Was it really child endangerment in Illinois parking lot?
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In December, a Chicago area mother took her three daughters and their little friend to a Salvation Army kettle in front of a Wal-Mart to drop off money the girls had collected. On the way, the 2-year-old daughter fell asleep in her car seat.
Rather than wake her, Treffly Coyne parked in the fire lane, turned on her hazard lights, and locked the car with the slumbering toddler inside while she escorted the other girls to the bell ringer to make their deposit. She was 20 or 30 feet away from the vehicle and gone for just a few minutes.
When she returned to her vehicle, a community service officer told her she was under arrest, not for parking in the fire lane, but for child endangerment.
In response to a series of incidents involving people leaving children in hot cars, in June of 2002 a rebuttal presumption was added to the Illinois Child Endangerment statute stating that any person who leaves a child six years of age or younger, unattended in a motor vehicle for more than ten minutes has committed a Class A misdemeanor. The statute further defines "unattended" as either not accompanied by someone fourteen years or older, or if accompanied by someone older than fourteen years the child must be within sight of that person.
Coyne maintains she was within sight of her vehicle at all times. Bizarrely, while she was being arrested and transported to jail, the girls she had taken to the Salvation Army kettle were left alone in the parking lot and later found huddle on a bench inside Wal-Mart, too terrified by the police officers to ask for help.
Apparently it's okay to leave kids in parking lots, just not in locked cars?
The incident has sparked much interest on internet with some calling Coyne a horrible mother who deserves to lose her children and others wondering what is up with the police department. The case will go to circuit court on March 13th.
Thanks for the tip, Jen!
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Reader Comments (Page 2 of 4)
Tree 3-09-2008 @ 1:33PM
If you read the attached article, it says that the law says it is illegal to "take your eyes off a child under the age of 14". It says the officer arrested her because she was not looking at her child. Wow. All parents will be arrested at some point if that's the law. I should have been arrested by now.
It goes on to say that that means if you let your child walk to school w/out an adult, you are committing a crime. So a twelve year old can't walk to school with his friends, even if it's just a couple of blocks away.
I sincerely hope this woman is found not guilty. This law goes way too far.
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Elaine 3-10-2008 @ 12:34PM
This is a very sad case of the police being so far over the top as well as the person who called the police.
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Elaine 3-10-2008 @ 12:54PM
I can sympathize with this mother. The exact same thing happened to me in Ohio, except that my kids are 4 and 6.5. We'd played at a beautiful botanical gardens and we were all exhausted. Made a quick stop at the store. Came out, pulled out of the spot and a police officer waved me back into my parking space. He proceeded to tell me someone called 911, that it was illegal (which it's not, no law exists in Ohio) and told me three times that he may handcuff me and take me to jail of course in front of my children and left me crying hysterically in the parking lot. It was much more dangerous to leave me there in complete and utter shock, in the least, he should have requested an escort (police in this town of 5300 have nothing better to do, extremely low crime). Temps were 60's degrees, kids sitting quietly.
It's interesting because I am a NICU RN and although in this area, mom's can use cocaine while they are pregnant and the baby is SENT HOME with the drug user even if the baby tests POSITIVE for cocaine.
Yet, don't run into a store for a few minutes!! The prosecutor even admitted that if there was a case to dimiss, it would be this one, but he said he wouldn't dismiss any case. He promised to attempt to lock me in jail for 6 months if I didn't accept his plea deal. My husband and I had already attended foster parenting classes to adopt another child. We weren't looking for a 'perfect' child. We were willing to take a child with multiple medical needs if God placed him or her with us. With my extensive medical background, I felt qualified to care for such a child and I fell in love with preemies working with them. Fortunately the board of nursing did not take my license after I accepted a plea deal of disorderly conduct. 2 weeks after I accepted it, I came down with a life threatening infection caused by the stress and had to be treated with IM and oral antibiotics. This nearly killed me, all because some woman sitting in a parking lot had nothing better to do.
Of course, she could have spoken with me or yelled at me, or whatever, but, nope, she decided to ruin my life.
Of course no one in this area also puts bicycle helmets on their child and the police don't care. Not wearing a helmet while riding a bicycle is MUCH more dangerous than leaving 2 kids in a locked car on a cool day without the keys.
The case that someone referred to about the child who was dragged... the parent left the keys in the vehicle, easily ensuring that the perpetrator could hikack the vehicle.
We are moving to another state, I refuse to allow our tax dollars to support a community that treats it's citizens like this. If we wanted to get technical, any parent that circumsizes their male child should also be charged with child endangerment. In Ohio, many pediatricians also do not use analgesia, this is child abuse to the extreme! Severe complications can arise including sepsis and death and I've certainly seen my share of horribly botched circumcisions. So for all of those parents out there who think that they are perfect...think again!
