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Filed under: Big Kids, Gay Parenting, That's Entertainment, Religion & Spirituality
Colorado librarian James LaRue has gotten another challenge to Uncle Bobby's Wedding, the book about a little girl guinea pig's concerns that her uncle won't play with her after he gets married. The idea is simple enough -- Young Chloe loves her uncle but worries that after he gets married, he won't have time to play with her any more. None of that is why parents are getting up set about the book.The "problem" with the book is that it just so happens that Uncle Bobby is marrying his boyfriend Jamie. It's not really relevant to the plot, nor, as I understand it, is it gone into in detail, it's just sort of a part of the background of the story. Big deal. Apparently, to some, it is a big deal and that is cause to want the book removed from the library shelves. After the first challenge, LaRue wrote an intelligent, sensitive response that explained why, in spite of (or even perhaps because of) the reasons for the challenge, the book would remain on the shelves.
Well now a second challenge has come along, this time asking that the book be removed because gay marriage is illegal in Colorado. Once again, LaRue responds in an intelligent, polite manner -- something I'm not sure I would have been able to do. He points out that it is not specified where the story takes place, whether it is in Colorado, in Massachusetts (where the author hails from), or even "in a wholly fictitious universe with its own laws." Yeah, like one where guinea pigs talk and wear clothes and get married? Ya think?
Of course, if we were to follow that line of reasoning -- removing books that depicted illegal acts -- we'd have to get rid of the mysteries, the adventures, the newspapers and news magazines... heck, most of the library would be empty. We'd even have to pull the bible off the shelf because, last time I checked, murder and incest are still illegal most places.
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ReaderComments (Page 5 of 6)
8-23-2008 @ 8:37PM
Terri K said...As someone else said previously, these are two Guinea Pigs not Human men. Children want to read a fun, entertaining book with pretty pictures. I haven't read the book but I would allow my children. I was raised Catholic, but I don't agree with their teaching's 100%. Children are not born to hate. Their parents make them that way. Just like the songs says in "South Pacific" 'you have to teach a child'......... Parents should be teaching their children tolerance of all HUMAN's, not just the one's that some of these so called Christian's think are HUMAN.
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8-23-2008 @ 8:38PM
Just Being Me, Thank Goodness said...Honestly I feel like it's carried out of context. I am not gay but have "unconventional" spiritual beliefs. I am always looking for new books that talk about my spirituality to help my children simply better understand my beliefs, not to force my beliefs upon them, they will have the freedom to choose for themselves. I feel like this book was created for a specific target group of consumers: by gays, for gays and people close to them, a kid-friendly (think like a child here, it's what most children's literaure authors do) way to help children understand, accept, and respect a certain circumstance. Whether it matches their beliefs or not. If it seems oddly suggestive that gay guinea pigs marry, then this book is not intended for you, put it back on the shelf, period. Children think purely, and abstractly until they are trained to think conventionally. My daughter paints purple grass and pink trees, Who am I to tell her that trees and grass are green if that's not how she wants to paint them as long as she's not harming anyone. I don't see where this author is causing harm either. We can buy build-a-bears in tuxes and gowns, if teddy bears can marry then why can't guinea pigs? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder...If you want to see something positive, then you see it positive, if you want to see that same thing as negative, then you will do so. Reading my daughter a book to help her understand why some families have 2 daddies or 2 mommies or 2 uncles isn't going to turn her gay, it will broaden her intelligence.
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8-23-2008 @ 8:38PM
Ally said...This is thinly cloaked homophobia. There are many children’s books out there that meet the criterion of illegal activity. Off the bat, I can think of a book where an 8 year old boy drives a car, but I cannot imagine that this librarian would not take it off the shelves. You don’t have to burn books to have censorship.
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8-23-2008 @ 10:40PM
Jezebele said...no, the constitution does not state the right of a gay marriage but it does state that every person has the right to the pursuit of happiness. if a man chasing another man's cock is him pursuing happiness then you can't deny him that. Who is to say the guinea pig wasn't as happy chasing is boyfriends cock as you were chasing your wife's vagina?
