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Jon and Kate Gosselin File For Divorce
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For at least 34 more episodes. This season.
It's hard to snark about this most recent episode of "Jon & Kate Plus 8," because honestly, the couple just seems so unhappy, both about their marriage and about having to talk to the cameras about their marriage.
The episode was wrenching, honestly. It was genuinely hard to watch.
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Rumors are swirling about Jon and Kate Gosselin's marriage. Is it over? Or is this just the stuff of reality TV? It's hard to know what's true, but it's even harder to look away.
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Do you ever wonder what life would be like if you had one more child? How about two more? How about SIX more?
Four years ago, Jon and Kate Gosselin went from being parents of two to parents of eight, and their lives have never been the same.
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Today we all have a window into that life on TLC's Jon and Kate Plus 8. And of course, part of peeking into someone else's life is hypothesizing how we might do things differently or better, because it's always easy to imagine what you would do in someone else's shoes.
What is harder to imagine is what it would really be like to walk in those other shoes -- what's it like to wake up every morning and be Kate Gosselin? ParentDish had a chance to ask her just that recently.
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In a normal week, the Gosselins have a television crew in their house about half the time, which is a lot, if you think about it. And while they will occasionally opt out of filming specific moments with their kids, the Gosselins have no editorial control over the show -- what you see is what you get, packaged by a team of folks at Discovery and TLC. But, Kate says, this is reality TV, and it accurately reflects life at the Gosselin house; nothing is pre-planned or made up. "We don't have time to memorize scripts," she jokes.
I believe that.
"We set out to show the truth," Kate says, "I couldn't watch it if it weren't true." What you see, in every televised moment, is precisely what is happening -- no stage directions or do-overs. This is life at the Gosselin house.
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Kate Gosselin has gotten quite a bit of flak, both from the media and from viewers, for the way she treats her husband; the two are often shown bickering during the show. Kate says the criticisms don't bother her; she doesn't Google herself or make a practice of reading about herself on or off line. "Everyone has an opinion," she says, "and I'm only paying attention to my own." But she does admit that the way the show is edited affects how people see her family and her marriage. "If Jon and I have three spats over a two day period, they're going to edit it to make it look like those happened in the 22 minute period." The show is just a small slice of her family's life, after all.
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Kate is clearly focused not on what goes on outside her family but on her children. Her goal, she says, is to treat each child like an only child -- a hard thing to do when you're the mom of eight. "I hold myself to a very high standard," she says. At the same time, though, she's not trying to be perfect, or even to appear perfect to viewers of the show. She's just living her life.
And yes, she's living it with television cameras in her house, but it's still her real life. Kate says that while the experience of being on television has changed her life, it hasn't changed who she is. She says the same about having eight children -- "It's hard to live through what we have lived through and not change. We are the same -- it's how people treat us" that is different.
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One of the hardest things about her family, Kate says, is the noise; there are days when the older girls, Cara and Mady, come home from school and their reports about what they have done are drowned out by the noise of the sextuplets. More than anything, she says, she longs for peace and quiet -- otherwise, she would not change a thing about her life.
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Kate finds the humor in her life -- recently, she partnered with P&G to help promote some of their brands, including Bounty paper towels, which she refers to as "my weapon of choice." She also laughs about the end of nap time at the Gosselin house; the sextuplets are four now and no one, Kate says, naps any more. But it's a rare night that the family gets through dinner without someone dozing off at the table. Recently, Jon said, "I think we can kiss goodbye ever having a family dinner again." A good night, Kate said, is when the kids push their plates out of the way before they fall asleep.
You have to laugh about that, and Kate Gosselin does.
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The Gosselins have a strong faith in God; they are often seen on the show wearing t-shirts with scripture on them and attending church. But despite the fact that the show doesn't highlight their faith, the Gosselins see it as an opportunity to share what they believe. Their website, The Gosselin 10, includes prayers and devotionals, and Jon and Kate travel around speaking to various churches and groups about their life and faith. The show, Kate says, has given them this opportunity to share what they believe.
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And for the Gosselins, being on television is about opportunity, not fame. The show has opened a variety of doors for them; Kate and Jon both work from home, which makes their life as parnents of eight more manageable. But it's not easy by any means -- there are days, Kate says, when she and Jon work until midnight.
Kate has three pieces of advice for other parents. "Every morning, before my feet hit the floor," she says, "I pray for strength, just enough to get through that day." She reminds parents that a sense of humor can get you through nearly everything -- laugh, she says, don't cry. And finally, the most important lesson of all: "Always remember that bedtime comes, every single day."
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The original episode, the one scheduled to run tonight, followed the delivery of a set of playhouses for the kids. Of course, these aren't any old playhouses; they're "crooked houses," specially designed to look like they were built by children. The Gosselins take delivery of four of the houses, one for each of the twins, and two for the little kids to share (one for the girls and one for the boys). The houses are darling and the kids love them. But before the happy playtime starts, Jon and Kate have to get through the delivery and assembly. No, they don't manage this themselves; a team arrives with the houses and takes care of building them. But there's a disagreement about where they houses will go, which should be one of those simple, straightforward things but isn't, because nothing is simple or straightforward any more.
