LaceButterfly, No one is forcing anyone to read this book. The librarian is only trying to prevent anyone from forcing someone to NOT read the book. If you don't want to read it don't, if you don't want your children to read it, then keep track of them and don't let them read it. If you have children, it's your responsibility to make sure they read only what you want them to read not the library's. Their responsibility is to offer as wide a variety of books as possible, so that we all have a choice in what we read.

There are plenty of books that promote the Heterosexual-Christian life style, there are plenty of books that promote the radical Christian belief system, and I'm sure that library has them available to any who wish to read them.

No one is trying to force you to do anything, however YOU are trying to force people to do what you want them to do. In this case, you are trying to force a librarian to remove a book and you are trying to force all children NOT to be able to read it.

I find it interesting that when people call for equality and tolerance people like you want to whine and complain that you are being discriminated against because your "right" to treat people with intolerance and bigotry is being pushed aside.

Lacebutterfly, No one is forcing anyone to read this book. The librarian is only trying to prevent anyone from forcing someone to NOT read the book. If you don't want to read it don't, if you don't want your children to read it, then keep track of them and don't let them read it. If you have children, it's your responsibility to make sure they read only what you want them to read not the library's. Their responsibility is to offer as wide a variety of books as possible, so that we all have a choice in what we read.

There are plenty of books that promote the Heterosexual-Christian life style, there are plenty of books that promote the radical Christian belief system, and I'm sure that library has them available to any who wish to read them.

No one is trying to force you to do anything, however you are trying to force people to do what you want them to do. In this case, you are trying to force a librarian to remove a book and you are trying to force all children NOT to be able to read it.

I find it interesting that when people call for equality and tolerance people like you want to whine and complain that you are being discriminated against because your "right" to treat people with intolerance and bigotry is being pushed aside.

Forcefed?

Who's reading these books? I know I never check a book out of the library without flipping through it first to make sure it doesn't contain anything I consider objectionable. How stupid do you have to be not even to do that?

Take your oh-so-righteous indignation elsewhere and trade it in for some sense, thanks.

Costa Piperakis: How do you feel about telling children that there's some supreme being in the sky who condemns you to eternal suffering when you masturbate? Or better yet, indoctrinating children as christians before they can speak? Morality predated christianity. So did homosexuals, get over it.

By the way the article makes a great point about other "illegal" acts in children’s books such as theft, violence, and murder - shouldn't we ban these books as well? Unless I’m mistaken, a few people are murdered in the Harry Potter books, granted by magical spells in a fictitious world. But in this Uncle Bobby book, two males are getting married, granted they're actually guinea pigs in a fictitious world - isn't that different? (satirical tone)

Actually, pbhj, they don't consistently tell us that murder and incest are bad things.

Weird how that happens, actually. Even if we take out all the murders that God committed as being "special circumstances" - 2 Kings 2:23-24 springs to mind, as does Psalms 137:8-9 - at good three or four people - Moses, Noah, and Abraham - admit to getting away with incest.

And lots of people commit murder and are totally not condemned for it, not in the Bible anyway. Maybe the writers of the Bible just forgot to include the part where God punished them...?

Uly,

For a second there, while reading your post I thought I was reading the wrightings of Vladimir Lenin, circa pre Bolshevik Red Revolution, when he & Trotsky were successfully inculcating the revolutionaries with the frenzied hatred toward Christians necessary to eventually result in 48 million execution style deaths in the former Soviet Socialist Republic.

Lenin shared the same mindset with you regarding Christianity & the Bible, thinking the Bible was a book full of hatred, murder & hypocritical illegal acts.

But that is the result of the observations of those who do not understand what they are speaking evil of. Lenin was a miserable man full of bitterness toward God, the Bible & His followers, & used his misguided beliefs to slaughter untold millions of Christians & political dissidents. He died of syphilis due to his desire to have sex with anything with two legs & slap God in the face in the process. If he was mistaken about his poor judgment, he is also suffering the eternal penalty of his actions.

