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When a Virginia father took his son, right, and his son's friend, left, to Hooters for lunch, it touched off a lively national debate on sexuality and tweens. Credit: Carol Anne Elston
"The trip to Hooters, I saw as an opportunity to see how he conducts himself around women. If he drooled and couldn't take his eyes of the waitress, then that would be an unmistakable cue to me to start preparing another birds and the bees talk. If he acted embarrassed and shy, then that would be a sign that such a pointed talk could wait a bit. So what happened?" Elston wrote.The post has already garnered thousands of views and also landed Elston on National Public Radio and in USA Today, where he called the lunch "an opportunity to check on my own son's development, or lack thereof, in a real world setting."
Elston shared his thoughts on blogging, the development of sexuality and parenting tweens in an email interview with ParentDish.
ParentDish: What drove you to blog about taking your son to Hooters?
Bob Elston: I started blogging about parenting four months ago because being a parent is probably both one of the most frustrating and fun things you can do with your life. Those of us who raise kids learn quickly that our window to guide and influence them is surprisingly short. We need to use our time wisely before our kids grow up, go to school and become independent adults with their own ideas.
PD: Were you surprised at the reaction that your story inspired?
BE: Yes and no. Yes, because my parenting blog used to be an obscure speck on the Internet, read only by a few dozen friends of mine and a couple of extremely bored Internet surfers who happened to stumble upon it. I never imagined that 4,000 people in a day would read it. On the other hand, I am not surprised because "'sexuality" and "our children" is a universal issue that all parents think about and strategize what is best for their own children. The topic is also a red-meat issue that divides society in general.
As a blogger, I find it most interesting to write about issues in which both sides have valid arguments and that we, as parents, must make a choice with trade-offs. Sex is one of those issues. Parents, at some point, have to get off the fence and decide whether they are comfortable with being open and honest and giving their children the right information about sex, or whether they want to try to protect their children from sexual images and information and accept the risk that their kids will find out about it from their friends, movies, television and the Internet. We all know that most 11-year-olds out there are curious and will find out about sex with or without their parents' help.
PD: Had you frequented Hooters without your son before?
BE: I had been to one probably a decade ago with friends for a drink after an NBA basketball game. I also went once with my dad while we were in Atlantic City for a boxing match. I myself don't find Hooters very titillating, and there are tons better places to have a beer and watch a game on TV.
ParentDish: Were you surprised at your son's reaction? It sounds like he was oblivious.
Bob Elston: I wasn't too surprised because I know my son very well. But I also know that as a boy in sixth grade, changes are coming and puberty is just around the corner. I talked to my son's sixth grade teacher, who said that this is the grade when everything changes for a lot of kids. They start the school year thinking that their opposite has cooties and by the end of the school year, they have a different attitude. That is the way it was for me. For now, though, his reaction was probably typical of an 11-year-old before the changes, and that is awkwardness.
PD: The photo shows a fairly average-looking young woman, as far as body type goes, but still people were inflamed. Why do you think that is?
BE: I think the sexual ingredient gets people inflamed. If I had blogged about taking a 10-year-old to a PG-13 movie, or allowing an 11-year-old to play mature video games, the reaction would have been far less.
As for the photo, I posted it so that readers wouldn't conjure up in their minds an image that was at odds with reality. Apparently a lot of people who made comments on my blog seemed to lump Hooters in with strip clubs and assume that Hooters waitresses are bad people. I think you can see from the picture that the Hooters uniform isn't all that revealing and their waitresses are just like anyone else. To me, a picture of an 11-year-old boy and a 20-something waitress is non-threatening because, after all, what can possibly happen between them? I was a bit uncomfortable putting my son's face out there, but my wife and I agreed that it was worthwhile to make a point.
I think probably that individual reader reactions are determined not so much by the attractiveness of the waitress, but rather their own attitudes. For those who see this lunch primarily as an issue of sexuality and morality, they might be uncomfortable with introducing an 11-year-old into the discussion.
