Nude photo called "child porn"

I can't say this is the first time I have heard of something like this.

For my daughter's and my son's nine month portraits, we had pictures of them taken. I originally wanted them naked (the whole, perfectness of baby and all that) and we brought a wicker basket and some towels to strategically place and for them to play with so it would be totally cute. WELL...the darling folks at UNNAMED PORTRAIT STUDIO (The Picture People)...told me that we could not take photos of the children like that because it is considered pornography and someone may steal them and use them for their benefit.

I was dumbfounded...WHAT THE F***...first off, who in your studio is stealing photos? And second, how could something so darling be used in somebody's sick pornography ring? The idea never in an eternity would have crossed my mind (I guess that goes to show how sick people are). ANYWAY...we strapped a diaper on the kids and that was the end of that.

I still left with a sickening sense, they actually have a clause...I READ it, that says it is pornography and that under no circumstances are children allowed with no diaper and technically with no clothing (so all those cute pictures of naked babies are essentially illegal).

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If the pictures are a few years old, how and why are they still on his cell phone? If the wife's excuse about keeping them around to show at the kids wedding is true, then surely you would transfer them to a more persistent place, like actual paper, CD, home computer, something. Seeing it on a cell phone gives one the impression that they were taken recently.

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A few years ago the Picture People told me it was their policy not to take unclothed pics of babies over age one. They encouraged me to do it with my infant (maybe 8 months old then) because she was approaching the age where they couldn't do it anymore.

There are plenty of bare pics of my kids in this house, including of them "older than one year." I wouldn't put them on our family photo site on the internet for fear of weirdos, but in my home, on my person, whatever...

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My husband is Japanese, and we lived in Japan for many years, where family bathing is considered a normal part of life.

I emailed a photo of myself to a few friends and family in the U.S. -- in it, I was in the bath with all three of our kids, then aged 3 through 8. We were all naked, but no private parts were visible.

A family member of mine found the pictures disturbing, and said that while I probably meant no harm, many people would be offended by a nude adult bathing with three nude kids.

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Why did they check his camera phone in the first place?

And why are the questions you are asking relevant, Duane Morin? Surely, the point of a camera phone is to take pictures, and if you choose to do so, shouldn't it be entirely up to you to decide how and why you choose to do with the pictures as you please, whether it be deleting, transfering or keeping them there?

I guess I should count myself lucky not to have a mobile phone with a camera, since it's one worry less I'll have about my privacy being invaded.

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I have a friend who is an amateur photographer. She often uses her own children as practice subjects. We recently had this discussion, because she was seriously considering putting a darkroom into her house. You see, she took some pictures of her children in the bathtub (they're 3-ish and 5-ish). The bathtub was full of bubbles, and the kids were doing 'kid things' with the bubbles, making hats, beards, etc.

Well, she took the pictures to a major box-type store for developing, and when she went back to get them, she was informed that if they ever see pictures "like that" again, they would have to call authorities, because any pictures even *suggesting* nudity in children is considered pornography.

What a frightening world we live in when the most innocent pictures are considered evil, and the *actual* evil among us is allowed to walk free.

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Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

I wouldn't imagine having to think twice about taking pictures of my kids doing something cute. When they run around naked and we are trying to get them dressed it is FUNNY. When they are playing with mounds of bubbles in the tub it is CUTE!! Why must we be punished for the people out there who want to harm these innocent, cute kids!? I agree with the previous poster...along the lines of,
'What a frightening world we live in when the most innocent pictures are considered evil, and the *actual* evil among us is allowed to walk free.'

And I don't want to see one person type that they can be rehabilitated. NOT ONE. Rape, molestation and murder are among the top repeated crimes (meaning that they are not done just once, people don't it for kicks or on a whim, there is something inherently evil about the people who commit these crimes) that endanger the life and safety of all of us.

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This is so sad. And shocking. I almost wish I never read this because then I could just be in innocent ignorance. I also echo what LS said "What a frightening world we live in when the most innocent pictures are considered evil, and the *actual* evil among us is allowed to walk free."

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I had this discussion on another board, specifically, a board of volunteers who help local authorities catch pedophiles.

Nude baby pictures are by no means pornagraphy. I have them of myself, I have them of my daughter and niece.

Pornagraphy is INTENT. a nude baby photo of a kid in a tub, or face down on some fluffy white batting, has NO intent on being sexual, provocative, or in any way stimulating. On the other hand, child porn has very specific intent (which is how law enforcement can decipher whether it is child porn or just baby photos, as nowadays, i can't tell you how many innocent men are being accused of pedophilia, usually by an exwife, exlover, a coworker who wanted the promotion, etc). Child porn is made to be undeniably stimulating. Little girls, in revealing clothing and lingire, sucking on lolly pops, in very suggestive poses; same with boys. There is an absolute INTENT in the photos.

I've seen child porn before, in a few cases I've worked with. Pedophiles do not want average nude baby photos. They want something that is going to feed their sick libido even moreso.

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What about all those ads in baby magazines with all the little bare-bottomed babies? Are those porn too? That's just ridiculous.

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