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Playground etiquette - Letting kids be kids?
Filed under: Big Kids, Tweens, Health & Safety: Babies, Playground Bureau, Day Care & Education

This week there was frost on the ground and the sky was strewn with wind-tattered clouds, V's of honking geese, and the last wayward monarchs heading toward
It was the kind of weather that called us outdoors every day for an extra mid-morning recess.
Even though I'm theoretically sacrificing academic time by heading outdoors for a handful of minutes with my class, I find I mostly gain time because the children are less restless and more willing to settle down with a good chapter book or a math activity when their bodies have had some time to run outdoors. But I also like going outdoors with them because it gives me a chance to watch them interacting together in an unstructured way.
I keep noticing how uncertain they are in their play together without an adult intervening for them whenever something doesn't go their way.
I know. I've probably exhausted you with my posts about play and children, but it's my obsession. I can't let it go.
I can't shake the feeling that playing--as we knew it when we were kids--is being forever altered by the cultural landscape of today. Some of you will argue that as long as there are kids, kids will play, so what's the big deal? And you might be right. But the way kids play today is so much more stilted and cautious and dependent on adults than it was twenty years ago.
And I'm wondering if somehow, as parents and teachers, we couldn't be doing more--or less, really--to help our kids thrive in their play together.
Is it our job to protect them obsessively, or let them take risks more? Are we hovering and micro-managing too much, or are we too absent from our kids lives, and in school (as teachers) too focused on academic outcomes to pay any heed to social shortcomings?
Take an incident that happened this week, for example. Two kids scuffled. They were long-time friends, close like siblings really. Push came to shove and one of them ended up falling awkwardly out of the sandbox and breaking a bone. Either of them could have fallen; but the way the chips landed one fell and broke an arm, and the other one was fine, and both sets parents were naturally aggrieved. Then they started blaming the other...
And well...because this is a recent and somewhat unresolved incident, I won't go any further into the details. But I'm wondering--how would you respond in this situation? What would you do if your kid was pushed by her best friend and broke her arm? And what would you do if it was your kid who did the pushing?
Who is to blame? (I mean this as broadly as possible here.) And what is the right way for adults to respond? Should kids be allowed to work out their disagreements for themselves-apologizing, etc, as they deem necessary? Or should adults always intervene to orchestrate their interactions-or prevent them from interacting entirely?
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10-09-2008 @ 1:36PM
Uly said...If my kid got pushed and fell funny I'd tell her to fall better and not to fight with her friends so much. Ditto for the other way around.
That said, it's very easy to imagine that current trends - or what we *perceive* as current trends, they may not be as trendy or as current as we think! - will have a lasting impact.
And they might, they might indeed.
But that impact may be far different from what we think now. Impossible to tell while we're blinded by the present.
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10-09-2008 @ 10:10AM
Dave said...Kids play hard sometimes. They also let bygones be bygones a lot more easily than we parents do. When, as in the example cited in the article, two close friends get angry with each other (who of us can say that our friends never tick us off?), there is a short-lived burst of "steam", then the friendship is closer than ever. However, when a serious injury is sustained by one or the other, the parents of the injured child should expect that the parents of the non-injured child make it right by at least paying for the hospital visit. Accidents happen. This type of situation should be used as a lesson-learning experience for both of the children. Both children and both sets of parents should go to the hospital, so that the lesson is driven home. Believe me, the two kiddoes will be playing with each other as friendly as ever, even as the parents are still shooting glares at each other. We should learn from the kids that these things happen and we can come out the other side with our friendship intact.
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10-09-2008 @ 10:21AM
SoMo said...I agree with letting kids settling their own disagreements. I do this with my own children. I use to hate it, being the older child, being told that I should know better and to just understand how my younger sibling felt. Hell, it is still going on into adulthood. I refuse to do that with my children. My son may only be 2.5 yrs old, but he knows what annoys his older, 6 yr old, sister and is not always totally innocent.
As for the broken arm incident, I would be extremely annoyed by the fact that I would be out of pocket for a broken arm, but kids have broken bones, before, all on their own. As long as there was no bullying going on and the other child was not trying to cause harm, I would chalk it up to kids being kids. Now, I say that without any major injuries to either one of my kids. However, having a daughter, I have had to deal with emotional trauma. We have always told her that she must learn how to get along and stand up for herself, because we won't always be there to solve her problems. The problem was mainly because my daughter insisted on playing with older girls and we simply informed her that them calling her a baby was a consequence of that. Recently, she has told us that she can play with the older girls and not "be a baby". The best way to learn how to move through society is to fall and get back up, broken bones and all.