ParentDish: You wrote that your son later approached you and said that he was being teased for going to Hooters. Did you feel like you had created an awareness of sexuality that maybe wasn't there before?
Bob Elston: I think the teasing part is the thing that most concerns an 11-year-old prepubescent boy. But my son is a mature boy and is growing up in a family that likes to joke around a lot. He doesn't mind being teased about most things, but when it comes to girls he gets sensitive to the teasing.
ParentDish: Do you regret taking him to Hooters?
Bob Elston: I don't regret it. It was a pretty harmless situation in my view. He was there not only with his own dad, but his grandparents, a friend from the neighborhood and that friend's father. I called my wife and got her approval. We were there at lunchtime with a lot of other families. If the situation was different -- say, if we went late at night when there is no kids and the beer is flowing freely -- then I wouldn't so much as regret it but not do it in the first place. As soon as he walked into the place and took one look around, his curiosity was satisfied and he now sees no reason to go back. As a parenting outcome, I'll take it.
ParentDish: Do you regret writing the blog post?
Bob Elston: No, I don't regret it. I write a parenting blog and this is an important parenting issue. After all, in the Internet age, anyone can be a blogger and anyone can be a critic. I actually don't mind the criticism.
I think that despite the divisiveness around this particular issue, we parents all have the same goal in mind. That is we are all trying to raise our children to grow into thoughtful, responsible and happy adults capable of making good decisions without Mom and Dad there to guide them. The trick for parents is to figure out a unique route to that common end point.
The only part I do regret is that all this attention means I risk being known as the 'Hooters Dad' when, in fact, there are so many other parenting topics that I write about that seem to me more important to me.
ParentDish: After everything that happened after your post and knowing what you know now, would you do it again, and would you write about it? Why or why not?
Bob Elston: I don't regret it. That said, I don't think any parent should do something with their kids because some obscure blogger that nobody has ever heard of said it was OK. Each of us have to think about what is best for our kids and make the call for ourselves.
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ReaderComments (Page 1 of 20)
11-12-2009 @ 5:09PM
Elizabeth said...I say job well done to this dad! It's quite refreshing to see parents taking charge with regards to their children and sex. I don't see the big deal about taking an 11-year-old to Hooters, since, aside from the waitresses who dress in shorts (which are loose and a bit longer, depending on which restaurant you go to), there is nothing really sexual about the place. It is decorated with mostly sports memorabilia or whatever the locale is known for (ie, Hollywood has movie things, etc.) At least this dad is going to tell his son that women aren't objects to be ogled, and it doesn't sound like he's making it an annual thing, so no harm no fowl (get it, cause it's Hooters?).
I bet the people who have a problem with this are the type of people who wouldn't go into Hooters anyway. (You're missing out, the wings are soooo good,)
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11-13-2009 @ 9:38PM
Delta007 said...The uniform that the young lady is wearing in the picture can be seen in many variations at the local mall on any age female. It is not that revealing. I think the name, t.v. and movies are what conjures up images of scantily clad to nude waitresses. I've never been there, but it doesn't seem to be that way.
11-12-2009 @ 8:10PM
Kate said...Hooters considers themselves a family friendly environment. I have been to a few and not all of the women are busty, and none of them had their boobs spilling out of their tops. Too many people making assumptions that haven't even been to a Hooters.
11-12-2009 @ 8:12PM
Don Winston said...I have a 17 year old boy and we have been going to differant Hooters for about 15 years. Yes, his reaction is differant now than 5 + years ago. I don't see a problem with it at all.
11-12-2009 @ 8:24PM
Gabbi said...Thank you so much Elizabeth! I am a HooTers Girl and we have a TON of families that come in every single day with their kids. People come out to Hoots on dates and for celebrations. We're not bad people and I'm glad that another woman realizes that. :) We're moms, students, wives, and more; and we make dining experiences a lot more fun for everyone.
