Nicole Richie: first comes baby, then comes marriage

I know this isn't the blog for it but I am really getting tired of people getting off Scott free for drinking and driving, with a slap on the hand. Don't people realize they could kill someone( the victims faces a harsher sentence death) as to people like Nicole walk away with no dents.

I understand she says she has learned her lesson great. I hope her karma doesn't come back to bite her but she'll never know the effects of her actions until she lose someone she loves to a drunk driver, the same said to any one else who gets behind a wheel intoxicated.

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Sandy, wait a minute, help me out . . . did you decide to spend your life with the father of your child the minute you found out you were pregnant? If not, isn't that the pot calling the kettle black? Not to pick on anyone in particular, but I see a lot of that on ParentDish. How can the writers so freely judge someone for doing something that you have rationalized as "the right thing" or "just human" or whatever when you did it?

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This isn't exactly 1950 anymore, I too am getting sick of people criticizing unmarried parents. I know plenty of unmarried parents that are a lot better than those that have been married for years.

Marriage doesn't mean you're a better parent than someone that isn't.

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Lime LIGHT.

Though the life of a lime might be worth avoiding too. I'm not sure.

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Clearly, people should look into the whole story before passing judgment. The reason Nicole only spent that abbreviated amount of time in prison was likely not because she was famous, but because she pled guilty and is not a violent offender. By their own admission, the county sheriff said that it is normal for this to happen because the prisons are so over crowded. This may not make it "right" and some may not see it as "justice" but currently, that is the state of the system there.

As for the married thing, while it may be true that for most, one comes before the other, that in no way indicated the quality parent, nor the "rightness" of the choice to be pregnant. Not getting married right away worked well for Jennie Garth and Peter Facinelli who said almost the exact same thing, they didn't want that to be the reason...they waited several years after the birth of daughter LucaBella and have been married ever since, and had 2 more girls...to each their own, no?

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This is directed at SKL:

You may not think very highly of some of the writers on this site, but you have been extremely critical of Sandy and made several hurtful comments to her in the last few days:

http://www.parentdish.com/2007/08/20/the-difference-between-discipline-and-abuse/

Above, you insinuate that her daughter would have "turned out better" if she would have hit her. In this comment, you are calling her a hypocrite for "judging someone" without the facts.

I am pretty sure acting like a troll to one of the writers who you do not know from adam disqualifies you from making any of these kinds of comments.

The majority of readers on this site welcome others opinions, even if they disagree. Maybe if you are not willing to do the same you should find a new site to read.

Lauren

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"And I am all for taking your time before committing a lifetime to someone, but it seems to me that ship sailed the day her pregnancy test came back positive."

The only person you commit a lifetime to upon falling pregnant is the child you're growing. There is no obligation, nor should there be, to commit to the sperm donor.

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Lauren, I couldn't agree with you more! Thank you for putting it so eloquently. To refer to SKL as a troll is more than appropriate.

And Anji....I just have to point out that I absolutely love how you say that we "FALL pregnant." As if it's akin to getting the flu....something we have no control over. A little ridiculous, no?

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Personally, I think married parents only really benefit the child if both parents are fully committed to each other. One person can't make a marriage/relationship work if the other isn't really interested in it. I learned that the hard way. But I was lucky enough to not have to worry about a small child overhearing some of the nasty things that were said by both of us towards the end. I wouldn't wish married parents who aren't equally into the marriage on any child.

Since it was an unnamed source credited, I'll take that with a grain of salt. Regardless of what Nicole chooses, I hope her choice will result in her becoming one of those celeb moms who enjoy their children and avoid becoming the next public trainwreck (like Britney).

(And "lime life" makes me think of that old Ebay commercial where the guy owns only lime things and buys some random thing on ebay because it was lime :P.)

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Lauren: SKL is a troll because she vehemently opposes the writers' choices? That is laughable! The word troll is applied on this site to anyone who has strong opinions who does not sugarcoat them. In order *not* to be a troll, SKL would have to begin every comment with "everyone should do what is best for her family..." Well, the fact is that not everyone believes that. I certainly don't. I believe there is a right and a wrong way to parent. Period. SKL questioned Sandy's reasoning. She did so without name-calling or cursing. Face it: She made an excellent point, albeit a rebuttable one. Instead of rebutting it, though, you resort to third-grade tactics of ostracizing the odd one out.

As for the writers who so so valiently defend: They are a fragile, fraught sort. One of them - with only one child - inexplicably can't find time for a shower. Another regurgitates his atheism incessantly. One whines endlessly about the fact that they had pimples as a teen. Some contribute only staid, ubiquitous celeberity blurbs. Honestly, this site would shut down if Britney actually got her act together. Another primarily posts hysterical fearmongering articles based on fluff science.

Now for the commentors: Many have banded together to battle those who are perceived "uncool." This is an understandable mechanism, as it's what you think you must do to maintain readership of your own blogs. Such is the mainstream blogging hierarchy.

Lacy: Since you ostensibly oppose judging, might I point out that Anji is perhaps British and the colloquial phrase for gestation is indeed "to fall pregnant." I acutally agree with your point, but I am afraid that it brands you a troll...

Now, call me a troll if you like. Please note that I do prefer 'troglodyte.'

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Preemptively: Yes, I'm aware that I'm welcome to find alternative online reading if I'm unhappy here. Please include more substance in your responses than that bland retort.

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Wow IT"S STARTING TO GET BITCHY ON THESE POST. I rather read the post then the blogs. EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO THEIR OPINION BUT LEAVE THE NAME CALLING OR TAKING STABS AT ONES FAMILY.
i HOPE NICOLE DOESN'T MARRY JOEL TO SOON BECAUSE HER RELATIONSHIP RECORDS AREN'T THAT GOOD SO TAKING HER TIME TO MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION IS COOL.

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I just think that if a writer starts out by publicly taking a jab at someone who never did anything to her (Nicole or whoever), she should not be immune to receiving jabs, particularly when she is guilty of the very act she is criticizing. I think people should think before they act. People should do unto others as they would like others to do unto them. They get paid to do this - and they can deal with the consequences if their readers react negatively. Lord knows I have to deal with the consequences of my postings, even though I'm not getting paid. This is even worse than a double standard. You put yourself and your kids out there for money (almost like Nicole S.), you open yourself up to whatever results. I'm surprised those feeling sorry for Sandy don't have the same sympathy for the Nicoles and Britneys of the world.

I also agree with many posters that the quality of the content on this site is rapidly going downhill and I've noticed the more intelligent posters of the past are showing up less and less frequently. The site probably will be shut down soon if this continues.

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Another thing. If they hired me to be a writer here (not that that would ever happen to a conservative), I am 100% sure that I would take a lot of shit from those of you so loudly criticizing my above post. And you wouldn't be nearly so diplomatic as I was. God knows it, I know it, and you know it.

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Oh GOOD! Let's bring God in on this.

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Lacy, if anyone here is a troll, you are.

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And "for the record," the article does not indicate that Nicole does not want a commitment - it indicates she is committed to both her child and the child's father, and she's already making grandiose wedding plans. So naturally readers take the writer's last paragraph to be a criticism of the fact that the child will be born to unwed parents.

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Sandy I agree they made a commitment that forever ties them together, I hope they don't just rush into marriage. Although I'm rooting for Bridget and Tom back together.

from the hermit with nothing better to do.

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Oh yeah!, Miss is back! Miss, I have missed you--so funny that someone mentions a troll....and suddenly you appear.

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