It's not that I feel that this sort of thing should not be discussed; I just worry that if people see it often enough they will become completely desensitized just feel like "Oh yeah, that's bad. Ho-hum."

We need to be shocked and appalled by a video like this whether it's real or fake.

Jan from http://www.unique-baby-gear-ideas.com/

Ok - I think somethings need to be cleared up. I know the man who has been arrested and here are some facts.

1. Mr Chris Illingworth (the man who has been arrested) was arrested for viewing and RE-uploading this clip (not being the person who originally uploaded it but copping it from one site to another). In Queensland, Australia all of those here who said that they have seen this clip - or anything considered physical child abuse could also be arrested under this law.

2. Some people seem to be confused on where Chris got this clip from. He saw it (downloaded it) on Utube then RE-uploaded it from there onto liveleak which is a site that allows everyday people to report news stories. He RE-uploaded it as a News story just as many other people/reporters have done with this particular video clip.

3. Chris doesn't know the people involved in making the video or the people who are in the video (who have been identified as a Russian Circus family). He was not the person who originally posted the video to the Internet he simply REPOSTED it from one site to another.

4. Chris is a very caring father and grandfather and has been uttley mortified with being charged for this, having his home and business raided and being tarnished as a child abuser and has had to go to hospital since being charged with high blood pressure as a result of the stress this has caused.

5. In Queensland if I was to go to funniest home videos website and download (view) a clip where a child falls over and the parents giggle I to could be arrested for downloading child abuse material. Most people who live in this state are unaware of this law.

I believe that the man who was in the video and the baby and also the person who filmed the act and the person who originally uploaded the video to the Internet should all be arrested.

As for the nice old man who was looking though utube and found a video which he then bought to the attention of other Internet users in the hope that someone would know who it was swinging that baby was around - well that's just ridiculous. But I guess our court will decide.

Regarding "both should be arrested" please see my comment below as this article is a little misleading and my comment will clear up a few things

:) WATHOE

Here, here! Those charges are trumped up BS by the Aussie police. Free Biggles9!

Are you serious? This man swung this child mercilessly for over 3 minutes with no regard to the childs well being. He could have very easily dislocated a joint, done permanent damage, little own the fact that the child HAD to be holding their breath when swung so erratically. I hope that child is unharmed and in better care than what was shown on the video. Children are by no means as fragile as china, however they depend on us to protect them and care for them, and that clearly is not what this person is providing the child. He's no pedophile, but he's an abuser nonetheless, and the child deserves better.

I too saw the video and I feel that they should both be arrested. The person who posted the video has no heart how can you post something like that. I am a mother and grandmother and i cried when i saw the video, I cant imagine what that poor baby must have been going thru. So do i feel bad for the person who posted the video, no I dont because you need to know what's right and what is not and that video regardless is not right. The person who posted should learn a lesson there are certain things you should leave alone if you were not going to do something about it then dont post it. What did he expect to gain. I have no sympathy for him and they should find that lunatic who had the nerve to swing his child around in that manner.

This was kind of my take on this too... the poster was bringing attention to a problem, the swinger was the problem. I work in a women's shelter and work every day with kids who have been abused or have seen abuse between parents. I give kudos to the guy who posted this... the things we don't talk about can hurt society as a whole.

Family service zealots have a case of legitimate child abuse here. I can't imagine anyone NOT knowing how harmful this can be to a child . The man doing this should without a doubt be arrested. I'm not sure what reason the other man had for posting this. If he wanted to make sure the abuser was noticed and hopefully caught , then good for him. In that case , give him a medal.

well said !! its always been my same belief, everything u mentioned.
thank you

The bible can also serve as a tool to make children quite about abuse. Look at what happened when those priest abused those children.

I have to agree that the person swinging the baby is completely guilty of child abuse! Ignorance, maybe, but that doesn't matter, he's still guilty and should be an example. The person shooting the video, also guilty! The person who posted it, hard to say. Assuming he did this to make people aware of this abuse, I guess he wanted to help, but I think he might have been better off to go about it a different way. Take it to the authorities instead. Post comments about it where he saw it. There are so many idiots/ignorant people in this world, that some of them will see a video like this and it puts ideas into their heads. Not a good thing!

I have to totally agree with Julie about the subject of God. Here in the US, where we're all supposed to have so much freedom, including freedom of religion, Christians are the #1 persecuted group! People really go out of their way to make sure that Christians don't get to really express their beliefs, etc., but all the other religions are just fine. As Christians, though, we don't stand up and fight for our rights like we should. Everyone else is shouting, sueing, etc. for theirs!

As far as taking religion out of the schools, and these days, the courthouses, and now money, amongst many other things, is a horrible tragedy. Just look at our country, the crime, the drugs, the people killing their children, children killing their parents, and on and on and on.....People have no respect for God, no respect for each other, no respect for the law, no respect for common decency, it's just sickening! Everything is ok these days it seems. All the bad language, violence, and sex on the tv, movies, in music, and on video games. It's no wonder that most people have the morals of a viper!

I got off the subject, but I know in my heart that so many turning their backs on God is the root of this countries problems. Evil abounds, and the devil is absolutely thrilled. Things are just like he wants them and it's gonna get worse if people don't turn back to God before it's too late. If you don't like what I have to say, so be it, but I know the truth and where I will go when I leave this earth. I pray for the lost daily, including those two idiots responsible for the video!

If he was just interested in bringing it to the authorities attention, he should have given it to them. There was no need to post it.

I strongly believe, and pray, this video is fake. If someone really swung a baby around like that for that long, the child would most likely suffer dislocated joints and injuries consistent with Shaken Baby Syndrome. Just look how his little head is flopping around!

The other problem here is that it is also illegal to VIEW this video - as it is child abuse. So if he had taken it to the authorities and told them where he saw it they could have still arrest him.