Moby says he hopes his hypothetical children will be gay

I wonder why he doesn't just come out already?

Reply

Wow, Moby's comments are just so, bigoted. I can tell he hasn't met my father, my brother or my husband, which is too bad for Moby - he would be pleasently surprised.

Okay, yeah, they don't eat veggie burgers or drink tea though.

Reply

Fraternities aren't date rape clubs. I find that extremely insulting. Greek life may not have been for you, but with millions of people involved, I highly doubt it's been THAT bad for most people or else they wouldn't exist. My sorority has been nothing but a positive experience, and I have gained a ton from being Greek.

Reply

someone once asked me what I would do if our child turns out to be gay. I thought that was the strangest question, and answered "apologize to her for all the pink frilly things she had to wear as a baby, and hope she embraces the irony in it."

I could care less and wouldn't be any prouder of my kids is they are gay, straight or indifferent. it's time we get past the whole homosexual issue as a society and move on to far more important issues.

Reply

Personally, I'd like to think your child is less likely to date-rape people because YOU raised him right - not because he is straight. Also, enough with the fraternity/sorority stereotypes. Honestly, they actually instill values like loyalty, friendship, leadership and philanthropy. Many Greek organizations contribute to programs to better the communities around them. My sorority actually had four core philanthropies we worked for (including the Girl Scouts and Prevent Child Abuse America - very relevant to this blog). Sure, a few rotten apples may spoil the bunch, but don't judge us just because you've had bad experiences with those select few.

Reply

JD,I like your style.

Reply

for all of you offended by my frat comments, just remember I'm not talking about YOUR sorority, or the fraternity of the guy who pinned you. And I know they don't date rape sorority girls. They mostly treat them with respect. They date rape the high school girls who they invite to their parties. Oh, and goats.

Reply

Wow JD that was a great apology.

Reply

I'm glad you liked it.

Reply

Why don't you tell us where you're getting your fraternity facts? I'd like to see the documentation that all the members of fraternities are rapists. I would like to think that a respectable blog like this one doesn't just insult millions of people for no reason.

Reply

wait, this is a respectable blog? boy, they sure f*&^%ed up when they hired me.

Reply

Jen, I believe you and I were in the SAME sorority! And you are right, about the values/service opportunities and leadership positions that are available to Greeks.

Reply

I know JD can hold his own, but here ya go:

-When surveyed, fraternity men were much more likely than non-fraternity members to report that they believed that women enjoy physical roughness, secretly desire to be raped, and enjoy being forced into sex. (Boeringer, S.B. Associations of Rape- Supportive Attitudes with Fraternal and Athletic Participation. Violence Against Women, 1999.)

-Gang rapes on campus are most often perpetrated by men who participate in intensive male peer groups (such as fraternities (11%) or athletic teams (9%)) that foster rape supportive behaviors and attitudes. (Sexual Assault and Alcohol and Other Drug Use. The Higher Education Center for Alcohol and other Drug Prevention. U.S. Department of Education. June, 1998.)

Also, according to the FBI's campus watch report, Between 1984 and 1993, 93% of university-related rapes were committed by members of fraternities and more alleged rapes occured within the property lines of fraternity and sorority houses than in any other specific geographic area in the US (excluding military bases and prisons).


And Moby has always been a little wierd, but I like him anyway.

Reply

I knew there was a reason I always got the creeps walking past fraternities on campus.

Now pass the green tea and veggie burgers.

Reply

Dutch, come on. Stop the trolling already...

Oh, and you forgot that all sorority girls are drunk and easy.

:)

Reply

JD,
I am right there with you. Frat boys and sorority girls are about as pathetic and shallow as one can get. The fact that they constantly have to point out the supposed good that they do should show how little they truly care for others. It is all about appearances and forcing people to be friends with them. Sad, truly sad.

Reply

Go VL!

I think Moby's comments were a little obnoxious, but I am with ya, JD, on the frat boys. One fraternity here in FL just recently got caught hazing. They are now releasing info that when the police arrived the the frat house, they heard moaning and screaming coming from inside. When they entered, the boys being "initiated" were in diapers or naked and crawling on the floor. WTF is that about?

I have always despised frat boys. JMHO

Reply

If you think that straight fraternity men are so much more inclined to rape or sexually molest- then please explain Mark Foley and various Catholic priests to me. I could say the same thing about the priesthood that you are about the Greek system. I also know a lot of gay fraternity men, including my cousin who is one of the best people I know. Does that blow your entire theory? Jennifer - the only reason we have to keep pointing out that our actions are contrary to your beliefs is because of the closed-minded people who REFUSE to believe otherwise. When I went to college, I had those same ideals, but I found a house that suited me and those girls are some of my best friends (cliche, I know). I was able to change my mind, can you?

Reply