Octuplets' Mom Has Six Other Kids and Absent Husband

Sorry for the mispelling of the last name Jim Bob and Michelle. And by the way congratulations on #18.

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Eileen,

What an incredibly hateful remark. Being Muslim does not make anyone a "potential terrorist," nor does being from Iraq even mean that you are of the Islamic faith! Were she of that faith (as many of my husband's side of the family are, being from *gasp* somewhere in the Middle East) she is less likely to be attempting to conceive children out of wedlock. Particularly with it being condoned by the parents. EVEN IF SHE IS MUSLIM it doesn't matter as far as this situation is concerned and all you comment did was incite more hatred towards a community that has already been ostracized in our nation.

*steps down off soapbox*

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Just because her father is from Iraq doesn't mean that she is not an American Citizen! Will everyone just back off the grandfather's country of origin? How does it really contribute to the discussion?

*starts looking for a soapbox*

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I would not watch any stupid reality TV show that interviews this family. This is a puppy mill, and its morally wrong.

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A social disaster, What was she thinking going to a fertility clinic for 8 more, She can't take care of the six she has. Shame on her,those will grow up without so much because of her selfishness.

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No one has addressed the issue of where did she get the money to have this doctor give her the eggs? No money to live on ????? Yet
plenty of money to have eggs implanted??? If I heard it right all her children are conceived the same way with the same male sperm. He to should be held responsible for $ of the up keep of HIS children,all of them!! He is no better then her.

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Well children are a blessing from the Lord, at first I figured that this was her first pregnancy, but a few day slater we find out that there are six others under the age of seven. This is a social disaster. You are telling me that she is this dumb, her parents have filed bankrupty because of her, for they couldn't afford to pay for the house they bought her, and her she comes, pregnant with not one but eight. Woman you are stupid you are foolish and I have to say you need to get yourself occupied with other things than just wanting to breed and reproduce all the time, get a trade learn something and try to take care of your fourteen kids, placing a burden on your parents that is not fair, but maybe your parents like this.

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No wonder the father is absent. If he fathered these babies, I suggest he be castrated, although I don't usually recommend this procedure, with him I'll make an exception.

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I love to watch Jon & Kate + 8, so I was anxious to learn about these octuplets. When I heard that their were already 6 children, I thought to myself "Why would any physician do fertility treatments for someone that already has 6?" When I see the press conferences it makes me wonder even more. Kaiser Permanente did fertility treatments on a multiparous woman and added 8 medically high risk newborns to their plan? Why would an insurance carrier purposely do that to themselves? I can only imagine the amt of money that will be required to care for the medical needs alone. So considering the financial impact on Kaiser Permanente and their bottom line, I can only assume they did it for publicity sake. The physicians here have given fertility treatments a bad name. There has to be discretion in assisting "childless or infertile couples" to bear children. I don't even want to get started on the "couple" part. Fourteen children are now brought into the world purposely fatherless. Its already tragic when families split up because of death or divorce, but to purposely deprive children of a father to satisfy one's own selfish need is outrageous.

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I think it is time for Alana and Inger to learn that Affirmative Action and Politically Correct Speech are both dead now we have a black man in the White's House. The First Amendment of the United States Constitution guarantees I can say whatever I want even IF you personally take offense to the absolute truth. This woman needs to stop in her tracks and realize that she has offended other people around her who do not want to pay for the years of therapy for that litter she whelped. There was absolutely no ethical reason for anyone to make that many children without a father to shoulder the burden with her.

The idiot who helped her to fertilize those eggs of hers needs to bear ALL the costs of their entire needs so I do not have to do so. Kaiser Permanente needs to decide it is a profitable business until it loses business due to its unethical behavior in this matter and you better believe it, just because you get offended for your old man does not require me to stop stating the truth.

Soooooo, grow up why don't you. Do you think those kids need to be raised in a litter like that?

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By-the-way, this woman is sick, sick, sick. She needs some psychotrophic drugs and fast.

I read that she had confided to a friend that she was being paid to rent out her uterus for the production of those children of hers. I have heard of women and men who rent out their anal and vaginal cavities, we call them prostitutes. So, I guess, if you rent our your uterus, you are also a prostitute, you have just allowed another person to use your body for payment.

She needs mental health help and fast. Her mother has declared her independence from this insane female and now maybe the State Children's Protective Services will relieve the woman of those 14 burdens and scatter them into all kinds of homes and adopt them out to loving parents who won't raise them in a litter formation.

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I'm almost certain these babies were not conceived with IVF, as they typically only transfer 2 - 4 embryos. (And 4 only if they are not good quality, and thus, less likely to survive.)

