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A good friend told me the best parenting advice she ever got: Your child will let you know what she is ready for. So, don't buy her a bike for her birthday if she hasn't asked for one; wait until she expresses a desire for a bike, then buy the bike.
Last Christmas, my husband, Sean, and I had a similar discussion. Sean heard that a relative was going to buy their kids the Nintendo Wii for Christmas, and he thought we should, too. Our kids had never even muttered the words Wii, let alone put it on their Christmas list.
Why, I asked him, would we introduce video games into our home when our kids are not even into them? When I listed the potential problems that would come with the game (fights, negotiations over time spent playing, the kids leaving it out and the baby wrecking it), it didn't take long for Sean to concede that it wasn't worth the trouble. It also didn't take long for me to realize that he was the one who wanted a Wii.When it comes to talking to our kids about sex, we're taking a similar tack: Don't offer information they're not asking for. Which is why the cookie-cutter sex talk most schools give fourth graders these days never quite made sense to me. Not every fourth-grader is ready or even curious about sex. I know my daughter isn't. And so I decided that I would sign the permission slip opting her out of the sex-ed health class. I plan to keep my daughter home that day for a lazy day spent watching movies, drawing, hanging out with her younger siblings and baking cookies with Mom. Besides, I think it's my job to talk to her about her body and sex, not the school's. This is way too important to subcontract out to anyone else.
I have a close relationship with my daughter and I've been trying to stay tuned to the stories and conversations she relays from school and the questions she brings home. A few days ago, she asked me to tell her more about "sporty."
I have a close relationship with my daughter and I've been trying to stay tuned to the stories and conversations she relays from school and the questions she brings home. A few days ago, she asked me to tell her more about "sporty."
"Sporty?", I asked.
"Yeah, sporty", she said confidently.
"Hmm, I don't know. Can you give me any idea what it's about."
"You know, sporty. When girls change."
"Ohhhh, puberty!"
"Yeah, puberty. See, a girl in my class has to leave to go to the bathroom every four hours to do something and it has to do with puberty."
"Yes. I know what you're talking about."
"Well," I said, gathering my thoughts, recalling my best skills from acting school so I could appear calm and casual, and bracing myself for 'the talk' as I stirred a pot of soup on the stove. "You see, what happens is that..."
And that was the point I realized that she was no longer listening. Suddenly she was distracted by Pippi, our dog, and her baby sister, who was playing beside her, and before I knew it, she was digging through her backpack looking intensely for something.
My voice trailed off and she didn't even seem to notice. She simply wasn't interested. The fact that I knew what she was talking about was all she seemed to want to know. I stood there watching her in all her glorious and unadulterated girlhood and thought, there's no way I could disrupt this innocence before its time.
I know plenty of parents and experts (especially the one on Oprah who famously recommended that moms of teens buy their daughters a vibrator) are going to disagree with me here, but I feel I know my child best and we have a relationship where I'm pretty certain she would come to me with questions, or that I would somehow sense that she was ready for the information.
I know, I know, some kid at school might talk to her about it before I do. That's true. But if that happens, I believe that she will come to me afterwards and I can then give her clear, accurate answers to her questions.
Is it a perfect foolproof solution? No. But what in the messy job of child-rearing ever is?
What I know is that my particular 10-year-old still plays with her American Girl dolls, dresses up and plays pirates with her siblings out in the tree fort and deserves to be a little girl as long as she so desires.
And when sporty comes knocking, I'll be there for her.
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10-28-2009 @ 5:45PM
jen said...Um, Rachel? Your daughter just DID come to you with questions and you distracted her by acting clueless about what she was talking about, and seeming more interested in your soup than her. If there is a girl in the 4th grade who has been vistited by "sporty", then ALL the girls are talking about it!! I think you missed a great oportunity, and hopefully she gives you at least one more chance. Because otherwise, she WILL get her info from the other kids, and no, she will not neccessarily share her it with you, because she can probably sense your uncomfortableness. And, BTW, knowing how our bodies work should really not be confused with "sex-ed", as you imply in your post. A final heads up, since you mentioned American Girl Dolls - they have a fantastic series of age-appropriate books out on various subjects such as puberty, boys, manners, girl-friend conflicts, etc. Could help.
