Seperation of church and state is a first amendment thing. Since this particular school is in the United Kingdom the First Amendment does not apply. I guess the question is the school policy on jewlery. Head scarves are not jewlery.

First you need to get educated on the First Amendment. Second, she goes to school in England not the US. There is no such thing as separation of church and state in either the US or England.

honestly i think it's a little ridiculous to fight over this. it's just a ring. but in my opinion she shouldn't be able to go around the school dress code rules just because she's citing as religion. wearing a purity ring may be linked to christianity but it is not mandatory if you are a christian and honestly isn't completely exclusive to religion. it is a personal belief not a religious belief so it should not be used as one. i'm sick of people wielding religion in arguments where it doesn't really belong. go ahead and yell at me but it is not everyone's god given right to force their beliefs on others and decide what is right and wrong for everyone else just because their religion "tells" them too

too true, nicola. i'm an atheist... and quite frankly, i don't get this whole thing. obviously, if there's a dress code in place, then this girl is attending a private school, most likely of her and her parents' choosing. i don't think an exception should be made for any religious reasons to any of these kids. like you said... the dress code is there to keep kids from standing out based on theyre clothes etc. but these kids are merely singling themselves out and using religion to do so. if you don't like the rules, go elsewhere. there are plenty of good schools that don't have dress codes in place. and there are also religious schools which not only tolerate religious jewelry etc... but embrace it.

It is a double standard world now , I'm just glad there are still wholesome values of purity and moral . I hope my son who is coming into this world has a chance to meet a girl who has purity and that he can have purity to have the joy that it brings. A school can't make exceptions for some religions and not respect other ones .

Not really sure how I got dragged into some sort of argument here, and I'm quite certain that I am not "retarded" (do people still say that?), but just to clarify -- my feeling is that in a school with a dress code, either ALL students must adhere to that code, or you admit to granting religious exemptions, in which case she could in fact wear the purity ring if she is claiming it as a part of her faith walk. Just as the Muslim girls may wear their head scarves. I personally don't think that religion has any place in school unless you are attending a religious school, but that is my belief and not some sort of constitutional (and this was the UK for that matter!) interpretation.

your completly right nicola. to liz and crystal who insulted you stop bitchin about the muslims. stop generalizing a society of people whos ideals and beliefs you dont know. the scarves are excepted cause they are part of a doctrine. those rings are some dumb idea that currently is not in any doctrine i know of. so calm down, get a grip and purity rings, seriously thats just tacky, like polka dot purses. id rather not know of the sexual activity or inactivity of others, keep it to your selves, okay?

If muslims are allowed to wear their headscarves why wouldn't she be allowed to wear her ring? It just goes to show you how anti-religious a bunch of Americans can be. Do we not live in a country where we are allowed to show our beliefs regardless of our religion if it does not harm others or ourselves. It is just a ring that shows apart of who she is and what she believes in. I wear a necklace everyday which shows my religious belief and no one has EVER told me to take it off. IThe only comments I have ever gotten on it was how cool it was or how they liked it. I have worn it for the past 4 years! I work in two environments where there are all different religious views and neither one of my co-workers or bosses has ever said I needed to take it off because it "offends them". Some things may offend others while whatever the object or type of clothing my not offend the rest. I don't understand why everyone is so hyporcitical about religous views and things people wear or do as it applies to their faith of choosing. JUST STOP AMERICA!!! Love everyone and help those in need. If we all would just stop hating on other religions then maybe we could all see the world in a better light.

AND OF COURSE YOU MISSED THE PART ABOUT THE MUSLIMS BEING ALLOWED TO BREAK THE RULES AND WEAR HEAD SCARVES.

I agree with Nicola 100%.

THIS IS FOR EVERY DINGBAT WHO FREAKS OUT ABOUT ISLAM...Most muslims who live here, are natural born citizens. The percentage of muslims who are extremists is far smaller than the percentage of far right christian extremists who try to shove their religion down anyone else's throat any way they can. Your intolerance (Liz, Crystal and the others) only shows how ignorant you are. A purity ring is a CHOICE, its an accessory for those who want to show off how devoted they are to the bible. The traditional head dress is required of female followers of Islam. Its not them saying "LOOK AT ME! I'M SAYING I'LL STAY A VIRGIN UNTIL I'M MARRIED BECAUSE I'M THAT GOOD OF A CHRISTIAN", its a form of modesty.

