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Reality Check: Kate Gosselin is a Good Mom
by Susan Avery
Kate Gosselin is not crazy for keeping her marriage band on her left ring finger. She is not an emotional basket case for tearing up publicly a few times lately. And she's certainly not a lunatic to check on who's baby-sitting her young children.
Kate is a mother going through a divorce.
With that misery – be it public or private – comes waves of feelings that need time to process. You don't have to be a trained therapist to understand the upheaval involved in a breakup, especially one that involves children. The initial shock of it all feels like you're swimming underwater. You can see, but things seem fuzzy. You can think, but your certainty can't be trusted. You can stand, but you're always wobbly. And you definitely can't breathe.
What you have are your instincts.
That's what Kate went on last month when she came by the house during Jon's time with the kids. The two – of TLC's Jon & Kate Plus Eight – have a custodial agreement worked out, called a bird's nest in matrimonial-court parlance, where the children remain in the family home and the parents take turns living there.
Back in August, Kate found out that someone she didn't know was baby-sitting her children and she went to the home to eyeball the woman. According to reports, Jon wouldn't let her in the house and the police were called. None of this happened in front of the kids and no arrests were made.
Last week on ABC's "The View," Kate was a guest host and she was called on the carpet by Whoopi Goldberg to defend what she did. Her response was honest, responsible and classy. She said she was uncomfortable not knowing who was minding the kids. She also said she was wrong to do it. Never once did she bash Jon.
Granted, in a legal sense, Kate was wrong. But in a maternal sense, she was as right as rain. If a parent has the feeling that something is not kosher, it's that parent's obligation to check it out. No one, including Jon, has accused Kate of going to the house and acting like a raving madwoman. She didn't pull a wacky move like banging down the door with an ax, or bringing camera crews with her, or make a production of it by involving the police. She went there to find out who's in control of her kids.
Control is the keyword here. As the stay-at-home parent who was always in control of her kids, Kate is now going through a very normal withdrawal phase. Her precious brood is now under someone else's care part of the time. We don't know how she found out that a stranger was watching her kids and what lead up to her knocking on the door. I'm going to venture a guess: I'm thinking that she called Jon and he wasn't particularly forthcoming with the information. Or, he offered up the name of the baby sitter and it raised her antennae. Any good mother would be concerned.
Since the court papers are sealed, no one is privy to the custody agreement. But I can almost guarantee this much: There's a provision in there that says something about joint decision-making over the kids lives. If Kate was not part of the decision on choosing that baby sitter, she had every right to check it out. Period.
When news of their divorce hit back in June, Jon said, "This will be a difficult transition for all of us ... We are no different than other couples and parents who are facing a crossroads in their marriage."
Exactly my point. This goes on every day with parents in passage out of their marriages. Let's stop beating up on Kate. She may be a reality-TV mom, but she's also a human being.
Sorry, Kate, This is About The Law, Not Your 'Instincts'
by Tom Henderson
The hardest things to do in a divorce where children are involved is to cut through emotion and deal with reality.
This is especially true when the children are the two people getting divorced.
Listening to reality-show parents Jon and Kate Gosselin snipe at each other, you just want to pull the car over and tell them to forget it. No one gets ice cream today.
These people need to seriously grow up before they can be truly functional parents to their eight children. Kate appeared on ABC's "The View" last week to, among other things, explain why she violated her agreement with Jon by showing up at the house on the day he had custody of the kids. She wanted to know who the new baby sitter was. This made Kate's spider sense tingle. She drove over to the house, she said, and sobbed at the gate. She says she knows she was wrong. She says she learned her lesson.
Not really.
She still maintains a mother must listen to her instincts, that both parents should be equally involved in the hiring of baby sitters. This isn't about her relationship with Jon. Oh, by the way, did she mention he is a no-good %#@?
The facts are, like it or not, you give up a certain amount of control over your children in a divorce. You have to trust that the other parent will make good decisions. As long as the person is not physically or psychologically abusive, butt out.
That applies to hiring baby sitters. Kate never met this woman. She had no reason to feel uneasy other than her "motherly instincts."
Sorry. Not good enough.
If she had serious misgivings, she could have -- should have -- called in outside authorities to investigate.
