Octuplets' Mom has "Breeding Disorder"

Do you really think this woman asks her parents' permission before getting pregnant? Exactly how do you think they "should have stepped in"? When your kids are in their 30s, let's see how often you "step in" regarding their life choices.

I also suspect that nobody expected eight kids to result from this. Maybe a couple, four if it was a miracle, but eight? The odds are so high, I'm sure it was a surprise to the mom herself. Now if she had the more likely result of twins or triplets, few people would be having a big hissy right now. Really, I love the way people are talking like this woman realistically had the power to determine that she would give birth to eight live children. There's a reason why she's the first.

I have a great idea. Since everyone is so up in arms about this, let's use it as a springboard to make two laws:

1) No creation of embryos that are not fully intended to be implanted and result in live, healthy births to small families;

2) No government aid to children of unwed mothers.

Seems like that would prevent this highly unpopular event from ever happening again, without discriminating against any individuals nor destroying (aborting) embryos. I'm sure everyone here will vote for these laws, based on the comments I've seen.

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As a mother of triplets, this whole story astonishes me. The doctor was unbelievable irresponsible. Fertility guidelines themselves state that a woman this age should not have been given more than two eggs. There is no way that this lady will be able to financially support herself or these children and now this becomes the financial responsibity of our society. Her anwser to this is to come back after her decision and decide to use TV and "I am a great parent advice" to make her rich!!! This is shameful and absurd!! I, for one, have no desire to watch anything this woman has to say. It is wrong that we reward peoples wrong decisions and devastating life choices by making them rich!! I believe the doctor that took part in this should certainly have some financial responsiblity in this and making sure those children receive the successes they deserve in life but this woman deserves a serious reality check.

One comment on the viability of her having all eight, though I know that the odds of having all eight are not very high (and let me add, those odds are higher than they tell you when you go in or you read about), all 6 children that she had previously, 4 singletons and twins, were concieved through fertility so any doctor looking at her statistical success rate on these treatments and the fact that she just wanted "one more little girl", could see that there was a pretty safe bet that if two eggs were implanted, it was probably going to take.

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SKL - Octo-Mom and kids LIVE WITH her parents. If it's happening under their roof, they have a say. That say may only be, "No more or you're out," but they do have a say.

Other countries limit the number of implanted embryos to 3 or 4 per procedure. I would be surprised indeed if we don't follow suit someday soon.

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One question has not been asked: Who were the sperm donors? The woman has no husband, so who provided the sperm for the good doctor to do his thing? Was the doctor the donor? Is each child's biological father different? What in the hell is going on here? What sort of travesty has been perpetrated on these innocent child victims? There needs to be an in depth investigation of this crime and the pervs who engineered the gig should go to jail. The woman who does not have a job, should be made to pay all expenses related to her crime. And the children should be put up for adoption. She is is an unfit mother and an idiot.

Louis

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Only in America! A woman that age with all her previous pregnancies coming from using a fertility clinic and has no visible means to support more kids, gets a doctor to put EIGHT, count 'em EIGHT embryos in the oven. I have used this technique three times. We put three in, got none. Put three more in, got one. Put three more in, got twins. NEVER would I have been allowed to put more in by my very responsible doctor. Total cost: about $55 grand. Who paid for this woman's drugs and procedure? Who the heck would impregnate a single mother of SIX kids!!!! This is insanity!! Doctor shoulf be stripped of his license, mom should have all eight put up for adoption. and she had better not be on my, er, public assistance!!!!!!!

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Sounds like the good doctor was running a test lab of his own.

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tnbrat 76 said, "It is wrong that we reward peoples' wrong decisions and devastating life choices by making them rich" Hello? can you say, "Hollywood" we've developed a whole superculture of people by "rewarding their wrong decisions and devastating life choices by making them rich!" Their talent is acting, hers is popping out kids...

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As to the comment that asked what her parents could have done THEY COULD HAVE STOPPED SUPPORTING HER. Many of the articles I have seen have indicated that she relies on their financial assistance. Maybe they should have not bought her a house (and in doing so lost their own), provided her with money etc. It's called tough love. Maybe if she had to provide ON HER OWN for the six children she already had she would have been to busy to go out and have eight more.
I do not believe in no goverment aid to unwed mothers that's ridiculous but we should stop rewarding people who do nothing but get pregnant and contribute in no rewarding way to the rest of society. I wish a politician could come up with a plan that provided for the children (the truly innocent victims in this) and forced these parents (and I use that term very loosely) to atone and take some responsibility.

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My youngest sister suffers from breeding disorder. She has four kids that are all teenagers now. Her ex-husband was a good man. When they met she already had the two oldest kids and he treats them like his own to this day. As soon as her current infant became independant walking and eating table food she'd always get pregnant. She has the same sense of entitlement as this woman.. hardly ever worked gets mad food stamps etc...the sad thing is that once the kids began to get older and require time for homework help began etc she couldn't handle them and would require junkets to the local psych ward to decompress paid for by medicaid of course.

