Jon and Kate - Are they good enough parents for TV?
Filed under: Behaving Badly, That's Entertainment, Sex
I'm not especially into watching Jon and Kate plus Eight, the show that chronicles the parenting adventures of a couple with twins and sextuplets, but my wife likes to catch it. I've never been a big fan of Kate, the wife and mother; I feel that she is too obsessive and doesn't treat Jon, her husband particularly well. If you've never seen the show, there are a whole lot of clips available for viewing online.I find it difficult to comprehend how she can deprive her kids of the joy of coloring with markers or eating ice cream or, heck, all the myriad ways kids can have fun getting dirty, simply because she likes things clean. In fact, it seems like her kids are missing out on a lot because of her obsessive nature. My kids regularly come home from school or summer camp looking like they've been allergic to soap and water their whole lives. It's one way to tell they've had a whole mess of fun.
I can certainly understand phobias and fetishes; I know I have my fair share. The problem is, she's a parent now. She can't afford the luxury of having to have everything clean and tidy -- the kids' happiness and nurturing takes precedence. She needs to put her problems on the back burner and let her kids take center stage now. In twenty years or so, when the kids leave home, she can go back to being obsessive and dysfunctional.
Well, it seems I'm not alone in my distaste for Kate. In fact, one woman feels even more strongly about it and isn't afraid to say so. She has even suggested that perhaps the show should be cancelled, at least until Kate gets some help with "her multitude of issues."
Her reason -- Kate's incessant berating and belittling of Jon. Is he an abused husband? I'm not exactly sure, but he's certainly not treated all that well. The author, Tammy G, cites an incident at Toys R Us as an example. Kate hollers at Jon across the store and he ends up leaving in embarrassment. I'm not sure I would stand for such treatment either.
I know that Kate's physical abuse of Jon is not something I would stand for; I'm afraid that if my wife slapped me the way that and as often as Kate slaps Jon, someone would end up getting hurt. Not only is physical violence unnecessary and inappropriate, it sets a very bad example for the kids. And as if that weren't enough, when asked about the slapping, Kate actually blamed Jon for it.
Tammy G suggests that Jon and Kate are not good role models and offers up the Duggars instead. It seems to me, however, that not everything on television needs to be an example of how we should be; sometimes television can shows us how not to be. Perhaps that is the lesson we can learn from Jon and Kate -- how not to treat a spouse and kids.
| Absolutely not, she's too uptight. | |
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| Sure, she's honest about her issues. | |
| It's too hard to tell from a TV show. |












ReaderComments (Page 5 of 232)
7-31-2008 @ 10:39AM
nicole said...I think Jon and Kate are GREAT parents and I don't think their kids are missing out on anything!! They seem to be very loved and happy children. This is just another article trying to bash someone. As for the not eating ice cream we have enough obese children in America. What is wrong with a parent trying to lay the foundation for healthy eating at a young age??? They have their kids best interests in mind unlike a lot of parents. Sorry they dont want to take the easy road and let their kids rool around in mud and rot their teeth out of the heads!!! You cant win, either you make a fool of yourself and it is all over the news or you try to be a respectable parent like jon and kate and not raise a "britney spears" and you get called a shrew. @@ the media needs to get a life!!
7-31-2008 @ 8:14AM
Christie said...I love Jon & Kate + 8. I think that she does better than most people. One has to be totally organized too keep that household running!
They made a choice to let us into their world, so they would have all this video when their kids are grown.
With literally hundreds of channels available to watch these days, if you don't like their show, watch something else.
I love the Duggars and Little People, Big World too.
7-31-2008 @ 8:24AM
Sue said...I too think some people are reading too much into Kate's slapping Jon, as everyone can see, she is being playful, she is a good mother too, if someone does not try to keep some kind of order in a house full of 10 people, it would be utter chaos. I love the show and watch it everytime it is on.
7-31-2008 @ 8:10AM
Nicole said...I would rather be like Jon and Kate than the Duggars anyday!!
7-31-2008 @ 8:10AM
sherryll said...Do you have 8 kids? are 6 of them 4 years old? I have one four year old son and and three daughters and trust me i wiss my house looked as good as Kates. And it does not matter if they get dirty or eat ice cream they are happy kids. very happy you can see it on their faces. So mind your manners and if you have nothing nice to say keep your mouth SHUT!!!!