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8-23-2008 @ 8:50PM
Kevin said...Doctor Bob -- What a joke. Thanks for the very humorus comment.
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8-23-2008 @ 8:55PM
ricardoss said...IAM ATTRACTED TO BOYS SINCE I CAN REMEMBER ABOUT 6 OR 7 YRS OLD AND RAISED WITH 4 STRAIGHT BROTHERS... HELLO GET THE MESSAGE.........SANTANA
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8-23-2008 @ 8:58PM
RoyLee said...Gays are out... read your Bible people.
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8-23-2008 @ 9:07PM
Paul Cyopick said...I hope not all of the bible thumping bigots here are parents. If they are, I feel sorry for their children, who will grow up hating others for who they are, or what they believe in if it's different than their own beliefs.
Despite what many may have you believe, there is no connection between good morals and religion. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason.
We live in a free society, which means everyone has a right to live the way they choose, not the way you choose for them. If this is an unpopular stand in today's society, it only goes to show how much we need books like this, to show not only children but adults that everyone should be treated with respect and dignity.
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8-25-2008 @ 3:37AM
Winston said...Paul,
One correction to your post, which I'm sure you wouldn't want to acknowledge.
All the religious wars combined since the dawn of time did not produce the same amount of deaths as did Socialism &/or Communism of any sort in just one century.
Since 1900, Over 48 million were slaughtered in the Union of Soviet Socialist Republic, 42 million were slaughtered by the Communist Chinese, 2.5 million by the Communists in Cambodia & Vietnam, 9 million by the Nationalist Socialists in Germany.
They all were advocates of one form of Socialist doctrine or another, whereas various religions could be totally different. For instance, Christianity does not advocate war for religious reasons, whereas Islam, Hinduism & various others do.
And no, the Crusades are not an accurate example of Christian warfare. To the extent the crusades violated Christian doctrine, it did so in spite of the Bible's teachings, not because of it, meaning, it was not a religious act, but a violation if anything. Apart from the fact that it started as an act of self-defense against Muslim hoards ransacking Eastern Europe.
To the extent you believe any one who thinks the homosexual lifestyle is a deviant & self destructive lifestyle is a bigot, you seem to be exhibiting those same tendencies towards religion.
Winston
8-23-2008 @ 9:08PM
Superman said...I just THANK GOD that the majority of these limited thinkers who call themselves Christians! (cough, cough) ...That their 'opinions' are NOT anything, but meaningless in God's mind! lol The majority of these posts sicken me! Grow up, your children already "KNOW" A LOT MORE than you do! LMAO! Wouldn't you limited thinkers like to be "LIMITLESS" thinkers, instead of sounding like your 10 years old!? Geez!
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8-23-2008 @ 10:39PM
Winston said...It amazes me that there are so many people who probably wouldn't go to bat for the homosexual agenda just 20 years ago that are doing it now. There was a time in the not too distant past that 99% of the populous, including most of you, thought that homosexuality was a deviant & self-destructive lifestyle.
The point that is more relevant is not so much whether or not a fictitious book based on the homosexual lifestyle should be in a public library. As the author points out, there are murder mysteries depicting illegal acts. But you won't find them in the children’s section for kids age 5-7, & that is the more relevant point.
I know that most who have changed their opinion concerning homosexuality have done so because they believe that the lifestyle doesn't physically hurt any one as long as it is practiced between 2 consenting individuals. There are also those who changed their opinion because they have an inherent hostility toward any perceived religious viewpoints or have a vendetta against God or those who believe in Him. Or they think that we can't infringe on anyone's rights.
To take that to its logical conclusion, although I know many of you won't think so, we would have to apply this perspective to bestiality or homosexual & heterosexual marriage & sexual relationships between an adult and an individual under the age of 18, just as long as every participant is consenting & no one gets physically hurt. And we can't forget to put such books in the Children’s section to teach the next generation tolerance.