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10-29-2009 @ 12:58AM
Lauren said...Good point, Jen, especially when puberty is hitting girls much earlier these days due to environmental factors like chemical exposure and hormones in meat and poultry. My younger sisters started their periods around 13 and 14, whereas I was the one secretly bleeding in fourth grade. What happens if her daughter, who she has left willfully ignorant, starts menstruating in the middle of class at a young age? You can explain menstruation without getting into the details of sex. Sounds like this author has gotten ahead of herself. The schools talk to the students for those with parents exactly like her - and nobody there is going to risk their job to recommend vibrators to children. Please.
10-28-2009 @ 5:47PM
Teresa said...I'm glad to hear that some moms would rather let their daughters be little girls as long as they can be one. I did not think it was the schools right for them to teach our children about sex issues either. They grow up too fast and their innocence needs to be protected.
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11-24-2009 @ 11:47AM
anna said...AS A MOTHER OF GROWN SONS NOW, I REMEMBER WHEN MY SONS USED TO TELL ME THINGS THAT GIRLS WERE SHARING WITH THEM,IN 8TH GRADE THAT I DID'NT KNOW UNTIL MY MARITAL BED! PARENTING IS THE HARDEST JOB ON THIS EARTH! GIVING A CHILD A SAFE PLACE TO FIND ONE SELF AND LEARN ABOUT THEIR BODY AND ITS NATURAL DEVELOPMENT IS PRIMARY, TO UNDERSTANDING THE ADVANCEMENT OF SEX EDUCATION AND MAKING MATURE DECISIONS. WHEN CHILDREN ASK ONE SHOULD RESPOND GENTLY AND SIMPLY. I THINK 5TH GRADE IS A GOOD TIME . I DO THINK SCHOOLS SHOULD KEEP OUT OF THE DETAILS ITS TOO RISKY AND CAN LEAD FOR SOME TEACHERS ESPECIALLY TODAY BE BUT AT RISK!~
10-28-2009 @ 5:49PM
Mom of 3 girls said...Finally, someone with some sense on rearing kids. I completely agree with your approach. Why put curious thougths in your child's mind that they aren't curious about already. Sometimes people accuse me of sheltering my children. To that I say, I hope I can shelter them from the world and protect their innocence as long as I can. Isn't that our job as parents anyway? Why rush them into adulthood. There's plenty of time for that later in life.
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10-29-2009 @ 4:19AM
chewy said..."Innocence" does not mean ignorant. You wait until your child is curious, and you have waited too long. You will be the last one to know what they are up to..
Pull your child out of sex ed just so you can avoid them learning? My God, seriously? If you keep them home while their class is getting educated, you better be teaching them right away yourself or they will learn the next day and it is out of your hands.
Education is nothing to be afraid of. Stop being mommy and aim for being a mother.
10-28-2009 @ 5:51PM
Lorraine said...I really appreciate what you said. I, too, want to talk to my kids about the birds and the bees when they are ready.
I also agree with your assessment of the WII. There is a book that talks about how we as parents are taking away desire from our kids. They get things before they can use them or even want them. Learning how to wait, enjoying the anticipation, working toward something~all very valuable lessons.
I really enjoy what you have to say!
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10-28-2009 @ 6:02PM
Audrey, CA said...Well, there you go again you editors and writers of AOL articles!
You showed a picture of a little girl who died and before she died, she wrote notes and hid them. So I clicked on it in order to read the details and AS USUAL there was no story about the notes or the little girl. This happens with regularity and it is so DAMNED frustrating I could SCREAM!
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10-28-2009 @ 6:11PM
Heidi said..."notes left behind" is there and is about a little girl who died. Her parents wrote a book about it. maybe you clicked wrong? Try again because it's worth reading.
