Consumer Reports Issues Warning On Orbit Stroller-Car Seat; Orbit Fights Back
Categories: Babies, Toddlers, In The News, Alerts & Recalls
Consumer Reports has issued a "Don't Buy: Safety Risk" warning on the Orbit Infant System, a popular convertible car seat. Orbit disagrees.
Tests were conducted on the Orbit Infant System and two similar products, the Graco Stylus and Eddie Bauer Adventurer, according to a press release issued by Consumer Reports. The Orbit separated from its base in two out of six tests and the other two products did not separate at all. Consumer Reports points out that when the car seat was tested without the base, there were no problems.
The Orbit Infant System failed a Consumer Reports safety test. Credit: Consumer Reports
In an interview with ParentDish, David Champion, Deputy Technical Director for Automotive Products at Consumers Union (the non-profit that publishes Consumer Reports), said that Orbit's claim is "untrue."
"We followed the instruction manuals [and] the protocols exactly to the letter," he told us. When Consumers Union shared their test results with Orbit, Orbit did its own tests in the same lab with the same testing dummy, but, "they ran five of their eight tests with the belt installed in the middle position for the biggest baby you can put in there, which doesn't make sense to us."
Why not?
"In the instructions, they say that the belt should be at or slightly below a child's shoulders," Champion said. After seeing the test results from Consumer Reports, "they're suggesting that the seat belt should be in the middle position, which is not what their documentation says. We followed their instructions to the letter. But they didn't."
Responding to Champion, Joseph Hei, CEO and co-founder of Orbit Baby, issued the following statement to ParentDish via email:
"We respectfully disagree with Consumer [sic] Union's statement that they followed Orbit Baby's instruction manual. Orbit Baby's technical experts are confident that Consumer [sic] Union's positioning of the shoulder harness at the top slot does not reflect compliance with Orbit Baby's safety instructions, which state that the harness needs to be at or just below the infant's shoulders. In fact, the same testing laboratory used by Consumers Union has repeatedly endorsed the middle slot as the correct slot for Orbit Baby's federal compliance testing. Moreover, Consumer Reports failed to engage Orbit Baby's StrongArm mechanism as directed in the installation instructions. Lastly, even in the video posted on their website on this issue, Consumer Reports mistakenly tell [sic] parents to use the Infant Car Seat off the Base with only one Belt Clip engaged. Our manual clearly calls for using both Belt Clips, and their recommendation represents a safety risk. We are extremely disappointed that Consumers Union chose to provide this misleading testing information, and mistaken usage recommendations, to our consumers."
Mr. Champion reiterated in a follow-up interview that Consumers Union followed Orbit Baby's manual "to the letter" and that Hei's statement regarding the endorsemnt of the middle slot is "incorrect."
Champion also pointed out that, "we had an independent expert look at all of our data," and that expert approved of Consumers Union's methods.
It is important to note that this is not a recall.
"Consumer Reports does not issue recalls. We do tests of products to check how well they perform," said Lauren Hackett, spokesperson for Consumer Reports. "In this case we found a safety risk and we wanted to let consumers know what we found."
Bottom line: Orbit Baby may not be happy with the results, but Consumer Reports stands by their methods.
The Orbit Infant System is a high-end product that sells for $900. It has received praise from celebrities like Tori Spelling, who called the product "the best thing since sliced bread," according to a quote on its testimonials page, as well as Jessica Alba, who was photographed with her child in an Orbit Infant System stroller.
Here is a link to the initial statement from Orbit, which includes a phone number that consumers can call with any concerns. That number is 1-877-672-2229.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
Clarissa 8-28-2009 @ 7:48PM
After watching the video it seems to me that Consumers Report is plugging for Graco for whatever reason. If this is the case who is to say that they are not biased or actually didn't follow to the instructions for the Orbit Baby system.
If your paying $900 for a carseat system you can almost bet that they do extensive testing on their products. They don't want angry consumers to report that they have defective merchandise. Especially when those consumers have paid out a large sum of money to purchase their product.
How many time has a car seat from Orbit been recalled? How many times has a car seat from Graco been recalled?
After having searched the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA).website http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/recalls/recallsearch.cfm the answer to that is as follows:
Orbit- 0 - In fact Orbit was not even on the list.
Graco- 66 - There was 66 items in the list. Of the 5 I clicked on 4 were recalled due to the base.
I think that speaks for it's self.
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Chauntelle 10-22-2009 @ 2:52AM
Clarissa,
I am an orbit baby infant system owner. I have purchased every accessory including an additional base. I have invested close to $2000.00 on the entire system. I was willing to spend the money because my daughter is worth every penny and her safety is a priority.
That being said, I am now on my 4th base and I can assure you, I will not be using it. All 3 bases broke in 3 different places. The 1st base, the back broke off. The 2nd base, the base i had issues with the base latches where my toddler seat wiggled to the point where you could envision instant whiplash and it rotated way beyond what it was supposed to.
When I called Orbit, i was told by customer service that this was "perfectly normal, that is meant to happen and is the design of the
seat". I had a hard time believing it and my instincts told me that no car seat would shake like that. Against my better judgement I trusted them.
Several months later we transfered the car seat to my husbands car. When we put the seat in the base it was snug with minimal rotation. It fit exactly as it should. Basically thanks to Orbits outstanding customer service I was driving my child around in an absolute haphazard.
When I called customer service for the third time, I got the same representative that assured me the base was fine. It was not a good day in customer service.
A third base was sent to me. It was great for 2 months and then tonight I found that once again my base is faulty as one of the base latches spring mechanism has broken and the latch will not come back out. Once again another liability. I may as well have strapped my daughter in her highchair and tied it to the roof of my car.
I am not heavy handed and I take meticulous care of all my belonging and even if I was heavy handed, none of the above should have occured.
I will be calling orbit tomorrow for my fourth base, however at this point, I do not trust the system with my childs life as it clearly could have taken my childs on three separate occassions. I am done with orbit, and after giving them the benifit of doubt, they failed me three times. I am done with orbit. Consumer Reports was dead on with this one.
Katherine 9-03-2009 @ 12:12PM
got an update email from Orbit which had a link to a very detailed page on harness slot positioning. based on the pictures, the top slot positioning doesn't seem to meet the at or below a child's shoulders condition. http://www.orbitbaby.com/why/library/harness_safety.php
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Clarissa 9-05-2009 @ 12:08PM
I think this would depend upon the size of the child. Babies grow rapidly and as such there comes a time when in EVERY car seat the straps aren't going to be in exactly the right position.
You find the one that fits best and know that your child will grow and you will have to change it soon anyhow.