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JEN 3-12-2008 @ 1:04PM
SORRY ELAINE, THE LAW DOES EXIST IN OHIO (I'M A BUCKEYE MYSELF). THE LAW IS CALLED CHILD ENDANGERMENT.
jen 3-12-2008 @ 1:24PM
Dang Elaine, I at first wanted to argue some points with you, but I have to agree with some also. It sounds like we live in the same town in Ohio. I understand your story...apparantly anything little town Ohio police don't agree with is called "child endangerment." They all think they are in Columbus or Cleveland. {But, I do have to say, my 4 boys are circumcized beautifylly (our docs do use anesthesia) and I'd rather deal with a little pain than the long term issues that can occur without curcumcisions (no, I'm not a doctor, but we did educate ourselves first).}
And to get back on track...police don't ALWAYS know what's best. People are WAY to nosy, but good luck finding a state that doesn't treat its citizens this way. It's gotten contagious.
p.s. my issue came when paying for gas at a tiny "outdoor" clerk gas station. Yep child endangerment.
Whatever.
Michelle 3-10-2008 @ 1:58PM
Elaine, I hate to break it to you, but if you went into the store and left your 4 and 6 yr old in the car alone, it was NOT the same thing as this case. You left your children in a car in a parking lot by themselves while you went into a store. You were not there within sight. She was at least in sight of her vehicle. You left them very vulnerable. I'm sorry if that pains you, but you are the one who entered into the long diatribe about how badly YOU were wronged.
Personally, I wouldn't have done even what this woman did.
Yes, I Pay-at-the-Pump, but I am less than a foot from my van at all times, if even that far. In all other instances, my 3 and 5 yr olds come with me, as inconvenient as it may be.
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Elaine 3-12-2008 @ 2:09PM
Michelle, I'm so happy that you are perfect. Congratulations!!! You must sleep with them at night too, since you know someone could break in and steal them, and you wouldn't want to 'endanger' them. Do your kids wear helmets then when riding a bike? It's statistically MORE dangerous not to wear a helmet when riding a bike.
I'd rather my kids not live in fear all of their lives. When my brother was 7, he was almost kidnapped while walking home from school. My parents could have FREAKED out and walked him to school everyday, but they didn't. And now he is a healthy, happy, well educated adult. I think they made the right choice and it was their choice to make, as he was THEIR child.
We all have different parenting styles, obviously, and you can stand on your soapbox and say, "I wouldn't do this or that." I'm sure there are MANY things that you do that I would definitely consider dangerous.
Jenn,
I wasn't saying all circs are bad and when we lived in CA, all of the pedi's used analgesia. It was in Toledo that they didn't and let the poor child scream until they turned purple and became unconscious from the shock. If your pedi used it then, I'm happy. It should be considered child abuse when they don't. I'm in central Ohio now, did they actually charge you?
Brenda 3-12-2008 @ 2:21PM
Michelle, I hate to break it to you but no matter if you are just right outside your car pumping gas or in the store paying for gas something could happen, so that's being quite hypocritical of you when you say you pay at the pump but you are only a foot away. Kids can lock the doors on you, your car could catch on fire, kids could lock you out and put the vehicle in reverse, drive, etc. even if the car is running or not. I know all these are probably unlikely to happen, but it could.
Gracie 3-12-2008 @ 8:35AM
This is injustice on Ms. Coyne's part. With the weather being as it was that day, cops would probably had said something to her if she had taken her child out of the car and exposed her to the inclement weather! And CPS, uh uh, they look for any and EVERY reason to add another case to their loads...as if the system isn't loaded enough as it is with REAL crimes against children. I wish Ms. Coyne good luck!
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Annie 3-12-2008 @ 8:29AM
This is another waste of taxpayer money. If it is proved she never left the car from her sight- drop the charges. But, please do discipline those officers that left behind two children.
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Experienced Mother of kids 13 thru 4 3-25-2008 @ 6:39PM
For one, the car was LOCKED! For two, the alarm was ACTIVATED! For three, she was right THERE-in viewing distance!! There hadn't even been enough time elapse, for the car's engine to cool down(so freezing to death-not an option)! As a married mother of five beautiful children (whom I have never even entrusted to a babysitter), I find this case rather disgusting!! As for those of you that say you never leave your kids out of your sight-Do you go down every slide with them at the park (literally!)? Do you sleep in their bedrooms ? I have heard of many cases of children being kidnapped right from their own beds at night. In my opinion, those that cannot see the "grey areas" with this case, either have never had children of their own, or are not very experienced as parents!! Just like it is very different to lie and tell an ugly person they are pretty, then to steal something and stand in denial. There are "grey areas" in all aspects of life!! Fine lines people-fine lines!!