10-28-2009 @ 6:06PM
Xavior said...I grew up with 8 older sisters and a neighborhood in Iowa full of girls and very few boys, so I was faced with this at a much early age than most kids in the late 70's and early 80's.
I think as parents we over complicate this issue. Just be honest with your children from the start with baby steps. There is a fear in some circles that talking about this means they will go and do it and have babies at an early age. I had my first experience at age 13 and my first child at age 33, so I don't subscribe to that belief. It came down to my patents and sisters being open with me when it came to this issue and others.
We have a 3 year old son, named Zaire. Mommy and I always tell him that he came from mommy's belly. That daddies and mommies make babies. We will continue to add bits and pieces as he gets older when moments present themselves. Whether that be a women having a baby on TV or something else. We will also instill in him our belief that babies should wait until you are in your 30's and with someone you know will be a great mother and that you care about.
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10-28-2009 @ 6:47PM
jen said...Just to restate what I was saying above - I am all in favor of letting children be children as long as they want, HOWEVER, Rachel's daughter appeared to be reaching out to her mother to give her some answers, and Rachel appears to have distracted and diverted her daughter so that the facts were avoided. I just hope that both mother and daughter have another chance at it, before the little girl decides that her friends are better resources. I see an opportunity missed.
And PS - what's wrong with letting your husband have a Wii for Christmas - do you monitor the number of hours he spends on the electronics like you would a child?
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10-30-2009 @ 1:27AM
Michelle said...Did we just read the same post? Not once did Rachel act clueless, nor did she divert or distract her daughter!!!
"Yes. I know what you're talking about."
How is that clueless? She then proceeds to start talking to her daughter about it and her daughter loses interest, which is no surprise considering she is 10 yrs old and sex education probably isn't a huge priority for her. Did Rachel not talk fast enough for you? Her daughter obviously felt comfortable approaching her to begin with and since some girls mature slower than others, I doubt that will be Rachel's last opportunity to discuss it with her. I applaud her for rolling with the punches on this one!
P.S. When did she deny her husband a wii for christmas? Did he ask for one because that's not what I read? She said her kids didn't need one (good for her) and made an assumption that it was her husband that really wanted one! NEVER did she write that he wanted one and she denied him...SERIOUSLY go back and read her post CLOSELY and while you're at it GET A GRIP!
11-03-2009 @ 12:18AM
isisaquaria said...to Michelle
Stirring the soup and not stopping and answering her daughter,,,,
the child read moms body and most likely figured it wasnt gonna happen just like before so why bother---I am sure some girl at school will bring it up and the daughter will know so much before Mom decides to acknowledge the child.
If the child is in fourth grade as I am assuming, leaving her home--allowing her to skip school to keep her mind pure--big backfire coming....because unless you plan on keeping her out of school for a month, she will get all the info from her peers and get teased that "mommy" protected her from reality. Wow, poor kid.
10-28-2009 @ 7:01PM
Elizabeth said...I agree that children shouldn't be talked to about sex until they're ready, but if a child is approaching the age where a parent hit puberty, even if they haven't asked, I think it's time for the talk, that way they know what to expect. I don't know about boys, not being one myself, but I think for girls, it is important to talk about puberty and prepare them for what's to come, because girls do talk about it early and often amongst themselves, especially if they have older friends or sisters. Since most of my friends were older than I was growing up, I learned a lot from them, and very little from my own mother until years later. But then again, it's not as if puberty and sex go hand in hand. One can broach one subject without the other. Puberty especially is a difficult time for kids, and they need to be reassured that the changes they are going through and what they are feeling is completely normal.
And the thing about pulling your kid out of sex ed class is, while you have that right as a parent, it's not like your kid isn't going to know what was discussed, because the kids will talk to each other about it, and your child's friends will fill her in. If I were in that position, I would find out just exactly what the curriculum is--if it's strictly anatomy and physiology, or if it encompasses more advanced sexual topics--and then make a choice. Because if it's just anatomy, there's no harm in that. But safe sex isn't really a fourth grade topic.