In the second half hour, the one created to house the Gosselin's big announcement, Jon and Kate confront the cameras and the rumors. "So Jon," an off camera voice asks, "how's it goin'?"
"It's been so stressful," Gosselin says, frowning. "I mean, thank God we have the show, so we can tell what we want to tell. People just tell what they want anyway."
"This is the hardest episode ever," Jon says. "I'm two hours late to shoot cause I had reservations about doing it, cause I didn't know what to say ... We have soldiers over in Iraq dying for our country and all these people care about is like, what I eat for lunch."
Throughout the interview, Jon seems defiant, announcing, "I finally stood up on my own two feet and I'm proud of myself." Kate, on the other hand, seems more fragile than we have ever seen her; she sits in the very center of the interview chair, with her hands folded in her lap, carefully choosing every single word. She is clearly more unsettled by this turn of events than Jon is, more devastated by their inability to make this work out. Kate describes the failure of her marriage as a "slow progression," saying, "We've been dealing a long time with this." But even having a long time to deal with it hasn't made it any easier for her, clearly.
It's clear in their delivery: When the off-camera producer asks Jon to speak to what comes next, he takes a breath to collect himself and then quickly announces, "Kate and I have decided to separate," without any hesitation. Kate, on the other hand, stumbles: "We, ah, have ... decided, um, that we will separate ..."
And then comes the nitty gritty of custody: The children will continue to live, full time, in the house; Kate and Jon will take turns living in the house with the kids. And the show? The show will continue, with crews filming the couple separately with the children, in the same way that they will now live their lives with the children. Both Jon and Kate seem a little stunned by the idea that they will not be with their kids every day, which is perhaps the most wrenching part -- not just for the Gosselins but for every couple who goes through a separation or divorce. Kate admits that she is worried by the fact that her kids will look back and say, "My parents split up when I was, fill in the blank age." She also confesses, "I don't want to do this alone."
Jon is looking forward, though. "I might get offered a job," he says when he's asked about how the filming schedule will work going forward. "I have a new chapter in my life, I'm only 32 years old," he says.
And if you're not already weepy at the thought of those cute cute kids facing a divorce, TLC gets you with footage from times when the Gosselins were a happy family. Because nothing is worse when you're looking at a difficult future than looking back at the happy past.
In the end, Jon and Kate just seem like normal people facing a divorce. They both talk, sincerely, about how this will affect the kids, and they both seem to understand that this will be wrenching for them; they also both appear to have their priorities straight as they move forward. There's been a lot of buzz lately about how the Gosselins had lost whatever it was that viewers identified with -- Kate's soccer mom look, Jon's fun daddy demeanor -- but now they seem to have recaptured something that far too many of us will confront in our marriages and our lives as parents.
We're so sorry that the Gosselins are divorcing; we're sorry they didn't make it.
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ReaderComments (Page 3 of 3)
6-27-2009 @ 12:11PM
MaggieMo said...The judge ought to deny their request for a divorce and tell them that he is requiring counseling for the entire family..... together, separately, marriage, the whole works. They both claim the kids come first. Let them prove it by acting like adults and taking care of THEIR problems without making it the kids' problems. And don't give me that garbage about divorce being better for the kids. That's only true if the parents are physically abusive (one spanking doesn't count), or if neither is mature enough to put the kids before themselves. The Gosselins both say the kids come first....Make them put the money where their mouth is.....literally.
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6-27-2009 @ 5:24PM
Shannon said...So Jon is the immature one? I beg to differ. He didn't want the TV show, the invasion of privacy, or a Hollywood bimbo for a wife. He wanted a secluded, quiet, home filled with lots of kids, love, and serenity. Kate was the one who wanted the money and publicity. Even as the show went on, he didn't change a thing about himself. SHE went completely overboard with plastic surgery, new hairstyles, fancy clothing..and a handsome personal bodyguard who often slept in the same hotel room that she did
I'm happy for Jon. Now he can find a woman who wants to be with him, not every household in America.
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6-27-2009 @ 1:04PM
Kathleen said...I have read all the comments and not one person has asked for prayer for this family, so that is what I am doing right now. Let's all please pray for them.
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6-27-2009 @ 2:02PM
Donna said...I watch Jon & Kate plus 8 since it started... I can tell you that Kate didn't have 8 kids she had 9... Jon was sooooooooooo immature for a man his age...Kate is a fanatic clean freak (which isn't a bad thing) But Jon mocked her about her cleaniness and made fun of her because of her use for coupons...Kate is very frugal and wanted to make sure money wasn't wasted --- I'm sorry for all you people who rag on Kate...Obviously You were not a fan of the show and watched it all the time...IF YOU HAD OF....then you would know how Jon acted......OCC should have NEVER made him a bike...he is too immature for a chopper.....He's a Father of 8 children, and yet he is out messing around with a younger woman....Mark my word that he ends up with her...Jons problem is he wants his cake and eat it too.......As for everyone complaining about Kate having her teeth whitened and her tummy tuck...ALLLLLL of that was done for her to look great on the show...It's no different then any other Actress has done... She's a Beautiful woman with a heart of gold and she will do anything for her children....Kudos to You Kate....I will always be a true fan............
