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Reality Check: Kate Gosselin is a Good Mom
by Susan Avery
Kate Gosselin is not crazy for keeping her marriage band on her left ring finger. She is not an emotional basket case for tearing up publicly a few times lately. And she's certainly not a lunatic to check on who's baby-sitting her young children.
Kate is a mother going through a divorce.
With that misery – be it public or private – comes waves of feelings that need time to process. You don't have to be a trained therapist to understand the upheaval involved in a breakup, especially one that involves children. The initial shock of it all feels like you're swimming underwater. You can see, but things seem fuzzy. You can think, but your certainty can't be trusted. You can stand, but you're always wobbly. And you definitely can't breathe.
What you have are your instincts.
That's what Kate went on last month when she came by the house during Jon's time with the kids. The two – of TLC's Jon & Kate Plus Eight – have a custodial agreement worked out, called a bird's nest in matrimonial-court parlance, where the children remain in the family home and the parents take turns living there.
Back in August, Kate found out that someone she didn't know was baby-sitting her children and she went to the home to eyeball the woman. According to reports, Jon wouldn't let her in the house and the police were called. None of this happened in front of the kids and no arrests were made.
Last week on ABC's "The View," Kate was a guest host and she was called on the carpet by Whoopi Goldberg to defend what she did. Her response was honest, responsible and classy. She said she was uncomfortable not knowing who was minding the kids. She also said she was wrong to do it. Never once did she bash Jon.
Granted, in a legal sense, Kate was wrong. But in a maternal sense, she was as right as rain. If a parent has the feeling that something is not kosher, it's that parent's obligation to check it out. No one, including Jon, has accused Kate of going to the house and acting like a raving madwoman. She didn't pull a wacky move like banging down the door with an ax, or bringing camera crews with her, or make a production of it by involving the police. She went there to find out who's in control of her kids.
Control is the keyword here. As the stay-at-home parent who was always in control of her kids, Kate is now going through a very normal withdrawal phase. Her precious brood is now under someone else's care part of the time. We don't know how she found out that a stranger was watching her kids and what lead up to her knocking on the door. I'm going to venture a guess: I'm thinking that she called Jon and he wasn't particularly forthcoming with the information. Or, he offered up the name of the baby sitter and it raised her antennae. Any good mother would be concerned.
Since the court papers are sealed, no one is privy to the custody agreement. But I can almost guarantee this much: There's a provision in there that says something about joint decision-making over the kids lives. If Kate was not part of the decision on choosing that baby sitter, she had every right to check it out. Period.
When news of their divorce hit back in June, Jon said, "This will be a difficult transition for all of us ... We are no different than other couples and parents who are facing a crossroads in their marriage."
Exactly my point. This goes on every day with parents in passage out of their marriages. Let's stop beating up on Kate. She may be a reality-TV mom, but she's also a human being.
Sorry, Kate, This is About The Law, Not Your 'Instincts'
by Tom Henderson
The hardest things to do in a divorce where children are involved is to cut through emotion and deal with reality.
This is especially true when the children are the two people getting divorced.
Listening to reality-show parents Jon and Kate Gosselin snipe at each other, you just want to pull the car over and tell them to forget it. No one gets ice cream today.
These people need to seriously grow up before they can be truly functional parents to their eight children. Kate appeared on ABC's "The View" last week to, among other things, explain why she violated her agreement with Jon by showing up at the house on the day he had custody of the kids. She wanted to know who the new baby sitter was. This made Kate's spider sense tingle. She drove over to the house, she said, and sobbed at the gate. She says she knows she was wrong. She says she learned her lesson.
Not really.
She still maintains a mother must listen to her instincts, that both parents should be equally involved in the hiring of baby sitters. This isn't about her relationship with Jon. Oh, by the way, did she mention he is a no-good %#@?
The facts are, like it or not, you give up a certain amount of control over your children in a divorce. You have to trust that the other parent will make good decisions. As long as the person is not physically or psychologically abusive, butt out.
That applies to hiring baby sitters. Kate never met this woman. She had no reason to feel uneasy other than her "motherly instincts."
Sorry. Not good enough.
If she had serious misgivings, she could have -- should have -- called in outside authorities to investigate.
The fact that she ended up sobbing at the gate proves she was operating on emotion rather than reason. Loving instincts are important. They separate Mary Poppins from Cruella De Vil. However, you don't throw reason out with the bath water.
