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I Love the Name, but Hate the Nickname
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Dear Name Lady:
We love the name Edmund for our son but we strongly dislike Eddie/Ned (I still don't understand where people get Ned from Edmund). We can bear people once in a while asking, "How's little Eddie?" but it is not our intention for him to be called anything other than Edmund on a regular basis, unless we develop a cool nickname from his first and middle name. At this point, the middle name will either be Phillip or Charles. Any suggestions on things to help avoid Eddie/develop a cool nickname?
- Edwhat
It's time for a gut check. Do you love the name Edmund more than you loathe Ed and Ned? You have to be honest with yourself about this, because I can't promise you'll be able to keep Ed at bay. Sure, you might be able to keep your in-laws and preschool teachers on the straight Edmund path, but there's one person who can scuttle your best-laid plans: your son.
By third grade or so, most kids start thinking about how they want to be known. A lot of boys with very formal names try to shed them, often with the help and urging of their buddies. Distraught parents have surprisingly little say in the matter. (Just ask the proud mother of a young Cornelius who suddenly finds herself with a Corny.) Barring intervention, some Eddie time may be in your future.
You're right that starting off with a different, cool nickname can help prevent this. An Alexander called Xander, for instance, seldom turns into an Alex. The trick is that Edmund doesn't give you a lot of natural options, and Phillip and Charles make for tough combos (Nedchuck?) You can always use your son's initials, or take a nickname like Flip or Chaz straight from the middle name. Or you could dream up one of those jazz-musician nicknames that never have anything to do with any names at all -- Boots or Doc or Spike.
The farther you get from Edmund, though, the more you have to question the choice. It's easy to be both Alexander and Xander, but with Edmund and Spike it becomes an either/or. If your son chooses 100% Spike, you've lost your beloved Edmund altogether.
That leaves you with two surefire alternatives. You can choose another name with more appealing nicknames or you can name him Edmund, call him Edmund and accept that at some times in some places he may choose Ed. Hey, at least it's not Corny.
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11-24-2009 @ 11:56PM
Clarissa said...My husband's name is Robert as is his father's however his dad went by Bob. My husband has always gone by Robert.
His mother made sure people knew that his name was Robert and that he was only to be called Robert. She didn't want him called Rob, Bob, Bobby or any of the other Robert nicknames.
After him and I started dating I started calling him Robby. To this day I am THE only person to call him this and he will quickly correct other people on his name if they call him anything other than Robert.
So if you don't want your kid called by anything other than his or her name then make sure you let the people around you know that nicknames are a no no and insist they use the child's given name.
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11-27-2009 @ 11:35AM
Robert W. Morgan said...Hooray for you! 'Tis true that I permit my loving wife to call me any darned thing she wants (I love the sound of her voice) but since childhood I have never quite grasped why folks think they are being "chummy" by wanting to call me Bob! I invariably say that 'bob' is something you do for apples; my name is Robert. I soon discovered that those who take offense are not someone with whom I would become friends anyway; they had other motives to pretend to me friends.
I also feel sad about this recent trend to invent cutesy spellings or intricate made-up names. Parents bestowing such titles do not realize they have condemned their children to a life wherein they will forever have to spell it out to every new acquaintance or business. Not I nor my Alicia nor our daughter Natalie or Erika.
11-27-2009 @ 12:28PM
Greg said...I've gone by 'Greg' instead of Gregory for as long as I can remember, but that was expected when I was born. As others have mentioned, I've only allowed myself to be called Gregory by my grandmother, and one girlfriend. It seemed weird whenever anyone else said it. My sister was named Erika because my mother thought people might take to calling her 'Rikki', which she tought was cute. My sister shut that down herself when she was 2. To this day it's 'Erika' and nothing else. Now my grandfather, on the other hand, loved his Irish name 'Caroll' which is seen as being feminine in this country. His typical reaction to anyone who dared to make fun of it garnered him the nickname 'KO' while in the Navy, and was the only thing anybody called him (including his wife and children) until the day he died. Nicknames have a way of just happening, and often it has little basis on what parents' wishes are.
11-27-2009 @ 12:48PM
Active Mom of 2 said...I have to laugh when I read this article and then the responses.
You see I have two boys, Robert and Nathan, and we my Ex and I adopted Robert, my Ex made up a song about his name: that it is Robert not Bobby, or Bob, and that he was to be called Robert.
I told him over and over again he should have recorded his song: it was that good!!
11-27-2009 @ 7:25PM
Cori said...Just because the parents might love the name they give their child does not mean that the child will love it too once they realize what you did to them! My parents named me "Corliss". I am a white Jewish woman with this name. I was teased relentlessly about this name. I was told that I was an apple with no core. They sang songs with these words at recess. Some people were teased about being too thin or too fat, me? I was teased about my name. When I was 11 I became "Cori", Drop the "L" and two "S"s and there ya have it. I never changed this legally cause I could never figure out how to do it easily. Everything except my driver's license and some other legal documents have the name of Cori.
PLEASE people, THINK about what you're doing to your kids before you damn them with a horrible name!
11-28-2009 @ 4:44AM
fred said...Clarissa, I think you nailed this one.
Just curious--what are you called?
1-11-2010 @ 10:01PM
Nancy Johnston said...My husband's name is Edmund, as was his grandfather's. When our son was born, my husband insisted on naming our son Edmund, Jr. I agreed with the condition that our son would never be called "little Eddie" or anything else except "Edmund." Even as a little fellow, Edmund would always correct anyone, including teachers, who called him by any name other than Edmund. When my son became a teenager, some of his friends began calling him Ed. It was a natural evolution. He will always be "Edmund" to my husband and me and most of his family. To the outside world, however, (and now his wife!) he is Ed--everyone, including Edmund, is perfectly happy with this natural evolution. You are wasting your energy obsessing about a nickname. Just enjoy your little guy.