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10-09-2008 @ 11:01AM
Nicola said...We've actually been in almost this situation. We were at a friend's house when their daughter playfully pushed my son out of his chair (they were both in high spirits) and he broke his arm. Freak accident. It was just the way that he fell. It could have resulted in nothing more than a brief scolding to them both to settle down, but because he hit the floor just right, it resulted in a rush to the ER, a cast for 5 weeks, and a few visits to the pediatric orthopedist.
The parents were distraught. Absolutely beside themselves. My attitude was, hey, accidents happen. No hard feelings. He lived and he'll always have a funny story to tell.
Now, these two were playing, versus your story which involved a scuffle, but I think that the same rules apply. They were kids doing kid things. Being too rough, taking it too far. There was no malicious intent. Had the child fallen in another direction or not fallen at all, there would have been no broken arm. It was simply bad luck. One child did not break another child's arm. There was simply an accident that resulted from the kids being a bit too physical and in a very unfortunate and unlucky turn of events, the boy fell in such a way as to break his arm. Chance in a million. Both sides need to move on and get back to enjoying their children. Children will be children, accidents will happen, and life goes on. This need to assign blame for every incident is ridiculous. Life happens. Enjoy the adventure with a smile on your face.
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10-09-2008 @ 12:51PM
SKL said...My brother was laid up for three months with a broken femur because he flicked a gum wrapper in a friend's face and the friend tackled him. The friend felt badly - he certainly didn't intend to cause harm. My parents privately felt the friend had been too aggressive, but ultimately, I'm pretty sure both boys learned valuable lessons and came out better. It would have served no purpose to give the other boy's family a hard time.
Another brother suffered a broken tooth becasue a boy maliciously punched him, reportedly without provocation (according to witnesses). In that case, my parents spoke to the other boy's parents and tried to get them to pay for the broken tooth. They refused to take any responsibility or admit their son's responsibility.
When my sister was in the 3rd grade, a boy who was known for being aggressive kicked her repeatedly in the face during recess. That time, my dad marched to the school and demanded that the principal take action and involve the boy's parents, and ensure better supervision on the playground.
So, it all depends on the circumstances.
I will say that I feel the reason today's kids need so much guidance in their play is that parents and daycare centers don't teach them manners and values before KG, as they used to. The popular attitude of today is that kids don't have enough intelligence to be considerate and communicate effectively. Parents happily accept this "easy out." Parents and daycares may talk about behavior ideals, but they don't seem to really expect the kids to internalize them.
I've been taking my two daughters to a library story hour. They are among the youngest kids there, and pretty much the best behaved. There is a brother-sister pair (ages 2 and 4) who have gotten into fisticuffs every time we've seen them. Every time something doesn't go their way, the loud (and I mean LOUD) screaming starts, and toys fly, and there is pinching, scratching, etc. The mom has that resigned "you know kids" attitude. The only time I saw her apply discipline was after the 2-year-old bashed her brother's head with a toy; she had to sit for maybe a minute before joining the play again. Within minutes she had flung another toy; this time in the direction of my daughter, who wasn't even involved with her. (We left at that point.) Although I want my kids to interact with their peers, I am ambivalent about letting my kids see unchecked unruly behavior, because I hold my kids to much higher standards. And believe me, they are capable of observing them.
10-09-2008 @ 12:58PM
Sarah said...Sometimes I think the hardest thing to do is stand back long enough to let children work out their own disputes. As a teacher, I
sometimes find myself trying to spare a student from some emotional upset and taking big issue when someone is acting downright mean. But one thing I've noticed, especially with older children, is the more I intervene, the more opportunities they create for me to intervene. I hear more tattling, more not-so-nice whispering to each other once I've said my peace. It's as if they long for me to solve the problem for them in hopes of being proved right. Once I decided to take a step back, and, at most, guide them in how to appropriately and respectfully deal with the issue themselves, they began to stop pointing fingers and get along much better.
