Get college credit for loading the dishwasher (but only if you're a girl)
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Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary in Fort Worth, Texas, is offering a B.A. degree in humanities with a concentration in homemaking. The course, which will include two years each of classical Greek and classical Latin, as well as courses in fashion design and budgeting, will be open only to women.
Evangelical Christians believe that the decline of the traditional family--a Dad who works, a Mom who cooks, and kids who behave--is the direct cause of many of America's social woes. Giving women the tools to be good homemakers, they argue, is a step in the right direction. The president of Southwestern Baptist argues that, "It is the basic unit to all social order ... It is a course of study whereby a woman can prepare herself intellectually and in her basic skills to be a better homemaker."
Hmmm.
I don't really know how I feel about this, honestly. On the one hand, I could totally use a class in How To Clean The Bathroom (seriously, the mold in the grout? is there some trick for getting that out?) and I could probably stand a couple of cooking classes. And yes, it would appear that Americans in general might need a refresher course on budgeting and responsible use of credit. But I'm uncomfortable with the idea that only women need to know these things. Don't men participate in the family economy? Is the rise in the divorce rate really the result of Daddy cooking dinner once in a while?
What do you think--are homemaking courses a step back in time? Or are there some valuable skills out there that we are losing? Should homemaking courses (and the material taught in them) be limited to women?
And how do I get the mold out of that grout?
Evangelical Christians believe that the decline of the traditional family--a Dad who works, a Mom who cooks, and kids who behave--is the direct cause of many of America's social woes. Giving women the tools to be good homemakers, they argue, is a step in the right direction. The president of Southwestern Baptist argues that, "It is the basic unit to all social order ... It is a course of study whereby a woman can prepare herself intellectually and in her basic skills to be a better homemaker."
Hmmm.
I don't really know how I feel about this, honestly. On the one hand, I could totally use a class in How To Clean The Bathroom (seriously, the mold in the grout? is there some trick for getting that out?) and I could probably stand a couple of cooking classes. And yes, it would appear that Americans in general might need a refresher course on budgeting and responsible use of credit. But I'm uncomfortable with the idea that only women need to know these things. Don't men participate in the family economy? Is the rise in the divorce rate really the result of Daddy cooking dinner once in a while?
What do you think--are homemaking courses a step back in time? Or are there some valuable skills out there that we are losing? Should homemaking courses (and the material taught in them) be limited to women?
And how do I get the mold out of that grout?












ReaderComments (Page 5 of 9)
9-03-2007 @ 7:07PM
Anne said...The idea of the class doesn't upset me as much as the "women only" idea of it. Taking care of the home is not a woman's job alone. My father raised me and my two half-sisters long before my stepmother stepped up to bat. The occassional cooking class (which I personally am in desperate need of, hence my fiance is a cook) and some cleaning and budgeting classes are valuable. Just open the course to men and it's all good. Also, I know the bible says that men and women have defined roles (to a point, not saying they're that way or no way) but I know plenty of men who plan on being "soccer dad" when they decide to have kids with their wives. I think we should train them too lest some poor child gets hurt.
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9-04-2007 @ 6:40AM
Niecee said...Home Economics is now called Family and Consumer Sciences. This field produces professionals from Day Care Owners to Marketing Executives to Fashion Designers. Want more information?
American Association of Family and Consumer Sciences
http://www.aafcs.org/index.html
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9-03-2007 @ 10:48PM
Candi said...Use Tilex to get the Mold out! AFter all it is made by the Clorox company - who better to know how to tackel germs, mold and mildew. Try Clorox Clean-up too - it cleans up everything (even the kool aid spills on the counter) just do not wear you best clothes while using it as it does have bleach in it.....
The class should be thought for both men and women... But let's face it some women do just want to have their "Mrs." degree and are perfectly content with that......
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9-03-2007 @ 7:12PM
JuneCleaver said..."If they want to help, then teach young men and women how to be equally responsible for the care and maintenance of their children and their home....... SBTS needs to get rid of their Patriarchal mentality, and open up classes to both men and women, and futher, teach men that their marriages would be far more successful if they would take an active role in child rearing and housework. "
Quoted because it's worth repeating. Joie for President!
