Dutch may force bad mothers to use contraception
Categories: Just for moms, Love & sex, Pregnancy & birth
It's not a bad idea, in an abstract, theoretical way. If you can't take care of the kids you have, you probably shouldn't oughta be having any more. It's even been tried, on a very limited and very optional basis, by offering incentives. The Dutch, however, are proposing to take it one step further and make contraception mandatory for two years, for women deemed by the state to be an unfit mother."It targets people who have been the subject of judicial intervention because of their bad parenting," explained Marjo Van Dijken who authored the bill. "If someone refuses the contraception and becomes pregnant, the child must be taken away directly after birth." While I'm sure we all want the best for all kids and there are certainly people out there who shouldn't be parents at all, let alone having more kids, this seems to me to be a rather extreme solution. I think I'd rather go the route of educating parents about contraception as well as providing more training on being a good parent.
In the US, I suspect this would never even get a chance to be voted on, but I must admit I don't know enough about Dutch politics and culture to know if this has any chance of becoming law. I have to say, I hope it's intended just as a wake-up call to get people talking about the issue of poor parenting.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 4)
SKL 11-06-2008 @ 2:05PM
Do these people take forced "counseling" seriously? I think it's just a waste of taxpayer money.
If they could find a type of long-term contraception that wasn't dangerous or too intrusive, I'd be for including this in the sentence of a parent who commits serious child abuse / neglect. I've never been a big fan of civil rights for those who illegally harm others.
For that matter, how about requiring it in order for a family with multiple children to get welfare? How about requiring it after an abortion?
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Tamara gilham 11-06-2008 @ 8:21PM
I definitly agree. We make sex offenders register but serious child abusers get out of jail and are not reqired to anything else, and most often do not even have to go to counseling. When they do it is a joke, with a best friend who dealth with an abusive parent who she was repeatadaly returned to after "counseling" I completely agree with this kind of law.
Magenta 11-06-2008 @ 10:09PM
Why should someone who's had an abortion be forced onto contraceptives? Just because the time wasn't right then to have a child, later in the woman's life her situation could have improved and she may be ready to have a child.
judbentley 11-07-2008 @ 2:27AM
Anyone who has worked in the Child Welfare system & seen the suffering of children born drug-affected or brain damaged from shaken baby syndrom, etc., would like to see these kids required to use contraception. Personally, I think they should be offered free tubal ligations or vasectomies. Not required to have those operations, but given them if they'll agree. Expecting them to follow through on their own doesn't work.
SAM 11-07-2008 @ 11:18AM
I totally agree and I believe that children are wonderful but that neglectful and dangerous parents shouldn't just be told to use contraceptive... what's so wrong with pushing some people to get vasectomies or get their tubes tied? And just because you had an abortion doesn't make you a bad person of such sometimes there's real reasons behind it and its something that for the good of everyone should be done. Other times it's for horrible reasons regardless of if you believe in the act of abortion in its self or not. And reckless men are just as responsible for these children as women... he wasn't praying while she was getting pregnant!
Dorothea 11-08-2008 @ 3:03PM
No--lets castrate the men who rape the women who then have abortions. Lets neuter the fathers. They do have fathers, right? Or men that don't pay their child support!
karen 11-09-2008 @ 7:45PM
I agree with your comment completely...mandatory cut the tubes...men too...
No welfare unless cut the tubes either
LS 11-06-2008 @ 5:28PM
How about requiring it for bad FATHERS as well as bad mothers. It takes two to make a baby. Those mothers aren't just cloning themselves, or splitting like an amoeba.
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Christopher M. Lohse 11-06-2008 @ 10:46PM
Women are responsible for contraception because it's women that become pregnant.
Andi 11-06-2008 @ 11:10PM
Oh, I'm sorry Christopher. I didn't know men could shoot blanks at will, therefore not being responsible for pregnancy. It takes two to tango and I suspect you've got more than one kid out there with your name on it. Douchebag
LS 11-07-2008 @ 9:01AM
It's ok, Andi... we're equal-opportunity listeners here. We even let the Trolls speak.
Derek 11-07-2008 @ 4:39PM
I get the feeling Christopher was being snide. Men have no say in their child's life if a woman has an abortion, so logically why enforce anything against them.
Not saying I agree in so many respects... if there was some kind of moral compass that told us who to neuter and when... I'd be all for it, both sexes.
But, if we're going to hold both accountable for the conception why isn't the father given any right to the life of his baby before an abortion takes place?
SAM 11-07-2008 @ 11:29AM
I think if men want such a say so in abortion or not then why not set up something like a contractual agreement to say that your going to take care of this child and support the mother for the sacrafices she's going to have to make. You know it's so easy to say that you don't want the baby killed but there's so many men who would say that out of conscience and then after the child is born he doesn't want to deal with the mother or the child. And women give up so much to have children, deal with hormonal and emotional issues, can sacrafice the ability to work due to child restraints or physical ones, and so many more issues.
LS 11-07-2008 @ 1:45PM
Then maybe they shouldn't be sleeping together until they've discussed the issues and know one anothers position on the issue.
Kamera 11-06-2008 @ 8:34PM
I think this is one way to control the issue at hand, and i do not think it is too drastic.
If these parents can not learn to control themselves then I beleive they should lose such rights.
It should be the 3 strick and your out law, meaning on the third strick you are sterilized.
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NC 11-06-2008 @ 8:36PM
Hey Roger-
If you had ever seen a child that was abused by their parent you wouldn't think this was going too far. Being thrown against a wall and duct taped to keep a child still is just a few examples. If giving someone who is drug addicted and just keeps having children a safe contraceptive were something I could vote for, there wouldn't be a question. I agree that it probably wouldn't get anywhere in America but I don't think that is a good thing!
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Donna 11-06-2008 @ 8:45PM
Yeah, and bad fathers should be "neutered"..... there are just as many, if not more, abusive men out there than women, what about them too? And what about all the dead beat dads who go about fathering babies all over the county and denying everyone inspite of DNA proof and state awarded child support? Thats abuse too. How do you stop them?
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JustTiredOfTheHateSpeak 11-06-2008 @ 9:28PM
I'm in the medical profession and recently did an intense rotation in forensic pathology, which deals with child abuse and neglect. The most interesting thing that I learned is that it is WOMEN and not men who are more likely to be abusive, both physically and emotionally, both to spouses and to children. Also not paying child support is not technically child abuse. It is child neglect and under the law, they are completely different things.
Jim Holomon 11-06-2008 @ 10:41PM
By keeping your legs CLOSED.
orangesoda717 11-06-2008 @ 8:48PM
the only problem with this that i see. what about the child/children they already have? it doesnt do anything to protect them. it only prevents more of them.
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