The fact that she ended up sobbing at the gate proves she was operating on emotion rather than reason. Loving instincts are important. They separate Mary Poppins from Cruella De Vil. However, you don't throw reason out with the bath water.
At some point, you have trust your ex is not going to eat your young. Don't second guess the parent on the front lines. The first commandment of being a noncustodial parent is, "Thou shalt not futz around with the agreement."
You turn over control when you turn over custody. So does your ex. Custody is a matter of law, not instinct.
It's reality. Deal with it.











ReaderComments (Page 3 of 21)
9-24-2009 @ 4:09AM
Noebody61 said...Garry, I bet you voted for Obama.
9-24-2009 @ 3:08PM
B said...I fully agree with you. She likes to control everything. And the twins, they are spoiled.
9-23-2009 @ 9:42PM
royalef said...Methinks, hywibb has issues with men. Just a guess. AND APPARENTLY ISSUES WITH caps lock, TOO.
9-28-2009 @ 12:40PM
jayne said...I THINK KATE IS DOING A WONDERFUL JOB,SHE ALSO THE BREAD WINNER OF THE FAMILY.IF HER CHILDREN ALL GO TO COLLEGE ATLEAST $50,000 A YEAR EACH -ADD THAT UP AND COMES TO A BIG BILL.I LOVE HER FOR KEEPING UP THE HARD WORK SO TOO PROVIDE FOR HER CHILDRENS FUTURE,BECAUSE HER UNEMPLOYED HUSBAND DOES NOT CARE FOR THEM ONLY HOW MANY WOMEN HE CAN GO TO BED WITH(HE WILL GET HIS)SHAME ON HIM HE FATHERS THEM THEN AFTER A FEW YEARS BOWS OUT,. KEEP UP THE WORK KATE YOUR A SUPER MOM. JAYNE
9-23-2009 @ 7:16PM
Royal said...Nobody61 So that would make Kate the bumbling, inarticulate, belicose, glory hound frat boy Bush wanabe and Jon the intelligent, articulate, statesman Obama type ....sounds fair......
and yes I voted for Obama
9-23-2009 @ 2:22PM
Kim said...Jon,
I think you skipped out on your family. You just wanted to have your fun. well you should of thought about it before you had children. You are so wrong it makes me sick. Kate has the right to know who's taking care of her children. Why would you call the police. Jon, if you wasn't hiding anything why wouldn't you just let Kate in the house. Your the one that making like harder on your family. not kate.
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9-23-2009 @ 2:49PM
george said...You should learn some spelling and grammar before posting your comments about something you know nothing about.
9-23-2009 @ 3:30PM
Kathy said...Kate called the police herself because Jon told her it was his time with the kids. The agreement was that she would be gone while he was with the children.
9-23-2009 @ 3:40PM
hywibb said...I think PEOPLE/PSYCHO'S/CRAZYS R FORGETTING THAT JON IS THE ONE WHO'S SO pathetic he has to use every opportunity he gets to THROW KATE UNDER THE BUS & WHINE THAT HE WAS "ABUSED"!!!!He should have his "custody" visitation rights STOPPED IMMEDIATELY. HE'S THE ONLY FAMEWHORE.He uses all these SLOW "GIRLS" just 2 get in bed for a romp. When these kids do get OLD ENOUGH/the only one their going to be ashamed of is Jon.He's made his OPEN SEX ROMPED UP BED & HE CAN ROT IN IT. AT LEAST KATE'S HONEST ENUF & ADMITS SHE'S NOT IN ANY POSITION FOR A MATE/PARTNER AT THIS TIME. And everyone is bashing her? whatever.......................!