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9-03-2007 @ 7:21PM
Tony said...Hate to burst anyone's bubble but compared to some things offered at my college this is at least useful. I mean holistic healing and aroma therapy may be great but for college? c'mon.
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9-03-2007 @ 7:57PM
Lori said...I too think this should be open to men, but at this college, I would guess that any man who did want to take this course would obviously be gay in the college's eyes and be kicked out, wouldn't he?
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9-03-2007 @ 9:57PM
Sharon said...Home Economics changed their name in the late 90's to Family and Consumer Sciences and there are over 200,000 middle and senior high school students taught in the classes in our state each year in the areas of consumer education/financial literacy, child development/parenting, food science and nutrition, Culinary arts, housing, interior design, career management/balance work and family, leadership development, community involvement and more. Who would not benefit from these classes. Teaching life skills is important to any person living in a home--and students can be members of Family, Career and Community Leaders of America...the unltimate leadership experience, a career and technical youth organization were over 200,000 students nation wide join each year!. This discipline and organization is important!
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9-03-2007 @ 7:37PM
Joseph DiMeco said...It would appear that these courses are very sexest and what about men who's wifes will expect them to balance a check book and figure out the taxes at the end of the year? What about men who will never marry who need to learn to cook, use a washer and dryer, shopping list, create a menu to cook his food from and cleaning the house or appaetment they live in or do you suggest a live in maide with that marrigae certificate and is there a 90 day guarrenty or else? what will it be it can not be both and you guys sound an awful like bobby jones university which is a organization that is trying very hard to diiolve the constition and the rights in the consitition and what kind of country will it be then a fife-dom with dictator at the head spuing out blatphomies I hope not!
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9-03-2007 @ 7:36PM
SKL said...I'm surprised that the idea persists that a job outside the home equals happiness for all women.
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9-03-2007 @ 7:41PM
Rae said...I personally totally agree with this degree being offered. And this college is definetly not the first to offer a degree of this sort. Lots of christian colleges out there offer degrees in Homemaking, Motherhood, etc... I am a college woman pursuing my music education degree at this point but I am totally in favor of a degree in homemaking. We need to get back to the basic roles of men and women as God created us. Women ARE supposed to be in a submissive role to men. Not walked on mind you, but we are created to be "under" them.
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9-03-2007 @ 7:49PM
pamela said..."home economics" is something that everyone needs to learn. Knowing how to cook, do laundry, clean, etc. are basic life skills and should be taught alongside the other basic life skills we teach our children (i.e. personal hygene, dental hygene, driving skills, etc., etc., etc.) These things help prepare us to take care of ourselves throughout life. There's no guarentee that we'll find someone to take care of those things for us, right? You never know when you might become the primary caretaker of a handicapped spouse like I have. I've depended alot on my 2 teenage SONS' help with their father, who's disabled. I esentially work 2 fulltime jobs--1 to earn a paycheck & the other taking care of him & the household. (To refer back to someone's comment about "Forrest Gump"--"Life is like a box of chocolates-you never know what you're gonna' get"--so it's best to be prepared.) And, no, this has not held either of my sons back. My oldest recently turned 19 & has had his own apartment with 2 friends across town for several months. He has his own job & I rarely see him. It's his time. My youngest, who will turn 17 this weekend has his own set of friends & school, etc.
I say "Kudos" to the moms who are able to stay home & raise the kids--I say "Kudos" to the ones who are going back to school to further their education. My one piece of advice to any of them is TAKE TIME TO TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF!!
I'd also like to know when the last time any of these "evangelists" said to their wives "I'll cook tonight" or I'll take care of the laundry this week" or "it's my turn to clean the bathroom/mop/sweep/vacuum"!!!
P.S.-The mold--TRY A LITTLE PREVENTITIVE MAINTENANCE!! Tak 2 minutes every other day to clean it INSTEAD of letting it build up!!!!!