Of course, all he was doing was fulfilling Bible prophecy, which stipulated that the spirit of anti-Christ would be prevalent as time marched on en-route to the Day of Judgment, which would result in the hatred & slaughter of believers.

He, like so many other like minded individuals, Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot (Godless Socialists all), put himself & the human race on equal terms with God, pointing out many of the same Scripture references as you & interpreting them to mean that because God carried out punitive signature judgments against murderous & wicked people, He Himself was guilty of murder & didn’t have the right to make such judgments. Lenin, like you, sympathized with people who murdered, stole, raped, sodomized, assaulted & committed a host of other violations against His Word designed to protect mankind then he did God Himself, & just as long as their name wasn’t God.

Would you justify Lenin & Stalin for their actins more than you would God? Or neither? You would be amazed, or maybe you wouldn’t, at how many people, even in this country, think Christians deserve to be put to death because they think God is a bigoted murderer who wants to deny people their rights to commit whatever acts they want, which in their minds make Christians guilty by association.

And of course, there is the equally misinformed Vicky Porter who agrees with you wholeheartedly & views the Bible as a more dangerous book than those which portray homosexuality & other deviant behaviors as normal.

Your animosity toward God is a form of spiritual suicide, with its ultimate end coming in the life to come rather than this one. The convenient aspect of that for you is that in the mean time you can pretend there is no “life to come,” & if there is, you won’t be disqualified from it. You are harming yourself more than God. God is going to be around long after you have been weighed in the balances for your actions.

For someone as witty as you, I am not sure you recognize that there is obviously a distinction acknowledged in the Bible between the various covenants that I am wondering whether or not you have understood, or whether or not you have arrived at your erroneous conclusions to justify your own lifestyle & beliefs.

Same family marriage, as you so readily pointed out, was legal in the Old Covenant. So were having multiple wives. And Israel was mandated at times to carry out punitive judgment at the direction of God Himself against evil men.

In the New Covenant, mercy for sin rather than punitive judgment in this life is emphasized, which is intended to give people a chance to repent & change before this dispensation ends & punitive judgment is carried out against the non-repentant & those who hate God in the life to come.

This is where you can not comprehend God’s love & are mistaking it for being bigotry & hatred. God’s love is illustrated in the provision of forgiveness for sin & the ability (not guarantee) to overcome it through the “new birth”, whereas your definition of love is to think that everyone should be allowed to do whatever they want without feeling bad about it or hearing anyone else say that it is wrong.

The very fact that you confuse God’s judgment with murder & God’s love with hatred & bigotry indicates that you think yourself on equal terms with God, which is why you question & don’t understand His Word. You confuse love & mercy with hatred & bigotry & do not understand the differences between the Covenants.

It is also simply that you don’t want to comply with His Law, & that you love your sin which is more the primary reason for your animosity toward or denial of your Creator, His Commandments, & those who have chosen to follow Him.

With all of your knowledge of Scripture, you must remember the text which reads, “Vengeance is Mine, says the Lord, I will repay.” In other words, in the New Covenant, only He is allowed to punitively judge men & does not ask the Church to carry out capital punishment like He did the nation of Israel in the Old Covenant. That is distinguished from civil law, however, which can carry out capital punishment against certain crimes.

In addition, marriage to multiple wives was replaced with monogamy to illustrate the level of faithfulness & commitment representative of Christ & the Church, while marriage within families was later made illegal to illustrate different levels of family relationships in order to set parameters & protocols of faithfulness to various kinds of relationships & dispel confusion between carnal lust & unconditional love.

There are obviously a lot of things you are unaware of regarding the people who were judged punitively in the Old Covenant Scriptures, & their actions which merited capital punishment. For you to think that God is a murderer & not understand the difference between murder & God’s judgment for capitol crimes is really quite bizarre.

By the way, the sixth commandment in the original Hebrew text actually reads “you shall not murder,” rather than “you shall not kill.” God can do as he chooses, but we can’t.

Winston