Regarding the word "implanted" used by the grandmother - You don't "implant" embryos in IVF, you transfer them. Then they do or don't impant in the uterine wall and grow, just like any other embryo.

I suspect they did intrauterine insemination (IUI) as we know a sperm donor was use (not the same thing as an "absent father") after treatment with clomid or, more likely (to get that many eggs) injectible fertility drugs.

All that said, I don't know what fertility doctor would a> take on a patient who already has so many kids and especially b> go forward with the IUI when she had so many eggs maturing.

For example - When I was doing IUIs, my doctor said she would not inseminate if I had more than 4 eggs ready to drop - and was only ok with that many because I was 40 and had already had unsuccessful IUIs, so we knew there wasn't much chance of getting them all fertilized/implanted successfully. (Didn't get any.)

When I did IVF, we transferred 2 embryos, but if we'd not had 2 really good quality ones, might have transferred 3 iffy ones.

(And we got one great baby - she's 3 months old now!)

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Eileen, you completely missed the point of what I was saying. Completely.

Yes, you have a right to your opinion, just as I do to mine. And we are in agreement on several points. We should not have to pay for a single mother decided she should have 14 kids. That is just a really really really bad idea. If there was some legal way to prevent her from conceiving again, I would be all for it.

My issue was the insinuation (or 'absolute truth,' I guess you were calling it) that because her father was from Iraq, that she was automatically 1) Muslim and 2) A terrorist. That's not what this article was about. It was about a women making very poor choices that I believe will lead to a life of difficulty for every single one of those children. But when people start throwing the label of terrorist around, well, that just irks the heck out of me to put it nicely. This is not about being PC, or affirmative action (which I am against thank you very much). It's about sticking to the issues and discussing the relevant matters. Period.

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I think that if this was a riched single woman who had all these children I think the media would have supported her 100%, but because she is a single woman whose PARENTS filed BANKRUPTCY NOT HER it's a crime that she has all these children. I think all of us should praise her for just going through with her pregancy. The anti-abortion american people and the media would have been mad if she would have ABORTED some of the fetus in early pregancy. Then she would have been a murdered for killing her babies.
So it looks to me she damn either way with the media and you american people that thinks they have the right to judge her.
Did you ever think that they have friends and relatives that could help out with all the new babies. Think of it this way she is the second time this has happen in the United States & this is the first set all died. These babies are all alive and only one is still receiving oxygen.
1.) How do you know these children will have medical problems, are you all DOCTORS??

2.) WHY DONT YOU HELP HER INSTEAD OF CONDEMNING HER?

3.) WHY DOESN'T SHE GET TO RECEIVED DONATIONS FROM BUSINESSES FOR THE BIRTH OF THESE 8 BABIES?

SHE MUST BE A GOOD MOM BECAUSE SHE HAS 5 OTHERS AND THERE STILL HOME.

I was taught many years ago by my mom:
"IF YOU CAN'T SAY SOMETHING NICE THEN DON'T SAY NOTHING AT ALL "..........

KEEP YOUR NOSE OUT OF IT.......

For those of you that think the children should be taken away & given to other families that want children.

WOULD THIS BE OK IF THESE WERE YOUR 8 BABIES????

BONNIE

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If she's on public assistance how the hell did she afford the in-vitro in the first place? I can barely afford to take my kids to the doctor even with insurance, and my husband and I both make pretty good money. Why? Because of this sort of asinine bulls**t. Yes, America is a free country all right. That freedom has been utterly misused to the point that the only people who are truly "FREE" are the ones who don't have or care to have anything. And why should they? If they were to actually go to WORK they wouldn't qualify to have everything given to them for free. This system is all jacked up, and because of people like this asshat, we're all going to suffer.

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I just wanted to send out a prayer to the mother, the children, grandparents, and all the people commenting on this situation. We all have made decisions that others have felt was their right to judge. But we managed to overcome them and grow through our experience. No matter how many, nor our abilty to care for them, nor taxpayers' willingness to pay, children are still a blessing to behold. I wish all the very best. God bless humanity.

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I CONSIDER MYSELF AND FAIRLY INTELLIGENT PERSON, BUT THIS MAKES NO SENSE TO ME. ALL THE WAY FROM THE MOTHER, THE GRANDPARENTS AND THE DOCTOR OR CLINIC WHO SUPERVISED THIS PROCEDURE.....I KEEP THINKING THERE HAS TO BE MORE TO THIS STORY THAN IS BEING TOLD....I THANK GOD ALL THE BABIES ARE DOING WELL. BUT MY HEART GOES OUT TO THEM AND THE OTHER SMALL CHILDREN THAT SHE ALREADY HAD. AS TINY TIM SAID, "GOD BLESS US ALL"

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