For those who are in favor of a book such as the one this article addresses being in the Children's section of a public library but wouldn't be in favor of similar plots involving bestial or underage relationships, why wouldn't you use the same reasoning to defend those as you would the other? After all, why deprive people, both young & old, not to mention animals, of doing what they want to do, just as long as no one gets hurt? Why take their rights away? And I am actually quite serious. What constitutes a right & what doesn't, if not the law & civil ethics from a traditional perspective?
Just to let you know, there are efforts even now being made to legalize bestial & adult-child relationships both marital & sexual, & it is all being propagated by segments of proponents of the homosexual agenda. The only exception are the Mormon FLDS who are propagating heterosexual under-age marriage without parental consent. One of the leading champions of bestial & adult-child relationships is a homosexual organization called NAMBLA (North American Man-Boy Love Association). You will find them on the WWW. Just do a Google search & you’ll be there.
There is a common mind-set held by many homosexual agenda proponents which stipulates that the mere recognition of homosexuality as being a deviant lifestyle is the equivalent of, & must be motivated by hatred. This is simply not the case. Most of the people who think homosexuality is wrong also believe that those who practice it should have that right privately without changing the definition of marriage from a legal standpoint, or having it foisted upon our children in a public library.
Is homosexuality a deviant lifestyle? Consider these entirely fact based statistics is you doubt it. These should be an indication that those who practice this lifestyle are not to be hated, nor should their lifestyle be supported or encouraged, but rather they should be pitied & exhorted that there is a way out.
Firstly, the average life span of homosexuals is under 50, as opposed to the national average which is 76%, over 90% are diagnosed as clinically depressed, over 80% are addicted to narcotics, alcohol, or both, & over 93% of all child molestation cases are homosexual in nature. In addition, the suicide rate among homosexuals is over 5x that of heterosexuals per capita. The child molestation statistic is quite amazing in light of the fact that less than 5% of the population is homosexual. In other words, 93% of all child sexual abuse cases are committed by a group constituting less than 5% of the populous.
Many have explained the reason for these extremely sad statistics as being the opposition to the homosexual lifestyle by Conservatives & people who hold to a more traditional code of ethical & moral standards helping to create a sort of a guilt complex & despair within those in the homosexual community. However, this is simply not the case either. If it were, these statistics, i.e. the high suicide rate, the propensity toward depression, addiction & a shorter life span, would apply among any other demographic on planet earth seeing as how there are a substantial amount of people who believe anything is wrong now-a-days.
A lot of you think Christianity or Conservatism is wrong, but you won’t find an epidemic proportion of individuals in those groups spiraling down the road of depression, suicide & addiction.
The reason for the fact that homosexuals live shorter, are more likely to commit suicide, exhibit signs of depression & become addicted to narcotics & alcohol to far greater proportions than their heterosexual counterparts has to do with the human conscious & the extent of the deviant behavior which is associated with their lifestyle. Even though there are many other practices which are wrong, some are more deviant in nature than others, & homosexuality is among them.
There are similar statistics with those involved in the porn industry because of the extent of deviant behavior associated with that lifestyle as well. To a lesser extent, those who habitually commit adultery have been found to exhibit more evidence of depression & addiction to illicit substances due to the guilt associated with their lifestyle.
Even though your average homosexual, porn star or adulterer would be prone to rationalize their lifestyle, they only do so to appease their guilt, which is why they are so desperate for others to accept their lifestyle in order to placate their conscience.
What would you do in the next 10 years or less when activists representing the movement to promote bestial marriage & sexual rights as well as adult-child sexual freedom rights want to circulate books depicting these lifestyles, in the children’s section no less, of your public library? You say it would never happen & you would never support such a thing, noting that such a comparison should never be made with a book promoting homosexuality, but that is exactly what most of you were saying just 10 or 20 years ago regarding homosexuality. Pretty soon, any thing will go, & most of you will be right there supporting it all, except for the ethics & standards that your parents advocated when you were growing up.