So I guess in my opinion, the sex talk isn't really just a one-time thing, because there are different stages of it, and your kids will let you know when they're ready for each stage.
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10-28-2009 @ 7:13PM
Elizabeth said...I also want to add that at 10 years old I was still playing with dolls, but I was also wearing a training bra, reading romance novels, and getting up the nerve to buy tampons. Just because a child seems innocent on the outside, doesn't mean they don't have those thoughts. Also, children can sense--almost eerily in some cases--when an adult doesn't want to talk about something, so if you're giving off that vibe, they might just pretend not to listen.
10-28-2009 @ 7:19PM
Sally said...I get what she is saying about not giving kids information before they are ready or interested, but really, is she going to wait until the day the school nurse calls her to come get her daughter because she has started her period? And if one of the girls is getting her period, does she think that information (some of it surely inaccurate) is not getting to her daughter? This "innocence," as she calls it, that she wants to maintain for her child, may be more about trying to keep her daughter that way, than what is really right for the child. Menstruation is a normal bodily function for girls and is happening at a younger age with every generation. When I was in 5th grade, we had a ridiculous (but completely non-threatening) little cartoon movie we (girls) watched while the boys went out for recess, and guess what? I still had no idea about sex--just that it was all somehow related to "growing up" female. Just because you share some information doesn't mean you have to describe sex acts. And by the way, I think her husband wants a Wii...
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10-28-2009 @ 9:27PM
Sifrina said...This is a tough one - I know! When my son asked one day (at 6 Ithink) where babies come from, I told him that the sperm from the daddy mixes with the mom's egg and the baby grows in the mommy's uterus. His follow up question was, "But how does the sperm get intothe mommy?" I paused and said in my most professional tone, "Throughthe penis." He ended his questioning and I took that as he wasn't ready to hear more (and I was so relieved). About a year or two later, however, he revisited his line of questioning and asked how the sperm got out of the penis. I paused again and said, "When you are ready to make a baby, it will come outof the penis." No further questions (phew!). But inevitably he will return to the subject and I will answer his questions the most age-appropriate way I can (and without making up lies, which I don't believe in).
Too much info by your standards for a 7 year old? Probably. BUT as you say, you know your kid best and I believe he should be a subject matter expert about his own body and its amazing capabilities (which also brings with it a responsibility as sole owner of his body). Learning about your body is not the same thing as learning about human sexuality or becoming/feeling sexual. I only ask one thing, please tell your daughter about her period before it happens. Why should she be scared unnecessarily?
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10-28-2009 @ 9:29PM
Peter +4 said...My 4th grade daughter watched the public school video on puberty, and growth and developement in males and females, which I previewed out of concern. It was well done and well recieved. The 6th grade video, after preview and urging from my daughter and other parents made the opt-out category. This CTW Video had a liberal dose of way too much info! The public school oversteps it's bounds here. I like the educate about sex from home philosophy. So many supportive resourses are available. I like the books The Princess and the Kiss, The Squire and the Scroll, and the 3 gifts of Christmas to help frame morality and chastity discussions. Google abstinance education for more guidelines. Parents get ready!
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10-28-2009 @ 11:01PM
Stu said...if you don't tell her first someone else will and it won't be with love and concern in their heart. Most parents want them to learn about sex from them. Most kids learn about it from other kids ands from media. This was an opportunity, a teachable moment, if you will. You allowed it to pass you by but it may not be too late to remind her of her question. Don't wait for the "big" conversation we all dread. Make it a series of small talks. Don't wait for "sporty" or anything/anyone else.
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10-29-2009 @ 2:05AM
ninainindia said...She should be told about menstruation before it starts, it van be frightening for a child if she know s nothing about it. Many girls start around the age of 11 no matter hoe child like they still seem. It is not just the very developed girls that start early.
If there is a special day at school, you can bet there will be talk about it and she will hear about form her classmates. Via via information is never 100% accurate so she will be more confused than if you just let her go to the special class.
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