At some point, you have trust your ex is not going to eat your young. Don't second guess the parent on the front lines. The first commandment of being a noncustodial parent is, "Thou shalt not futz around with the agreement."
You turn over control when you turn over custody. So does your ex. Custody is a matter of law, not instinct.
It's reality. Deal with it.












ReaderComments (Page 5 of 21)
9-23-2009 @ 3:01PM
melanie slocum said...I have been watching jon and kate plus eight since she was pregnant...she always was bossing jon around and telling him what to do and how to do it///she would tell him to quit acting like a little boy and do as she told him /i think she enjoyed the power///this went on in front of the cameras, imagine what went on behind them/////she is a control freak
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9-23-2009 @ 3:01PM
PR said...Considering the type of skanks Jon has been hanging around with lately and the fact he seems to have lost all sense of decency, I would have done the same thing kate did when she felt uneasy about who was in the house with her & Jon's kids. Better to have a little embarrassment and try to make sure your kids are safe, rather than something horrible potentially happening because of Jon's lack of judgment. I mean seriously, Jon is acting like a school boy and basically sleeping with anything that has a pulse, so who knows who he'd take home and trust in his house.
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9-23-2009 @ 3:02PM
chill40270 said...So for all this attention they are both getting, how much money is involved?
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9-23-2009 @ 3:06PM
Kim said...Jon is a loser!
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9-23-2009 @ 3:05PM
VMV1551 said...Let's not forget that these are not ordinary children. They are children that have been aired on a reality show since birth and are in need of bodyguards when out in public. Jon doesn't strike me as the sharpest guy when it comes to his children s needs. He seems very wrapped in his own wants and probably could be easily fooled by a young pretty face with deceitful intentions (kidnapping). Or a bimbo that is too busy showering her attention on Jon (the money man) rather than the eight children, leaving one of them wide open for someone else to grab. Kate has every right in the world to know exactly who her children are being watched by at all times.
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9-23-2009 @ 3:09PM
Frankie said...Im a divorced mom of 2 and can only imagine what this family is going through with everything being so public. But, what I do see is that Jon is acting like a horny teenager instead of a grown man with 8 children to raise. Weither you like Kate or not, you have to agree that she is the one acting like an adult. She's not bashing Jon and if she is seeing someone she is keeping it private. But Jon on the other hand is parading around and throwing insults at Kate any chance he gets. He is not thinking what all of this will do to his children. They might not hear about it now but they will eventually. The children are the innocent ones in all of this.
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9-23-2009 @ 3:07PM
RachelB said...Having so many children is stressful-then filming your life-more stress.
It's a miracle it lasted this long. It has turned her into a control freak-someone has to, and he had no role in the home-he did not make one.
Therefore, unless he obtained outside employment-so he had his own identity, he was tied to hers, which he resented.
The best remedy is to end the series and allow them to move on without the cameras. That will be hard for her as it is a crutch for her. Since the kids are in school, she could find a way to transition into nursing again (I think that is what she did). Jon needs to get a job and resume being responsible.
Both have behaved in ways that were a bit outrageous, but as many others stated, its a divorce, kids are involved, and emotions run high.
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9-23-2009 @ 3:07PM
BON61 said...They are both at fault it takes two to ruin a marriage and a family. They have used their children to get rich and neither of them truely think of the children and all of the crap they have and are putting them through. Neither one of them are any better than that octomom they are scum.
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9-23-2009 @ 3:08PM
Betty44 said...Kate is a mother and has every right to know who is watching her kids. Once something happens to the kids, it's too late for concern, she is absolutely right. In fact, Jon should not have someone watching the kids that Kate doesn't know. After some of the public remarks he's made about hating Kate, I would be very concerned about choices he makes concerning the kids. He's childish.
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9-23-2009 @ 3:09PM
TONY PETRELLO said...IS THERE ANYWAY TO GIVE THESE 2 LOSERS SOMETHING TO GET RID OF THEM PERMANENTLY....DOES ANYONE REALLY GIVE A SHIT WHAT THEY DO OR WHAT HAPPENS TO THESE 2 NO TALENTED IDIOTS AND THE NETWORK THAT KEEPS SHOVING THEM AND THEIR MANUFACTURED PROBLEMS DOWN THE PUBLIC THROATS....I NO LONGER WATCH THEIR TV STATION NETWORK LET ALONE THEIR PRE SCRIPTED SHOW.....DUMP THEM AND THEIR SHOW ASAP
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9-23-2009 @ 3:08PM
Liz said...Where's the catagory in the poll for "I hate both of them and wish they would disappear from the face of the earth"?