Winston
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8-23-2008 @ 11:00PM
Paul Cyopick said...Hmm.. nice statistics, too bad they are all made up. All I know is you're a 100% bigot.
8-25-2008 @ 8:44PM
Uncle Roger said..."It amazes me that there are so many people who probably wouldn't go to bat for the homosexual agenda just 20 years ago that are doing it now. There was a time in the not too distant past that 99% of the populous, including most of you, thought that homosexuality was a deviant & self-destructive lifestyle."
Push that back about 40 years and you would have written:
"It amazes me that there are so many people who probably wouldn't go to bat for the black agenda just 20 years ago that are doing it now. There was a time in the not too distant past that 99% of the populous, including most of you, thought that miscegenation was a deviant & self-destructive lifestyle."
Go back another 40 years and you would have written:
"It amazes me that there are so many people who probably wouldn't go to bat for the women's homosexual agenda just 20 years ago that are doing it now. There was a time in the not too distant past that 99% of the populous, including most of you, thought that giving women rights was a deviant & self-destructive lifestyle."
And at various other points in time, you would have been railing against jews or catholics or chinese or whoever wasn't just like you. Luckily, society marches forward, despite your best efforts to hold it back. I'm sorry that advancement scares you so much, but you'll just have to deal with it... because the next generation are already so over your pettiness it's not even funny. Like this book, for them, gay marriage is simply a non-issue -- and that gives me hope.
8-25-2008 @ 11:34PM
Winston said...Hey Uncle Roger,
I am getting the impression that you are homosexual. If that is the case, I have compassion for you.
Here is the difference with your comparison of past events with homosexuality.
Firstly, there were always a substantial percentage of our population who were abolitionists to slavery & racial discrimination. Slavery was almost abolished at our nations very inception because there were more of our founding fathers who were opposed to it than in favor if it. Several of the founders from Georgia & other southern states protested, stating the original reasons for slavery as a being to punish Africans who were sold by tribal leaders from their own nations.
Several of the founders foresaw problems due to corruption, that the tribal leaders from Africa who were selling the slaves to American slave traders might actually be selling innocent Africans for money, rather than selling only those guilty of crimes in their homeland, which was the original intent.
Another problem which contributed it slavery's opposition was that there was a potential for future generations of those original slaves might be bourn into slavery, which is exactly what happened.
The majority of Americans since this nation’s inception have been opposed to slavery. The most outspoken abolitionists of early America were the Christian Puritans & Quakers, two groups that you would accuse of being right-wing fundamentalist extremists today.
To remind you, the civil war was fought in large part, to abolish slavery, & that was over 100 years ago. Hundreds of thousands of white Americans gave their lives for that cause, & a Republican president laid his reputation on the line for that cause as well.
As for women’s rights, from a cultural perspective, there was never any intention of discrimination toward them from a legal standpoint. Culturally, it was by-and-large not thought of as being beneath women to prioritize their family & children over political activism. As the culture changed, so did the law.
But here is the difference between race & gender vs. homosexuality. Race & gender is not a lifestyle or act, whereas homosexuality is. Bestiality is. Pedophilia is, Murder is, Rape is. Robbery is. Drug addiction is.
Contrary to popular belief, homosexuality, along with all these other lifestyles & actions, is a choice. It is a deviant lifestyle, like bestiality & pedophilia.
Your rebuttal could also include reference to the future, which could also read…
“Push that forward about 40 years & you would have written:”
“”It amazes me that there are so many people who probably wouldn't go to bat for bestiality & pedophilia just 20 years ago that are doing it now. There was a time in the not too distant past that 99% of the populous, including most of you, thought that bestiality & pedophilia were deviant & self-destructive lifestyles.””
You know, homosexuality is a lifestyle full of despair. Depression, addiction, bondage to lust, suicidal tendencies, are all commonplace with those who practice it. Over 95% of all homosexuals have been forcibly raped, molested & experienced overtures from authority figures of the same sex which propelled them into that lifestyle. Most all of them exhibited no tendencies beforehand.