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6-27-2009 @ 3:03PM
mickey said...Additionally, I would like to say that what a lot of people thought was controlling on Kate's part was trying to bring this playboy (Jon) back to earth.
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6-27-2009 @ 3:15PM
mickey said...I see my previous to the last post didn't go through, for some reason,and as it was long, can't rewrite right now. I did say one thing: now that Jon has time on his hands,maybe he could go back to school, and as Kate is a nurse maybe she could volunteer a bit if she has time, as this country is sadly in need of nurses - also said kudos to Donna and Kendra,
6-28-2009 @ 8:57AM
Deanna said...I really lost respect for Jon when he made the statement that he was only 32 Years old and it was time for him to get on with his life. Please, did he just relizes his age? In an earier show he made it very clear that it was totally Kates idea to get pregant the second time and that he was completly happy with just the twins. How are the younger kids going to feel when they are old enough to understand that daddy didn't want them as much as mom did?
I really believe that just like the immature brat that he is, he got tired of trying to act grown up and now he wants different toys to play with.
I wish Kate the best, because she is going to be the one to pick up the pieces and cope with raising these children.
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6-29-2009 @ 12:45PM
soulcage said...Yes, Donna, I did watch the program, enough to see the disintigration of their relationship.
So what, "Jon admitted to having female friends". Where is it written in the marriage vows that one can't have friends of the opposite sex? Or in ANY relationship for that matter? It is an immature and insecure person who feels threatened by opposite gendered friends of their partner.
I also remember Jon saying that when they married, Kate wanted children right away and he wanted to wait, he wasn't ready. He acquiesced. She got her way. After the twins, Kate wanted to do it again. Jon didn't want more. He acquiesced again. Kate ended up having six more children instead of the "third" child she wanted.
What this goes back to is the fact that most women who want children will do what ever they want to have their way, including being deceptive about birth control. The men in their lives go along to get along while any objection they might have gets tossed aside. The notion is that men should just accept it lock, stock and barrel. Be a man, be responsible.
Fact: the one with the womb controls everything. If a woman gets pregnant, it's going to be her choice ultimately. Worse case scenario is she raises the kids alone and dad gets to shell out child support for the duration. Best case scenario: He's thrilled to death, ready,willing, able and up for the adventure.
I watched Jon with his kids early on. I thought he was doing a great job. It wasn't until later on when the belittling started, Kate criticising Jon for "not doing it right" (how many times do I hear that out of the mouths of women). Heck, she even criticised him for BREATHING too loud. If Jon would have been doing the same thing to Kate, you'd all be yelling ABUSE. Yet, it's ok if the woman does it, right? She's just trying to get him to grow up and be a man.
Well, here's the rub. A HUGE problem that women do not seem to see in THEMSELVES is that when women choose mates they don't accept them totally with all their foibles. The notion is to "change him , to get him to "come around", and this is the biggest mistake women make in choosing partners. You cannot go into a relationship believing that you will polish this diamond in the rough, improve him, make him a better man with your, undoubtably undeniable expert intervention and manipulation. For the most part, it just doesn't work. What women get is a resistant, resentful man who wants to do even less to please you. Change comes from within, not from without. And if you really want to change someone else's behavior, then you need to CHANGE YOUR OWN FIRST.
It all goes to a woman's choice of the right mate in the first place. If you don't like the way he dresses, you buy him clothes you think they'll look good in. If you don't like his manners, you start instructing him. If you don't like his hair cut, you tell him what stylist to go to. If you don't like his friends, you make disparaging remarks about them, and on, and on, ad naseum.
If he says he isn't ready to start a family, you tell him he shouldn't feel that way and secretly plot to "bring him around", or just belly ache about your biological clock ticking.
Women need to be smarter about the men they chose to have in their lives as mates. They need to have open, honest discussions about family, finances, children and discipline....then LISTEN and take heed to men when they say "I'm not ready".
If there is even ONE red flag about a potential mate, then walk away until you find what you really need. But the fact is that no one is perfect. Every one has faults. You either accept them or you move on. You don't try to "change" them no matter your good intentions.
Kate made her own bed when she chose to go after Jon. Jon was honest with her about not being ready for a family (and many men would agree that they want to enjoy the relationship immediately after marriage as opposed to jumping into having babies). He was honest when, after the twins, he said he didn't want to have more kids. Kate got her way, Jon jumped in and did what he could with much sarcasm and criticism from Kate. Its clear he loves those kids regardless of her power mongering within their relationship.
Again, watching the disintigration of their relationship over time only revealed the nature of abuse that exists between them, predominantly at the hands of Kate toward Jon. How long should someone live under that kind of cloud of obvious hatred? Would you?
You can watch every stinking re-run of every episode you like, but it still doesn't make you or anyone else an expert on their personal relationship and the events that got them where they are today.
To date, no alleged infidelity has been admitted or proven of either Jon or Kate.
Fact is this show needs to go away. Fact is that people need to get away from the tv "reality" shows and focus on their OWN lives and families. There's a whole lot of REAL LIFE out there...and it's your own.
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