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9-06-2007 @ 3:56PM
easytoenvy3 said...these people need to get real us woman came so far to get where we are today why would we go back to the dark ages when we did nougthing but had kids and cooked and cleaned this is totaly prehistoric im not a christin and i wouldn't even take this course if i was im sorry but baking pies and scurbing bathrooms don't pay bills plus you really can't depend on the husband's money because he might not make that much these people are so stuck in the dark ages and in marrieges today requier the husband and wife both to work this is a load of bull who wants to major in something that women spent years trying to end im sorry but im not suporting this
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9-03-2007 @ 8:01PM
Lori said...I was just wondering, if this degree is being offered at a Theological Seminary, how would women be able to take the courses? Since women are not allowed to be pastors, are they even allowed to attend this school?...and if so, why would they? Hmmmmm....
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9-03-2007 @ 9:32PM
Lynda said...I'm a christian women and as I have become more familiar with the bible, the questions about the roles of men and women have already been answered. Read proverbs chapter 31 if you are not clear. In response to some of the comments made. First of all Jesus also said that a Husband should love his wife just as christ loves the church. You know,sacrificing for others first, dying for others;so don't just give half of"wife submit to your husband thing OK? These things should be determined before the marriage. Yes, there is a difference in our families since women have entered the work force,other people are raising our children,any family with a double income who doesn't have family to care for their kids or simply choose to live materially already do that.Yes young adults don't have a clue as to how to manage a home. The schools are so busy preparing kids to pass standardized tests they don't make home ec or consumer ed a requirement. Anyone thinking that women are being discouraged to get an education is stepping back in time themselves. Yes, there are households (you never think it will be you) where a mom needs to work.Everyone needs to be more frugal. Look at the line at the fast food restaurants,anyone taking there own coffe and soda to work? We have became a world that always wants more and now.I think that this class should be for both men women.We all need to get back to the basics of need and not what the media is telling us what we need that are really only wants. How many people do you know that pay cash for everything with no credit cards. How many of you take dinner left overs for lunch? How many people know how to balance a checkbook without their computers? How many people plan their meals out before they go to the grocery store? How many people know how to plan a meal with all the proper nutrition and portions?Laundry donewrong can cost alot of extra money too. Let's not forget the old fashion thing called the iron! This should be open for both men and women.
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9-03-2007 @ 8:06PM
J henderson said...I believe that the person staying home (male or female), to care for the home and children, should be FINANCIALLY PROTECTED. In other words, giving up a career for 10 or so years duering the most productive years, cannot be retrieved.
A SIGNED CONTRACT of this intent is what I would advise. AND, because I have seen so much of "second wife" getting all. I see what could happen. it has not hpeened to me, but I have seen it SO MANY TIMES. (Christian or not)
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9-03-2007 @ 8:10PM
Luz said...I don't think a class it is going to safe our children, not until some people start taking responsibilities for those children they bring to this world. Paige Patterson, these responsibilities are not only for women, both parent have to work together.
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9-03-2007 @ 8:12PM
ebz said...Yeah this is knocking women back about 50-60 yrs.
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9-03-2007 @ 8:16PM
ebz said...No way that Rae is a woman......if you are....I'm so sad for you.....you're in college you say?
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9-03-2007 @ 8:33PM
dmoncus10 said...The only way to make progress in life is to allow God to lead you through it. Everything else is regression.
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9-03-2007 @ 8:42PM
D Howard said...Unfortunately this is not the only school to be offering such a class. Bob Jones University also offers it, just calls it something else. "The profession of home economics in the United States has changed its name. The new professional name is Family and Consumer Services. Our division at BJU is now listed as the Division of Family and Consumer Sciences in the University catalog."
While I agree that many people could benefit in some way from these courses, I deeply resent the fact that they are obviously directing this toward young women. I was raised in a private, Christian school which was run by BJU graduates and the teachers NEVER encouraged us girls to do anything other than be good little homemakers, completely submissive to our husbands and devoted to our "Christian duties". News flash...my husband became disabled and I have been the breadwinner for more than 18 years. Prepare your girls (and boys) for LIFE, not just a wife.
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