This trend is very similar to heterosexual rape & molestation. Most victims of these acts become extremely promiscuous after it happens to them as well.
The fact that most all homosexuals didn’t exhibit homosexual tendencies until after they experienced same-sex rape or molestation is also an indication that the lifestyle is a choice rather than the way they were born.
The homosexual lifestyle is a very despondent & sad lifestyle, filled with all the hopelessness associated with it. Most homosexuals will admit that their lifestyle is the cause of their misery, but also don’t see any way out. The reason is that it is also a bondage & addiction which consumes them with lust.
The reason they are so desperate for acceptance is that they are looking for a reason other than the lifestyle itself for their hopelessness & despair, so they assign it to the fact that there are those who think it is wrong. This is simply not true. It is their lifestyle which is the cause for the despair, not the lack of acceptance.
It is just like drug addiction, or any other addiction. People feel hopelessly addicted, & they think that if people simply accept them for all their drug use & alcoholism & tell them it is ok, everything will be better.
My heart goes out to you, Uncle Roger. I am not being sarcastic whatsoever. There is hope in the Lord, but it is still not easy.
I know several former homosexuals who are free from that lifestyle now, & they are much happier & have much more peace. I know this is totally against what you & so many others who think they need to endorse the lifestyle are saying, but they are not doing you any favors. You need to hear that there is hope for you to change, not that it is ok, especially when it is the lifestyle itself that is the cause of the pain.
If & when you are ready to leave that lifestyle behind, just remember what you may have heard already…”For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son. That whosoever believes in him will not perish but have everlasting life.”
It may not be what you want to hear, at least not, but it might in the future.
Winston
8-27-2008 @ 7:25PM
Uncle Roger said..."You know, homosexuality is a lifestyle full of despair. Depression, addiction, bondage to lust, suicidal tendencies, are all commonplace with those who practice it. Over 95% of all homosexuals have been forcibly raped, molested & experienced overtures from authority figures of the same sex which propelled them into that lifestyle. Most all of them exhibited no tendencies beforehand."
Again, where do you get these statistics? You can't just say "over 95%" and expect everyone to nod and say "well, alright then." Back it up. Show me some references. I'm perfectly willing to accept your statements, so long as you offer some semblance of credibility.
Without references, your claims are as believable as a claim that, say, "95% of people named Winston are long-winded buffoons."
8-23-2008 @ 10:44PM
ron kowal said...more Liberal brainwashing for our children; first make it o.k.
for male animals to marry, eventually people of the same sex
shows how morally corrupt this country has become
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8-24-2008 @ 12:17AM
Vicki Porter said...As I finish these comments, it scares me that there are such close-minded people in this day and age. Not to beat a dead horse, but, if you don't want your kid to read it, don't buy it, don't check it out of the library. But since I want my daughter to be open-minded and tolerant, I think I may be heading to Amazon to buy "Uncle Bobby's Wedding".
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8-24-2008 @ 8:12AM
dee said...*snicker*
You've never kept multiple guinea pigs, have you?
The recommended way to keep guinea pigs is two, in a same-sex pairing, which generally results in a dominant pig and submissive pig. And if you don't want your kid to see "abnormal, unnatural" acts, don't keep guinea pigs. Because whether your pairing is male or female, the dominant pig will mount the submissive pig.
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8-24-2008 @ 9:05AM
JETCHARTER1 said...Dee- It's obvious that you never had Cavies. You can keep the Sows together and there's never a problem with dominance. It's just one happy family. As for the Boars, you can keep ONE in with a group of sows and there won't be any mounting unless the Sows are in estrus (about every 32 days). If you try to keep the Boars together, THEY'LL KILL EACH OTHER!
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8-24-2008 @ 8:58AM
Vicki Porter said...Winston,
All I can say is, get a grip. Your argument is flimsy if you have to go for the shock value of pedophilia and bestiality.
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