9-23-2009 @ 3:48PM
midtowniron.mc said...1st if jon would have went over to her house would u ladies b saying o hs worried about the kids...no...u woulda said u have no right here u r spying on me im calling the police...but u wanna say its ok...no its not i woulda had her put in jail to show u ladies u cant jus do whay u want n think its fine..its a damn shame how a man get blame for shit...when its 50/50..she put him out...what yall say o he got no balls...no i love n we dont want to hear yalls naggin ass mouth for real so we let u do what u want...now u put the man out so dat means u got no more say so..we gonna date party etc...dont get mad and say we not good dads n etc.. u let us go so that means U HAVE NO SAY SO ON SHIT BUT UR SELF...LET IT GO FO GODS SAKE..u know whats thats called when u dog the person u been with...BITTER N JON DONT LOOK BITTER OR HES NOT OUT HERE MILKING THIS UNTILL IT RUNS DRY...I FEEL SORRY FOR THE BABIES BECUZZ THEY LOVE THEY DAD....
9-23-2009 @ 9:42PM
royalef said...Get a clue... it's called a divorce settlement and her bullshit hysterical crying and "my mother's intuition" bullshit is just a cover for her doing wrong. If Jon was outside the house screaming and pounding his fists (since men emotionally act aggressive where women cry when they loose control of their emotions) people in droves would be saying he should go to jail and not have custody. But a woman cries and "aw she's just being a good mommy". She's just teaching her children to be a nut job and show no respect for the law--just do what you "feel" like.
9-24-2009 @ 6:56PM
Russ said...u dumbass it was HIS turn to have the kids wont u women ever learn u dont get your way ever ytime
9-23-2009 @ 6:16PM
Royal said...Obviosly you have been watching this show even less than I have. I am so sick of hyper emotional control freaks like this Kate being hailed as matyrs and victims when people finally get enough of their bullying and melodrama stand up to them. People like this Kate used to be called spoiled brats and now "their strong women or men" standing up for their rights,," Bull....That being said Jon should have grabbed his nads back years ago and left her before he had eight kids to take care of so yes he does bare some of the blame for this stuff.....
9-23-2009 @ 2:32PM
JEAN said...YES, THIS FAMILY IS VERY TROUBLED, BUT THERE IS HOPE FOR THEM ALWAYS. BOTH THESE PARENTS HAVE EXPRESSED THEIR HIDDEN FEELINGS, NOW IT IS TIME FOR HEALING ! IT IS A SHAME THAT THEIR PERSONAL LIVES HAD TO BE AIRED LIKE WASH ON A LINE, LEAVING IT ALL OPEN TO EVERYONE AND THEIR COMMENTS. WE SHOULD ALL PRAY AND HOPE FOR RENEWAL OF THIS FAMILY . THERE ARE MORE LIVES THAN THE TWO OF THEM TO BE CONSIDERED HERE. MANY , TO INCLUDE THESE LITTLE INNOCENT CHILDREN , OF BOTH FAMILIES MUST HAVE SUFFERED A GREAT FEELING OF LOSS HERE. BLESSINGS TO ALL.
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9-23-2009 @ 2:30PM
buddy davis said...first all, who gives a flying leap what jon and kate do?
they've had their 15 minutes and far too more.
please, i beg of you, quit printing anything that has to do with them.
they're the poster children for the celebrity world gone wild.
enough, please.
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9-23-2009 @ 3:34PM
jessica1130 said...Buddy Davis,
Ummm, aren't you printing about the Gosslins on this blog? Just thought I would point that out. And if you "don't give a flying leap" what they do, then why are you posting here???
9-23-2009 @ 4:04PM
Princess said..."first all, who gives a flying leap what jon and kate do?"
YOU do. That's why you bothered to click the link for this article than actually post a comment. If you didn't care you wouldn't be here posting.
9-23-2009 @ 2:31PM
Debi said...It looks like Kate's instincts were right to worry about who Jon chose to babysit their children, since the babysitter has since made public that she and Jon were having sex in the room over the garage while the kids were in the house alone. And why wouldn't Jon let Kate meet who was watching the kids? Because he had something to hide.
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9-23-2009 @ 3:12PM
Karen said...How do you know that it's true? There are people in this world that want to jump on the band wagon. We do not know if she is even telling the truth. Maybe she just wanted some of their lime light!
9-23-2009 @ 2:33PM
bb2 said...Seeing as how Jon is dating a woman with a prior arrest record on drug charges as well as having an affair with the last nanny they had, I don't blame Kate one bit. Bottom line is that Jon's parenting skills are questionable at best, if he is parenting at all. She has every right to know who is in her house and who is having contact with the kids.
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