We sort of ganged up on her after the birth of her last one and made her get her tubes tied before her episiotomy healed because she was talking about having three or four more. I don't think that she would have ever stopped. It's a compulsion just like crack. As far as no govt. aid for single unwed moms what are you going to do with the kids? And as far as the father of the octuplets it's the same for all fourteen kids a friend donated sperm to her years ago. She says that she is encouraging him to be a part of the children's lives but I don't believe that this is what he signed up for a donor is just that a donor.

Just in the short time that she spoke with Ann Curry you can tell that she's not all there so why couldn't a doctor see this whoever implanted those embryos should have his ass kicked.

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Octuplets Mom

http://bikerbernie.wordpress.com/2009/02/06/octuplets-mom/

It seems that Nadya Suleman is less interested in the children’s welfare and more interested in THE welfare. It does not matter how she gets her money if she has 14 kids and is using everyone else’s money to have them so she can go to school and never work, this is dead D wrong. Maybe my wife and I should quit our jobs and then my wife and I can have the big family we wanted. We only have three kids and could not afford any more. Why should a person like Nadya Suleman be able to use your and my money to have more children than a two job family can? Where did se get the money for the IVF? It better not have come from my taxes. If it did then I want my cut that I did not use. If she is not working she should not be able to use your and my money to have eight more babies when she already had six. I am so tired of this crap.

It does not matter if she literally receives money from welfare or from some free ride that she gets through her and her doctors irresponsibility in having 14 kids including any help that she may receive by celebrities starting her off on a parenting show.

Anyone who supports what she did (in my opinion using children to become rich and infamous) is reprehensible.

Fourteen kids or not she this does not make her an expert at anything except exploitation of children. How is she going to get a show on parenting when all her children are under 8 years old?

Boy is she in for a surprise when they turn into teens, start dating, etc. She has A LOT more to learn yet.

Of course what kind of parent is she going to make if she could not make a life and death decision? Her indecision was a decision that risked her health and lives the octuplets health and life and her other 6 children at home. What if she died because she could not make a decision about 8 fetuses that could be harmful to all concerned?

I hope these doctors go under review!

I hope it is investigated where this money came from.

I will not tell anyone that they cannot have a child but I will tell them that they will only receive assistance from other peoples money for ONE and ONLY one child (unless the parent has twins or greater NATURALLY!). There are many good and decent parents out there that chose not to have more children because they cannot afford them. This shows responsibility. A person who is single and does not work has no right using other people’s money to have fourteen (14).

We have to pass legislation stating such or we are actually creating a world in which “Idiocracy” (2006) will become a reality.

b

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Didn't surprise me at all the Nadya Suleman was receiving Welfare. This woman is 33 years old and mommy and daddy and the state of California pay all her bills.

Nadya has been additionally receiving disability payments since 1999 (for a work related injury) and though she’d been deemed completely unable to work, she’d felt well enough to undergo arduous IVF treatments and have 14 children in the interim. Doctors had actually advised her not to get pregnant since this would worsen her supposed back condition, but did she listen? If her back condition had really been that painful and disabling (as she’d claimed back in 2001 when she told a workers comp. judge that her condition relegated her to bed all day) I’d think that she wouldn’t have been able to endure 6 pregnancies (including twins and octuplets) at all.

This woman knows how to work the system which may pay off when she soon needs to feed 14 children under the age of eight. The problem is, what kind of homelife will all these children have while growing up during the next 18 years or so?

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Unfortunately this woman has figured out how to use her parents' love for their grandchildren to get what she wants. Much like certain members of my own family, she knows that they love the children so much that they will continue to give her whatever she asks for thinking that it is in the best interest of the grandchildren. Even if in their hearts they know she is dragging them down with her, they are so worried that saying no to her will somehow harm the children that they allow her to keep draining them of all their financial and emotional will. I believe she is a manipulator who wanted what she wanted no matter if she didn't have her own money to get it and no matter how her decisions affect her mother, father and each of her 14 children.

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As a divorced mother of two I work two jobs to support my family! All because the government told me I made a hundred dollars a year to much for help. Now this single mom who has six kids decides she wants more kids so she goes out and gets herself an IVF. Now 14 kids later she has no money no husband and no home of her own and she gets all this publicity... Another reality show in the making.. Hmm the only reality show I'd like to see come of this is how the government comes in and takes all 14 of her kids!!!!

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This is not an issue about a single mom. This is an issue of moral and ethical responsibility. Let's keep this clear: the "mom" had a responsbility to provide for the children that she already had before even attempting to bring more children into the world.

The doctor(s) involved with her IVF had a responsibility to act with their patient's best interests, which includes a mindful consideration of that patient's current maternal and economic responsbilities.

She should not have been implanted with one single fertilized egg further to the number of children she already had. This "mom" can not say that she will provide for the kids in the future. She needs to provide for these kids now. This "mom" can not say that she gives her children love when her ability to provide them with food and shelter is completely contingent upon receiving limited federal, state, and family resources. At any point, any one of these things can be removed and how would she then provide for her children.

California CPS or social services should consider removing her new children or current children to foster homes until she can demonstrate psychological and financial well-being.

She can raise any number of children as a single parent if she had the means to do it. She clearly does not have the means.

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