We've all had to deal with adults who obviously struggle in social
situations. Perhaps they throw a public fit when they don't get what
they want or just can't seem to let something go. Maybe they refuse
to take any sort of responsibility for their actions and constantly
find someone else to blame for their current situation, and we have
to wonder what fundamental learning experiences they missed in
childhood that could have caused them to become so abrasive. In these moments I realize that in a time when lawsuits are prevalent and the blame game is replayed nightly on any given news network, we are showing our kids that any mistake is OK as long as they can prove that it's not their fault.
I think it's incredibly important for the parents in this situation
to accept that children will inevitably argue and sometimes even get
hurt. As much as we'd love to prevent that, it's a part of childhood
and a valuable learning experience. If we model blaming instead of
conflict resolution and forgiveness we miss the lesson and so do our
kids. We can't change what others do in these situations, but we can control our reactions and, in the process, raise more responsible children.
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10-09-2008 @ 1:59PM
SKL said...Another consideration is that kids are much less likely to be playing "on the street" with their neighborhood friends. When I look back and think how I learned social skills, it was by venturing down the street and hanging out with other kids with no adult supervision at all. Because kids basically want to be accepted, we would tread softly and feel each other out to figure out the best social approach with each new friend. Beginning before KG, we spent part of every day doing this, and the majority of the summers. I don't see much of that happening any more.
I wouldn't say I'm blinded by the present, Uly. I've watched/helped a few generations grow up now, so I think my observations have stood the test of time.
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10-09-2008 @ 2:12PM
Uly said...SKL, no matter how many generations you've seen grow up, you still do not have the ability to see the future. It's very easy for us to look around, see how things are now, and then claim that it was "different in the past" and that it's a "terrifying trend" for the future. But we have no way of knowing if the way things *seem* to be going now is the way they will actually go.
In 100, 200 years, it will be obvious. Right now? Not so much.
10-09-2008 @ 3:19PM
SKL said...Ah, Uly, you are yet very young. When you are my age, if you have are good at pattern recognition, you will be the one predicting the future.
Experience IS the best teacher, after all.
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10-09-2008 @ 11:40PM
Uly said...If I generally trusted your judgment on other matters, I might be inclined to agree with you on that one.
But I don't, and... I don't.
Given that the older generation has been ranting and raving for at least the past couple of thousand years about how Youth Today Are Ruining Everything and how It Was Bettter When I Was Young, I really doubt that their/your assessments on the future are going to be any more accurate than they were 2000 years past.
10-10-2008 @ 12:38PM
SKL said...Ah, but Uly, I would say that you are yet too young (or possibly too self-absorbed or closed-minded) to realize the wisdom of the past. See, I've been where you are, but you haven't been where I am. It's OK to be suspicious, but don't put too much energy or ego into arguments you might take back later.
10-14-2008 @ 1:04PM
Jennifer said...I cannot agree more that kids today have a harder time playing without "adult guidance" than we did growing up - and here is why. My son is 9 and my daughter is 6 and I am still uncertain as to what their boundaries outside are. It seems that each day there is some story on the news about another child abducted, or another child predator is found. When is a child "old enough" to play unsupervised in the neighborhood? I remember going to the park with my friends at 10 or 11 years old. When I think about my children going to the park by themselves - all I can think is "God forbid, what if ...". So the alternative is to take them to the park, sign them up for team sports, arrange play dates - all with parents within a shouting distance. Children are rarely given the chance to "unsupervised play" to learn how to work things out on their own.
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10-14-2008 @ 2:49PM
Kate said...My main concern would be how the non injured child felt when the other child broke their arm. Was there a sense of compassion or remorse? Likely, it's a case of such a young child not being able to see the full repercussions of their actions not a physically abusive child.
All children will fight and sometimes that includes getting physical. Especially little boys.
I think some parents get too involved in childhood disputes. Nothing looks more silly to a child then to see another kid cry and run off to mommy over a minor infraction. Parents that encourage this aren't doing their kids any favors.
Adults all to often want to place labels on children. Sometimes they are correct but other times they create a bigger problem. if a child is labeled as a trouble maker they are damned if they do and damned if they don't. Take Huckleberry Finn for an example. He caused a whole lotta mischief and I bet most parents wouldn't want their children to play with him, but was he a "bad" child lacking compassion for other people? How about Curious George? Is he unruly and rude or just overly curious and thirsty for learning?
While not physical, I got in a fight once with my best friend as a kid the first day of summer and didn't speak to her until one week before school started. While most likely uncomfortable for our parents, who were also friends, they did not intervene. We remained best friends for over 15 years after that incident.
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