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Missy 3-12-2008 @ 10:52AM
This whole story is ridiculous. I'll be praying for you, Treffly Coyne, your family needs you. Can't the authorities what this has done to this family. Many other parents have done much worse and I heard that the police couldn't get involved because there wasn't enough evidence. In my opinion that one child was safe when the alarm was on and the doors were locked and the mother not far away. But it was when the police stepped in that put all the children at risk. Her other children must have been terrified and probably still are. Now who can they trust? Hang in there, Treffly.
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Rob 3-12-2008 @ 10:43AM
The police officer involved should be have been charged and suspended for leaving the other children. It's amazing what government agencies will do to invade private citizens lives. Are police officers held accountable for "abandonment" while inside a diner or donut shop while they should be on their post patrolling? Jesse Lundsford may be alive if the police in her community had been doing their jobs. This woman deserves praise for encouraging her children to collect money and participate in community outreach. I wonder if there is a legal defense fund for this family, to help offset their legal costs?
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Al 3-12-2008 @ 11:07AM
This is just one more instance that illustrates the growing problem in the is country. We're becoming a nanny-state, people. It is completely absurd that this woman, who by all measures is an excellent mother, should be prosecuted for such in insignificant event. Most laws are written/enforced with good intentions, but the reality is much different. If risk is what we're trying to avoid with children, then why is it okay to take them to McDonald's??? They could get obese, which certainly increases their risks. Should we keep children inside all the time, so they're not exposed to smog?? Where does it end?? We just simply cannot eliminate all risks to children, and even if we could, would we want to???
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dadof5 3-13-2008 @ 10:08AM
Good Lord wake up people. As a kid i road in the back of pick-ups, had a pocket knife, given a rifle tu hunt with my grandpa, and on and on and on. All of which would have landed my parents in jail by todays legal garbage! Just a note since I work with troubled Kids, todays child welfare department is a buissness and make no mistake about it. They recieve monitary compensation for each child they are in custody of and even if you are in the foster system the state gets thier cut. A good portion of child endangerment laws were written by that department and it is out of control. Unfortunatly they instruct the police on what to look for and tell them just what a danger the parents are to the child. It all stems back to whos raising your children, The school system says they know best the welfare system says they do, just a thought how did we all survive before they came about? I home schooled my children and was labeled because of it, now that they are all sucessfull Im congradulated So at what point did I go from bad to good? I applaud this mother for teaching her children the value of being generous and going out of her way to do so. It would have been much easier to wait on the weather, traffic or just not go at all. But instead her children now look at cops as untrutworthy and cruel because they took away her mommy for being kind. Think this is an unfair assesment, I invite you to visit your local juvy hall and talk to the kids like I do, you might get an earfull you would have a hard time beliving on thier experiances with police and thier families. Not all police are bad and not all situations dont warant aggressive behavior on thier part. Dont get me wrong but some need far more common scence training before putting on that uniform. ps. I wore a badge for years
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Sandra 3-12-2008 @ 12:05PM
Definately, NOT child endagerment. I am a mom, and I 100% support this mother. This is outright ridiculous, and a waste of Il taxpayer's money. Hope all goes well for her, hang in there.
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Inflammateur 3-12-2008 @ 12:14PM
That overzealous police officer must be under some kind of pressure to meet a "quota" for arrests, like many of the traffic cops do. I hope I sit in the jury for the trial, and would acquit this poor lady in no time. And I would blast any jury member not agreeing with me for being idiot.
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Kimberly S. 3-12-2008 @ 12:35PM
This is insane. What has our justice system come to? Yes, while I think it might hae not been the best bet to leave the child alone in a car, this does not constitute abuse or neglect. I mean, for heaven's sake she was 20 ft from the car with other children giving charity! I am a social work student and I can tell you there are enough children in the system that should be focused on. There are already too many children taken away from their parents for accusations of neglect, etc... This woman I guarantee will never do something like this again. Yes, it was a mistake, but is anyone perfect? I mean, come on what parent hasn't made a simple mistake. and seriously, she thought she was doing a good thing. We need to spend our time and mony focusing on real abuse cases and not trashing some woman's name and life because she made a mistake. She appears to be a good mother and maybe just had her hands full for a total of 4 minutes.
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January24 3-12-2008 @ 12:45PM
Unbelievable. Another case of a stupid government functionary out of control. The risk to the baby was virtually non-existent. Has anyone stopped to consider whether the baby might've been struck by lightning if the mother had taken her out of the car? Or softball-sized hail? Where is common sense? They need to add IQ tests to the police academy application forms.
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Susan Enright 3-12-2008 @ 2:43PM
Our system is so crazy. Seems it does not help those that need it and only hurt those families that try to do the right thing. I wish this family the best and any other family that has to endure such craziness.
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