Stores won't sell alcohol to parents with kids in tow

I work in a liquor store and I see parents come in all the time with their kids pointing out what they want mom and dad to buy.I just look at the parents like they are a piece of S**T. I also see parents come through drunk with their kids in the car ,they come in stoned and driving or my favorite is when they have their 6 year old with them in tow at 1 am to buy another bottle of E&J or heaven hill rot gut.

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Hello to All,

My thought are As new laws are passed they make it harder for us middle class hard working citizens and avoid the real problems and criminal acitivity or criminals. I grew up with drinking parents and they DID NOT encourage drinking in their kids. So to compare the good with the bad parents isn't right? Point simple: if a kid or person wants to drink he will find a way (and probably will not use their parents). When will society get it together and realize it is the individual not the laws that control behavior. I've known kids whose parents don't drink to be the biggest drunkards of all.

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some may think it's rediculous to refuse to sell to parents with children with them, but the company has a good idea, but the cashiers don't want to be responsible for making that determination so they simply refuse to sell to anyone with children in tow. put yourself in thier position.
would you want to be the clerk in a court room with a lawyer pointing at you saying "that's the cashier that sold the liqour to the person who gave it to a child"? in this sue happy country it's not impossible and you all know it. it's no different than a bar tender being told "you should have known he was too drunk to drive and you should have shut him off and not let him drive".

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They do that in the USA too.I was with my brother who bought booze and the lady at the gas station wouldn't sale it to him because I was with him and im 22 and don't drink!!
But she was ugly and frumpy and I think she was just being a c*** I had to go home get my ID so my drunkard brother could get his fix.Of course I have never been back to that station again will go out of my way to avoid it.I know she only worked for a couple of weeks and quit but oh well that what they get for only hiring ugly's

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I worked in a conveinent store for eight years and the reason the stores will have associates ask all customers for id is because their chain will have been caught selling to minors too many times and fined for this and the cost is passed on to customers. Retailer are trying to keep prices down and not get their liqour license revoked. Also officials will try to entrap associate employees into selling to minors with disguises and if you get caught selling to a minor it can turn your life upside down for years it happened to a friend of mine, he sold to a regular customer that another asociate had sold beer to, he thought it was safe,he got busted,

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Speaking from the cashier's point of view, if we sell to someone who is underage we, and the store, get fined and sent to jail. If a person looks young I card them. If there are minors with them and they don't have other groceries I card them, and refuse to sell to them if either of them are minors. You're right it is a liability issue, but I won't go to jail just because someone might get angry at being carded or refused to be sold to.

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David Paz:
My heart goes out to you concerning your loss. However in studies conducted without MADDS corrupt influence most "alcohol related" accidents occured with a driver that had a BAC of .12 or more! It's ridiculous to punish someone for driving with .09 in there systems to the extent of how they are punished now. I said in my post that drunk driving IS wrong and I'm sorrry for your loss but todays DUI laws are WRONG and they target the WRONG PEOPLE !!!! It's one thing to arrest a driver that is TRULY DRUNK and a threat to other drivers and quite another to stop someone in a "road side safety check" and flagrenrtly violate their rights against unlawful search,legal counsel and seizure and self-incrimination,and to put them through legal and financial hell just because they had the POTENTIAL to do harm . That's as silly as just arresting ANYONE who gets behind the wheel. There are far more auto fatalities due to STUPID INCONSIDERATE DRIVERS yet they don't give an IQ test or a courtesy screening before issuing a license! I suggest YOU go to the websights I posted and read what I am talking about before you acuse me of being "so off base". I do, however understand how you feel. I have a friend that was killed with a baseball bat...that doesn't mean that all baseball bats should be regulated...again I AM sorry for your loss but I remain opposed to the DUI laws in their present form. You are right that people shouldn't drive drunk,I agree DRUNK DRIVERS should be punished not everybody who has a couple of beers and drives. Laws of this nature are an overreaction!!!

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Francisco, just because someone enjoys, say, a margarita, or a glass of wine with their meal doesn't make them a drunk.