7-31-2008 @ 8:18AM
maggie said...Well leave it to the male of the species to critique the mother of eight! Can anyone imagine the stress of having six two year olds?Or better yet six sixteen year olds....all wanting to learn to drive a car while going thru puberty????
I marvel at her ability just to put food upon the table.After viewing episodes(Disney & ski trip) this question came to mind...."If something were to happen to Kate,would Jon be able to handle the eight children????"
Both compliment each other as Jon is laid back & Kate is efficient & organized.
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In the meantime Kate does a fantastic job ....Congratulations!!
7-31-2008 @ 8:21AM
beth said...I was so glad to read this article. I have watched the show like 4 times and had to stop watching because of Kate. She is an awful wife, and although I would not call her a bad parent, I would also not hold her up as an example to others, she is way to uptight.
But the thing with the husband was the biggest thing for me, I felt embarassed for him, she treats him like crap. I don't mind that it is on TV, I just cannot watch it because of her.
7-31-2008 @ 8:18AM
tmarks said...Like anything else, it is a form of television entertainment. This couple has 8 children for heaven sake and it is managed much better than households with 1 or 2 children. Please keep in mind that the show's producers CHOOSE what sections of their hours of taling that they will air. Personally, I am not particularly fond of the language and content on Jerry Springer, South Park, etc.... but I also have the option to change the channel. THat is the wonderful part of it all..... freedom to choose. So, I suggest that if they you don't like the show, perhaps you can fidn the Duggars or something else on another channel. As for me, I will continue to watch, enjoy and laugh when I watch Jon & Kate plus 8.
7-31-2008 @ 8:17AM
Amy said...Role model? Absolutely. Nobody's perfect, and I find their parenting style and occasional bickering closer to real life than anything else that's on TV. I have three kids and it can be difficult at times, I can't even fathom 8, including the sextuplets. Things will calm down as they get older, but one toddler is enough to wreak havoc, let alone 6. Give Kate a break. And Jon too.
7-31-2008 @ 8:23AM
skcole6785 said...I absolutely love this show. My husband and I watch it all the time. I wonder how many kids the author of this article has. I can see having 8 kids and get frustrating and she has to have some kind of order in the house or it would be complete chaos. If she let them all run around and do as they please as it seems you do for your kids then her house would be a complete mess and upside down. When I was growing up we stayed clean and still had tons of fun! As for the Jon issue if you remember correctly when the episode aired from the toys r us fiasco he even said that it hurts him when she does that because people portray her badly and that he knows thats not how she really is and she made the comment that she doesnt even pay attention to the people who are around. And another thing it is t.v., how many hours do you think TLC films? I'm sure it's a lot and they can't air EVERYTHING they film do you really think they are going to air a show that the family is "perfect" all the time, no, because there wouldnt be anyone wanting to watch it, they are going to show what they think willl make good t.v.....drama sells my friend.
7-31-2008 @ 8:21AM
treebee123 said...I love the show too but one thing does bother me. I get frustrated at not seeing Kate and Jon but especially Kate not just sit on the floor and hug and kiss and touch her kids. Roll on the floor with them. Tickle them. She is always being busy cooking or doing laundry. Infact when she has a helper come over, the helper should do the laundry and Kate should be on the floor playing with her kids.
7-31-2008 @ 9:17AM
Tammy C said...We all have our views,and beliefs that's why reality tv is. No matter how much kate drives me crazy with her "ways" she loves her kids and her spouse. I cann honestly say that if I was in her shoes I don't know if I could keep it all together either.
7-31-2008 @ 9:25AM
Daniele said...I think that Kate is an awesome mom and that they both play and pick with each other. I think that people have to read to negative into everything so they can push someone down. I would love to see the guy who wrote that to try and tackle 8 kids. You have to have order and control for everything to work properly. In almost every episodes they are coloring, eating ice cream or some kind of yummy snack and having fun. Yes sometimes she is a little over the top but every parent has their quarks and no one is perfect!!!
7-31-2008 @ 8:29AM
Mak said...Soory, but you REALLY missed the mark on this one. Once again, others just are not in a position to judge what those of us with multiples deal with. I have TWO SETS OF TWINS! WE HAVE TO BE ORGANIZED, and that includes remaining in control. Kate is role model of remaining in control under incredible stress and hardship FAR beyond your comprehension.
That being said..I absolutley agree that Kate treats her husband badly.