Moms bring their boys AND daughters in to talk to us, too, not just dads. We're Hooter Girls, not strippers, belly dancers, or girls on the corner.and our wings have been voted Best in Hampton Roads, VA AGAIN! ... if you're ever in the area, stop by and we'll do the Hokie Pokie with you :) Thank you for your support!
Always,
Gabbi
Hooters of Virginia Beach, VA
11-12-2009 @ 8:43PM
Sheryl said...THANK YOU!!!! Goodness, it's not like he took them to a strip club, or showed them porn. As a woman, I don't see a problem with this.
11-12-2009 @ 8:51PM
Nancy said...What an irresponsible thing to do as a parent. His son is not a science project nor 'an experiment' he is a child and a human being. The father's lack of maturity and responsibility is reprehensible. Not only did he introduce a tone of sexuality into his son's awareness albeit subtle and subliminally imprinted, he has placed his relationship with his peers to taunts which further compounds the problem that is now clearly in the forefront of his son's awareness.
While Hooters is not a strip club, nor prostitutes. it is a place with sexual implications. Would he have brought his daughter to a club that had men in short's and no top where the overtone was of a sexual nature and justify it as a social experiment?
11-12-2009 @ 9:23PM
alan said...Two (2) years ago, I took my son, then age 10, to Hooters for his birthday, at 5pm before a hockey game.
In the midst of a nasty divorce, "mommy" had her attorneys make an issue in Court papers no less! Prepared for this...I had him count the number of CHILDREN IN HIGH CHAIRS, plus, we took a menu, to keep for such anticpitaed response...to submit as a reply.....which we did, and the menu showcases the "CHILDREN'S MENU".
Additonally, the "sex oogling conduct", their words, revealed far less ":skin" than he see's at the BEACH with mom and her friends........and, instead, introduces him to the opposite sex in a MATURE, respectful environment...which CANNOT be said for the beach!
The food is great, he learned and still dines there with me, to show respect, self control for attractive females or, risks getting thrown OUT if he misbehaves one day as an adult. Again, not so at a PUBLIC BEACH!
To any and all who complain/protest: calm down! Kids know more today y age 9 on their own than we ever did, so, intercede, TEACH them, GUIDE them, INVOKE respect in them......those are RESPONSIBLE adult-like traits. IGNORE them and nature's inevitable course: THAT is malfeasance as a parent!
11-12-2009 @ 9:45PM
sexpert said...I take my daughters to male strip clubs now that they are of age.....they seem extremely indifferent. This speaks volumes about the difference in the actual interest in the persuance of sex male to females. Males should persue sex with dignity.....only after which you have established a repoir with your woman do you play the kind of games unfamiliar couples should stay away from.
11-12-2009 @ 9:57PM
Randy Self said...I wonder if the people who don't believe this is appropriate put an age restriction on taking thier kids to the beach.
11-12-2009 @ 9:58PM
Alan said...A responsible father can't take his kid to Hooters in the middle of the day without getting other moronic parents fired up? I congradulate him on his responsibility on the matter and conducting it with such precise timing and reason as is not to confuse or misconstrue the details of why he did it. If that's so bad then how come so many parents recently went out and bought their 9-13 year old kids Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 within that last few days... you know they walk around shooting, stabbing and blowing people up in that game right? So... them sitting in front of a tv playing those kinds of games for 20+ hours per week is worse than this situation? Parents = DON'T BE LAZY!!! Bob = Way to go man! Be that pro-active pioneer!
11-12-2009 @ 10:07PM
Adam said...This type of act to bring children to Hooters, I thought was a good idea. It allows for young boys to see how they act in front of women. It's just a reality, they should learn about sexuality at an early age and to ask anything they want to their mom or dad because so much about sexuality is not taught. The earlier they learn the better. Most schools only touch up on the subject in health class, so living the emotions and asking is so important. Children should not be afraid to wonder and ask, because sex and sexuality is so prevalent in today's society. Growing up afraid will cause children to be confused about themselves, they should be confident when they reach the age when they express love and romance towards another.