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9-24-2009 @ 8:45AM
ChicagoTrue said...Can we PLEASE get these 2 people out of the news??????
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9-23-2009 @ 3:13PM
taahaatea said...Plaaazzzeee, lets keep these people out of the public eye! They are only in the news b/c everyone make money off of this. The rule of thumb is "no news, no money." Even if it's bad news, at leaset people are talking about them. If people are talking about them, they and everyone attached to the umbilical cord of this family makes money. Stop the madness and lets find something else to focus on. A family that really deserves it!!!
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9-23-2009 @ 4:02PM
eric said...Has Ms. Avery even kept up with the Gosselins? Kate was "a stay at home parent always in control of her kids?" Are you kidding me? She left Jon at the house after the show took off to be on talk shows, be at book signings and get uglier hair-dos. What Kate did is again question the judgement of Jon like she always has, in front of the world and her children. She is a control freak who takes no responsibility for her own actions but covers them up by judging the action of others to draw attention from herself. Cry me a river Kate!
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9-23-2009 @ 3:13PM
taaheatea said...You said it Tony!
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9-23-2009 @ 3:17PM
Marion said...Hallelujah! Jean is a lady filled with wisdom and mercy. May all of us benefit from her comments.
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9-23-2009 @ 3:14PM
TONY PETRELLO said...THESE 2 JERKS NEVER HAD A MARRIAGE...WHAT THEY HAD WAS A PRE-ARRANGEMENT TO BREED A BUNCH OF KIDS TO EXPLOIT...GET A REALITY SHOW...MAKE MONEY...DUPE THE PUBLIC AND BE ANNOYING FOR A FEW YEARS...WELL GUESS WHAT...THEIR FEW YEARS ARE UP...CANCEL THEIR CONTRACT .....DUMP THEIR SHOW AND THEM AND SPARE THE REST OF AMERICA...DONT WE HAVE ENOUGH WRONG WITH THIS COUNTRY TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT WITHOUT ADDING THESE 2 LOWLIFE UNTALENTED LOSERS ...ENOUGH IS ENOUGH....IS'T THERE A PLACE WHERE THEY CAN BE SENT TO ALONG WITH PARIS HILTON...BRITNEY SPEARS..JENNIFER ANISTON...BRAD PITT...ANGELINA JOLLE AND HER BROOD....A PLACE WITH NO WAY OF THEM CONTACTING THE REST OF THE WORLD....
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9-23-2009 @ 3:23PM
Marcia Pickens said...IT AMAZING YOU LET TOM HENDERSON IN ON THIS CONVERSATION. HE DOES NOT UNDERSTAND THE INNATE FEELINGS MOTHERS HAVE FOR THEIR CHILDREN. THATS WHY GOD GAVE WOMEN THE ABILITY TO BIRTH THE CHILDREN---ITS ALL PART OF THEIR NATURAL POSITION IN THE CHILD'S LIFE.
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9-23-2009 @ 3:25PM
CSM said...I think this is just part of Kate's control issues. She needs to back up and let Jon be a father to those children. I'm sure it's hard for her to let go when she's used to being with her children 24-7. If you've ever seen past issues of this show Jon could never do anything to suit her. I'm sure that has alot to do with why he left in the first place. She needs to trust that he is making the right decisions. But at the same time I'm wondering why the children were with the baby sitter on his day to be with them.
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9-23-2009 @ 3:20PM
TONY PETRELLO said...IF THESE 2 LOSES REALLY GAVE A SHIT ABOUT THEIR KIDS THEY WOULD CANCEL THEIR SHOW....RESOLVE THEIR PROBLEMS TOGETHER OFF CAMERA AND START BEING ADULTS AND BECOME PARENTS TO THE 8 KIDS THEY HAD THE NERVE TO HAVE....BUT NO...HE TAKES UP WITH THE BABY SITTER AND SHE GOES ON THE VIEW AND NOW IS HOPING TO GET HER OWN SHOW....FOLKS...STOP WATCH THIS CRAP SHOW....IT IS ALL PRE WRITTEN AND THEY ARE ONLY ACTING OUT THEIR ROLES TO MAKE MONEY.......THEY ARE SCREWING THE PUBLIC AS WELL AS THEIR KIDS....GET LOST BOTH OF YOU
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