To be honest the girl did say she decided to wear one when she found out that that band was wearing one too. She didn't do it for religious reasons; they were personal, she though wow they stand up for something that is hard to stand up this days, I wanna do it too. Muslims were a headscarf because it is require on their religion to do so. Last time i check a ring of purity is not part of Christianity

Wearing a purity ring has nothing to do with her faith. There is nothing in the Bible telling this girl to wear a Purity Ring. Comparing it to Muslim women/girls wearing head scarbes is absurd, since that is a part of their religion. Saying you're waiting until marriage is a part of the religion, not the jewelry that signifies it.

Nowhere does Christianity require that unmarried Christians wear "purity rings." Purity rings are not part of any Christian belief. They are just a fad being marketed for people to make money.


Purity rings fly in the face of both Christian beliefs and good manners. In both faithful Christan circles and in polite company it is assumed that an unmarried person will remain chaste.

No person of proper morals or manners would wear or allow his/her child to wear a piece of jewelery (other than a real wedding band) that makes a statement about his or her sexual practices or abstinence.

To wear a purity ring...it implies that it unusual or the exception for an unmarried Christians to remain chaste. Such an implication is an insult to other Christians. It is also somewhat inappropriate (actually bordering on perverse) that so called "Christians" would encourge children to fixate on sexuality.

If your talkimg to me Crystal I have no clue what you mean.
The Hippie thing was funny tho. I have nothing against Muslims so I really don't get what you mean? Care to explain?

I have to disagree with you this issue. You made some valid points; however, school is mandatory by law to attend. When laws are made for you to go to school then that school doesn't have the right to tell you that you can't wear a ring that represent your belief. Plus,not all people can afford private school. What is being suggested here would be the same thing as a job telling someone that they couldn't wear their wedding ring. The promise ring is a symbol of hope, faith and love one relationship with their God. What is wrong with this country is that we accept and make exceptions for all other cultures but then whole Christians to a different standard. Many schools today have swim class mandatory for passing gym; however, there are religious groups that will not let males and female swim together or even be in a bathing suit with the opposite sex around. Should we force the school rule on them? I would hope not because this is a land of freedom and choice of religious faith is right that all deserves.

How about you get a real Muslim's point of view, from a girl who actually wears a head scarf, has been wearing it for five years, and goes to a public school. The point of a scarf is for modesty. While wearing a head scarf you are also supposed to dress modestly, meaning no tight clothing so guys dont check out your body. If you are a muslim girl then you must wear a head scarf because that is just part of the religion. That is just like sayin im a christain but i dont believe jesus is my god..-hypothetical example. So onto the ring, this girl went to school called "st mary" coincidence? Im guessing that that is a private school and many private schools dont allow jewlery and a purity ring is classified as jewlery. a head scarf is not classified as jewlery but as a part of an attire. just like you wouldnt go outside without wearing a shirt, i wouldnt go outside without wearing a scarf. but as i recall there was an article a couple years back about a girl who wore a scarf and was sent to ISS (in school suspension) but come one a scarf is part of a religion and a purity ring well i have yet to read where in the bible that comes from and where the actual thought of a purity ring came from.
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It is thinking like Nicola and Sam the Atheist that have our kids killing each other, killing their parents and siblings and dying of AIDS, etc. ANYTHING goes, anything at all, but not Christ or purity of any kind. For this to even be an issue is very telling about the world we live in. Corruption is everywhere and if you decide to try something different, something Christian, look out. You can be anything you want, wear whatever you want, etc. But be a God-follower and you are in big trouble. If you want to beolieve, believe. If you don't, then don't. Wearing a purity ring is hurting no one and that teacher is just another poor unbeliever who needs God.

The administration has an easier time coming to terms with the fact that students are becoming sexually active at a young age. Too bad those 8 girls in Mass. who got pregant together didn't have this opportunity.

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