11-25-2009 @ 5:39AM
Elizabeth said...I had a similar situation with an ex boyfriend, whose name was also Robert. I started calling him Bobby as a joke and it sort of stuck, but when anyone else called him Bobby, he hated it, and, though he never said anything because that's not the kind of guy he is, in private he told me he thought it was weird when anyone else called him Bobby. Pretty much everyone calls him Robert, except his twin brother who calls him Bert.
The thing about nicknames is that they're supposed to be signs of affection, pet names. The best ones, and the ones that stick, are the ones that you don't plan in advance. I would say name your child whatever you want and don't worry about the nickname, because odds are your child's friends will call him something completely different, and he might like that more than the one you give him.
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11-26-2009 @ 12:14AM
Kirstie said...One of my best friends loves to tell this story: she's named Katherine, and her mom was adamant from day one that she was Katherine, not Kat, Kathy, Katie or Kate.
A week of kindergarten, and she comes home one day to announce to her (most displeased) mom that she's Katie, not Katherine, so don't call her that anymore!
She's still Katie at 21 today!!
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11-26-2009 @ 7:07PM
Jen said...My oldest daughter is Katelyn Mary. She only gets Katelyn when she is in trouble and then it is usually "Katelyn Mary get your homework done". She prefers Katie, Kate is OK but please don't call her Katelyn like some of her teachers do.
11-28-2009 @ 8:50AM
klkinva said...This is too funny. My name is Katherine and my family has always called me Katie. Around 6th grade I tried to drop Katie and get everyone to call me Katherine. It eventually worked with teachers and such, but not for friends, which was fine.
In the working world, I am Katherine, but everyone insists to try to call me Kathy and I CANNOT stand that name. I am always asked if I'm called anything other than Katherine and I try to offer alternatives. My sister calls me Kate, the rest of my family and in-laws call me Katie, a few people call me Kat, and everyone else who doesn't know still slip Kathy in there. Oh if only I could eliminate Kathy!
11-26-2009 @ 6:21AM
Stasya said...If you want a more interesting nickname, the Russian nickname for Edmund is "Edik," pronounced "ED-eek."
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11-27-2009 @ 8:08AM
Susan said...My name is Susan, I absolutely hate the nickname Sue. Most Susans go by Sue, so people assume all the time that I want to be called Sue. I have spent most of my life having to correct people who insist on calling me Sue. For the most part, all through elementary school I was Susan. My first day of 7th grade in a new school with both teachers and students that didn't know me and didn't know I prefered Susan, a teacher taking attendance called out Sue "S". From that day until I graduated from high school, everyone called me Sue at school. As soon as I graduated, I made sure I took back my Susan identity. Now 24 years later, I am starting to get some of my old high school friends to make the conversion from Sue to Susan. Stand firm on your preference, I did, and for the most part it paid off, except for the 6 years in Jr. High and High School.
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11-27-2009 @ 8:22AM
karen said...You chose to be Sue, which means someday Edmund may choose to be Ed/Eddie. Outside of your family you can not control what people will call him nor can you control what he may want to be called.
11-27-2009 @ 9:15AM
CINDY said...This is a rather LAME subject!! People can do ALOT more rotten things to you than calling you a nickname that you don't like!!! When I was young, other kids used to call me UGLY, STUPID, or any other name they could come up with to HURT MY FEELINGS!! That's what you people SHOULD be worried about!! Kids as a rule, are cruel and to get attention from other kids, will be MEAN!! I would have rather been called a NICKNAME any day of the week!! Some of you need to get your priorities straight!!
11-27-2009 @ 8:37PM
wyldsyde53 said...So you have actually spent most of your life whining about not being called Susan by everyone you come into contact with? Is there any room in your current place of residence for anything other then your pompous behind?
11-27-2009 @ 2:52PM
Sue said...When I was growing up, there were hundreds of Susans. I was called Susie, Sue, Susie-Q, Soupy...none were offensive and all were names of friendship. Then I met a girl like you in my sorority and she hated the nick name Sue. That was my name and she kept telling me how she hated it. It obviously didn't occur to her that she was offending me when she said she hated my name! I could not fathom then and I cannot fathom now how people can get so worked up over a name. People need to lighten up! Due to her extreme defensivness regarding the nickname, she came across as uppidy and unapproachable. I felt sorry for her...and we had the same name!!! People assume you would go by the nickname Sue because its not offensive and a common usage....you really need to get over this! If you have spent most of your life trying to correct others and are now still workng on converting your old high school friends, maybe the issue isn't your name...the issue is you!
11-27-2009 @ 6:06PM
Susan said...You chose to LET them call you Sue in Jr high and High School. I NEVER let anyone call me Sue EVER! I can't stand it. I hate it. If people are offended when I correct them too bad. It's my name. It's what I choose to be called. I did consider nick names before I named each of my sons. Michael, Jeffrey and Sam. I call each of them by their given names. Of course the first 2 have been nicknamed by their friends, but if I were to even think of calling them Mike or Jeff, it would sound strange to all of us.
11-30-2009 @ 9:56PM
Suzanne said...My name is Suzanne, but I go by Sue 99% of the time. What bothers me is when I tell people my name is Sue and they assume my real name is Susan..... and they call me Susan. Susan and Suzanne are two completely different names. I usually don't say anything, but it is annoying. Some people will even read my name written as Suzanne and still call me Susan......
11-27-2009 @ 6:37AM
David S. said...So many names are generational. "Edmund" is a very old name that is coming back, and that is cool...but no one can stop nicknames, kids make friends and they will develop those. Totally normal. Much ado about nothing.
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