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I worked in a conveint store for 8 years and the authorites can entrap employees by using deguises and wait outside for the sale to be final then arrest the employee because they did not ask for id i've seen it happen also a friend of mine sold to a regular customer that another employee had sold to cops outside knew cus was not of age and arrested my friend and his life was hell for about three years he was fired and could not get another job doing same thing. these store chains get fined big buck and have to pass cost onto customers and could possibly lose liqour license. It all comes down to the almighty buck for the retailers but the employees can suffer the most along with the general public if these sales go through.

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Tesco is attempting To gain a foothold here in Southern California, but has only opened a few stoes as yet...far fewer than they had projected. This policy is going to cause them grief beyond that which they are experiencing now, due to the sh***y economy. People will simply go to a different store to puchase their alcohol, as well as the other items on their list. The limey's are in for a tough time if they intend to compete with Stater Bro's, ect...

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The problem is selling alcohol in the grocery store in the first place. If they are going to instigate that rule they ought to sell only in Liquor stores. Grocery stores are for families to shop together in.

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Let' say hypothetically that it could be statistically proven that Irish men between the ages of 20 and 45 were more likely to be in an accident then any other ethnic group. If they set up roadblocks and indiscriminately arrested every Irish male between 20 and 45 and charged them with driving while Irish there would be an uproar! Todays DUI laws are just as absurd! read the TRUE FACTS:
www.duiblog.com
www.duigulog.com
www.damm-madd.com
America did just fine for decades with a BAC of .15 being the legal limit. Todays DUI laws are overreactive ,unneccessary,and amount to no more than moral policing. They have proven to NOT DECREASE FATALITIES but they have generated lots of revenue for dysfunctional corrupt municipalities ,attorneys.insurance compamies and the prison system.

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Most kids are smart enough not to ask a parent to buy them booze in a store. They ask someone older to do it for them (like a sibling or friend).
I never had a problem purchasing alcohol in the UK and Ireland and I look young when I'm dressed casual with little make up on, and never once was I asked for proof of age.
Plenty of teenagers and those just barely old enough to buy often were seen sometimes outside off licenses (stores that sell only alcohol). I was never accosted to purchase for a minor - maybe they were scared off by the fact my 6ft 4in male best friend was with me!

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Well I am all for DUI laws. If you drive while intoxicated, you are putting other innocent people's lives at risk, just for your stupidity. If you choose to drive while intoxicated on ANY substance, you should loose the priveledge to drive.

I am, however, against random road blocks. I think the driver should have to give some suspcion that they are intoxicated to be pulled over. I'm OK with the .08 limit. I don't drive, even after 1 drink. I definitely can feel the effects of 1 drink, and I'm not going to risk it.

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David,
I can virtually guaramtee you that the "drunk drivers " you refer to had a BAC of OVER.15!!!!

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Wow...."Leave your kids at home, or don't put the alcohol in the cart", huh? I tell you what, You keep it all. I'd have left my entire intended purchase right there at the register. Let that happen a few, 20 -30 times, and see if they can come up with a better plan...

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Mike, I think your beef is about the levels that you can be arrested at. I am sorry I can't totally agree with you on that. But you do make a couple of valid points.But Alcohol does affects every one differently. I know a couple of friends that have one or two drinks and they are stupid. I am sure we all have a friend or acquaintance like that. I agree the .08 limit might not be a correct level to give a drunk driving charge - for everyone. until I took a driving class I didn't know that that you can be arrested at .05 - .07 that is charge DRIVING WHILE ABILITY IMPAIRED BY ALCOHOL DWA. But how do you balance that with all the people that do get sloshed and drive drunk at .08. Yes the government has instituted some draconian measures to deal with people who insist on driving drunk. I think it had no choice though. People still don't get it. I like my beer, we are adults who need to take responsibility. I know when I am going to certain parties or events I more than likely will drink where I would be over the legal limit. I take a cab or get someone to drive me there and pick me up. I do this because I aware of the criminal and vehicular penalties if I get caught. So I can't say the law did not work, and make me not even take a chance driving. But way too many people don’t and they are killing people.

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How Silly is this! I never even heard of a parent who buys alcolhol for their underage children. Hopefully this liquor store will go out of business, giving more business to the stores with more reasonable rules.

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