7-31-2008 @ 10:47AM
Jen said...I watch the show, but sometimes I compare watching it to the same way you are fascinated by a train wreck. I only have 4 kids and I applaud anyone who can manage 8 kids, especially with 6 of them the same age. I fully agree that you could do it only with a pretty strict schedule and routine. I do think that their kids are super important to them, the main focus in their lives.
BUT, I also think Kate is a HUGE control freak. She admits it herself. And Jon is so laid back. I do think lots of times she snaps at him out of frustration, in a crazy out of control time. That I can understand. When my husband and I have all 4 kids out somewhere, sometimes the chaos quickly takes both of us to the point of snapping. But, when she talks to him and about him in the interview chair, it is not frustration. She is often mean and condesending there. I do not like how she treats him at times like that.
But, it is their life. They choose to show it on TV, good, bad, and ugly. My three suggestions are: 1. Get the kids a set or two of play clothes. Ones that Kate is told specifically not to worry about getting the stains out of. Put those on them when they are gonna play in mud puddles or use finger paints. Even I was disturbed by how hard it was for her to take the girls to paint pottery. But, she did see how much fun it was. 2. I hope they are only showing mostly the bad side of Mady. If not, they need to find a way to help her control her outbursts and temper tantrums or they will regret it later. 3. Don't take all 8 kids to a furniture store. I learned early on when I only had 3. Even if it is to buy stuff for them, they will be bored quickly and all over the place in no time at all.
7-31-2008 @ 8:36AM
Pat said...I love the show and the kids. I think they are wonderful parents. They expect their kids to be well behaved and it shows. To have 8 young children and have time for all of them as well as all the household chores takes team work and I think they do a great job of working together. They do not let their kids run the house as happens all too often today. They do not NEED ENGLISH NANNIES to come to their homes to teach them how to control their children or save them from destructive, out of control kids. They're teaching their kids good values & how to be a loving family. Give credit where it's due and stop trying to find fault because they're a strong family. Yes, Kate does need to loosen up a little with the cleanliness but she also needs some credit for being an excellent parent as does Jon. They are a beautiful and fun family.
7-31-2008 @ 9:22AM
NANANASON2 said...I watch it for the first time the past weekend,and I'am sorry to say but the women has no clue.She need to learn how to be a wife. I've been married for 28 years,and I have never spoken to my husband or treated him like she does.NO I dont have 8 kids,but thats no excues,stress should not control your behavior.We all have stress in our lives.I have 12 people living in my three bedroom house, we struggle ever day just keep food on the table. And at no time do I treat my husband like that. Or my kids or my 5 grandchildern which ages run from 4 to 13 .They all live here .I 'm sorry but i think she is mean &abusive those kids are going to need lots of therpy when the grow up,Imagien never getting dirty as a child. MY one grandson is autistic and he would scream for hours if he got durty I finaly got him where he;ll go out side and play in the durt .You;ve have ti exspose kid to the world in orded to servive.
7-31-2008 @ 8:39AM
mldc said...I think Jon and Kate are great role models. I can't imagine the stress of eight little one's. I am also a big fan of the Dugger's but let's be honest, the older kids in that family do alot for the younger kids. Is that really fair to the siblings?
7-31-2008 @ 8:45AM
Marianne said...I think Kate and Jon are wonderful parents, and really love each other a lot. I don't know how they do what they do. I agree that Kate is very obsessive, and always thinks she is right, and Jon is wrong, and constantly complains about everything. However, it must be a tremendous job, 24/7, having that many little ones in the house. Most people who have large families, have one at a time. Much easier. I can see she adores those kids, and adores her husband, but gets so frustrated, she lashes out at Jon. But you also see them hugging and kissing. She wants her house to sparkle, and her children to sparkle, and that's the only fault I see. They are not allowed to get dirty, and that's a shame, and she talks a lot about spots on their clothing and all the time it takes her to get the spots out. They ought to have "play clothes" for that reason. No, please keep the show on, as I LOVE IT. But someone, tell Kate to not always be "so right", and to treat Jon nicer, but otherwise, I love her and Jon. Mady needs more alone time with them.......she is so frustrated with all those little ones.
7-31-2008 @ 8:39AM
Becca said...I think that many mothers are just as protective as Kate. Usually one does not have a camera in their home to show an audience all of the flaws that come with being a human. Kate is doing what she thinks is best, sure she can be a little obsessive, but aren't we all at times?