I can understand the disagreement on this issue. However, feel people are misinformed or non-educated about vaccines. Look at the current measles epidemic growing in AZ recently. There have been over 17 reported cases of children with measles. Those parents chose not to vaccinate and now a disease that was not prevalent is becoming widespread once again. Hopefully they will get it under control, in the end parents need to take into consideration the public responsibility they have when they choose not to vaccinate and also think of the health of their child in the long-term. The benefits of vaccines outweigh the risks. If vaccines were so "poisonous" and harmful why aren't more people dying, getting sick or diagnosed with other problems such as autism?

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Sorry, but do you know 100% that of the children who contracted measles were all those who did not vaccinate? Do you realize you can in fact get every single last one of the vaccinatable diseases even if you're vaccinated? They are *not* a 100% guarantee and that fact is listed in even the pro-vaccines literature.

And people ARE dying, getting sick and being diagnosed with everything under the sun including autism and to say that vaccines have nothing to do with that in every single case is just an uneducated hopeful assumption.

Do you really believe that the neurotoxins found in vaccines are actually harmless? In every child? Even when mixed with all the other neurotoxins and crap found in vaccines? And even when every child is biochemically and neurologically different from the other? Really? Do you believe that the only things that exist are the things published by government agencies or gov't funded organizations?

17 cases = widespread? Really? Since when did vaccines erradicate every single disease to the point of no one ever getting it?

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"If vaccines were so "poisonous" and harmful why aren't more people dying, getting sick or diagnosed with other problems such as autism?"

Uhhh... they ARE. Dying, getting sick and diagnosed with autism in increasing numbers. And the recent measles outbreaks are proof positive that vaccines aren't nearly as effective as people are brainwashed to think. The population is 98% vaccinated, yet outbreaks still occur. Don't blame my healthy kid for that. Blame a system that doesn't work.

But the point under discussion is whether disagreement over a health care issue is enough to break up a family. It ain't. But, a man who would accuse his wife that strongly when they simply disagree? He's probably emotionally abusive.

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Well, while it is necessary to recognize that simple minds might prefer a simple conclusion, a vaccine eradicated smallpox. Vaccines have nearly eradicated polio in most of the world, with periodic outbursts only where cultural norms have delayed universal vaccination.

As the current flu season shows, not all vaccines are equal.

So, if statistics show that your car seat reduces the risk of your child dying in a car crash, does that mean you don't bother to strap you child in? And if a study reports that there is some evidence that car seats may cause death in rare cases by interfering with infant breathing (and there is one that does), does that mean you don't strap your infant in?

For those worried about neurotoxins (presumably the mercury in thimersol) in one of the vaccines used in pediatric practices, check out the mercury levels that are found in breast milk.

Nothing wrong with concern about mercury levels. But, if you are going to worry, worry about important things, like the EPA policy on mercury emissions from power plants.

Not to mention the Chinese emissions....

George

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At 34 years of age, my hearing was damaged last year due to one vaccine. At the same time my infant was suffering from convulsions, high-pitched screaming, congestion, developmental delays, and "regression" in milestones (he stopped doing things that he was already doing) from just a few of his recommended vaccines. The extent of any neurological damage if any will not be evident until the school years (I already have one learning disabled child already and know that it may rear its ugly head later). My 14 yr. old suffered from vision damage after the Hep B vaccine too (one dose). Vaccines are not safe and the reported outbreaks currently occurring in California, Arizona, Wisconsin and Nigeria among the vaccinated is proof that they aren't 100% effective either. I would trade any one of those diseases for the nightmare my family has had to go through any day. For anyone to say that vaccines are safe is an ignorant fool that not only hasn't done their homework, but also hasn't talked to the tens of thousands that were hurt by them.

Denise - all I can say is Charlie was right about this one. You should have listened. Whether or not the vaccines hurt your children may not be evident until the school years (learning disabilities). Of course there are other things that vaccines are capable of too even months later according to countless studies all dismissed by our lovely government agencies - diabilities, bowel disease, allergies, etc. If only I listened to my Mom's intuition and refused them all.....Vaccines are a joke and the joke is on us.

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George, I'm sorry, but two wrongs don't make a right. The FDA and EPA told us Moms not to consume any mercury while pregnant and certainly do not give it to any babies either. There is a reason for that - bile is what removes mercury from the body and infants do not produce it until 6 mo. of age. There is still mercury in all of the "mercury free" vaccines too only the FDA doesn't require the drug manufacturers to list it as an ingredient if it is in "trace" amounts nor do they even test these vaccines to see how much trace is really in them. (According to researchers there is no way to remove it 100% because it binds with other agents in the manufacturing process). Well, according to these two government agencies' formula, just a "few shots" would exceed even their guidelines for my infant (again, though there is no safe amount for an infant under 6 mo). How many shots does the average child get these days? I'm sorry, but nobody knows just how much mercury will cause a child to develop Autism - and yes vaccines can trigger Autism according to a recent report from Japan. What about formaldehyde? The EPA is considering it a possible carcinogen too. It is in half of the vaccines on the market! Then, there are all of the other toxins - anti-freeze, aluminum, etc, etc, etc.

Now, if everyone was jumping off a bridge to their death, would you do it just because everyone else is? I know I wouldn't even if they told me it was o.k. Sorry, but I'll take the less traveled road on this one because I did my homework (after the damage was already done to my family).

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Mindy -

In case you were not aware - the majority of these diseases were eradicated BEFORE each vaccine came on the market. Don't believe me? Take a look at the CDC's reported statistics 1-5 years BEFORE each vaccine was introduced. That is my answer - that vaccines are a joke. FYI- many outbreaks have occurred among the vaccinated populations. Again, do your homework and supply facts. Don't just have blind faith like our beloved doctors. By the way.....can anyone tell me what happens to the brain's immune system during/after vaccination (yes, the brain has its own according to neurosurgeon Russell Blaylock)? Again, do your homework. With all of this technology there is no excuse for ignorance these days. So, I guess my families' injuries were solely due to greed (money).

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