Good Job Mr. Elston
11-12-2009 @ 10:46PM
Sylvia said...i agree, they look like they're having fun. Boys grow up far more differently than girls do, and it's great to have a dad, watching for his son's changes, and reactions. All children need a positive influance from their parents on sexuality.
11-12-2009 @ 10:59PM
gesnow39 said...No one would freak out if he had taken them to the beach, where the women are much less "clad." So why do they have a cow about this? I say, good job dad.
11-12-2009 @ 11:07PM
Joe said...The criticized him for taking his son to Hooters where the women wear shirts and shorts. If he took his son to Wet And Wild or another water park where women wear bikinis, showing much more skin than Hooters would he be criticized for that also? Wake up people! The Disney Channel has more sexually explicit action in their music videos than Hooters can even think about having!
11-12-2009 @ 11:27PM
Beth said...I personally think that most of the people that disagree with Mr. Elston need to come down off their pedistals and venture into the real world. In 6th grade my now 18 year old son came home and asked me about oral sex. I was open about it and told him what it was. After he said "eww that's gross" he went about his business. The sad thing about it was that he had heard about it in school from the other kids. Now, tell me why Hooter's is bad. I personally do not care for their food but, the waitresses are not to be blamed and called names. Any of you "ladies" out their needs to put themselves into their shoes. I paid my way through both a BA and MA being a waitress so, get off your high horses folks. Maybe you think that Mr. Elston went about things the wrong way but, at least he is the type of parent that cares about his child. I believe that you can explain sex at every stage of life to thier understanding. Maybe if some of you would be open about sex with your kids and not let their friends be their teachers, there would be a decrease in teen pregnancy and STD's. With everything else that can and do help to corrupt our youngsters, I would think that you have more important things to do. Remember, we are raising the next generation, our future leaders and innovators so, as the saying goes; judge not lest ye be judged. Oh, I forgot, let he who is without sin cast the first stone. I don't think any of us can claim that one.
11-12-2009 @ 11:48PM
Robert said...I agree This is the year 2009 if we don't teach our kids the right way we would not have 11 or 12 year olds having sex and babies and a lot of child abuse with unwed teens so I think there are a lot of bible thumpers taking this to heart due to they just rather have there kids learn from friends since they are to scared to have the sex talk I am very open and honest with my 6 year old and he knows about how babies are made and to take precautions if I have to read a gang letter and about colors they wear and how to act in school then the sex talk is a peice of cake. I think being a parent is in the parents hands and this father is a great father for wanting to take great care of his son and see if the sex talk is needed. Some parents could learn from this father and get a set of balls and have a conversation with there kids once in a while get to know them for who they are and not ignore them and this world might have more smart kids that make better choices then there stupid parents do.
11-12-2009 @ 11:46PM
Shawn said...Maybe kids shouldn't go to the beach right??? Get a grip people please!!!!!
11-13-2009 @ 12:53AM
watch the world said...To Judy B,
One of the first things that parents teach their children is that people who are mean and hateful are ugly and "slimy" on the inside... Unfortunately, you are one of these people. I pity you for your ignorance. Hooters is a restaurant, and the women and girls that work there are clearly far better human beings than yourself. If you object to taking children there then please also refrain from taking your children to the beach, girls' sporting events, and ballets for fear that they would be exposed to the inappropriate bikinis, short-shorts uniforms, and too-tight leotards (assuming you have children; I can't imagine there would be any man willing to subject himself to such a judgemental person). Thank you Mr. Elston for choosing a practical approach to this delicate topic of parenting.
11-13-2009 @ 12:55AM
Lea said...I am a prude when it comes to porn and such...I don't think children should be exposed to such things. However, these kids were exposed to nothing more than what they see on an average city sidewalk in July. If so many parents would be so attentive we would not have the social problems we have. Kudos.