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More and more parents are being bullied, online and off. Credit: it's life, Flickr
The New York City mom of one tells ParentDish that what she saw as a friendly conversation about feeding cereal to infants ended up exploding in her face.
"She ... won't stop passively aggressively attacking me, making snide comments, being just plain mean," she says. "And now, of course, the silent treatment. Nice, huh?"
Twitter, Facebook and the good old-fashioned listserv are great ways for moms to connect across geographical and cultural lines, but they often have a dark underbelly. The simple fact that you can't see another person's face makes it a little too easy to start slinging insults from a comfortable spot in front of your keyboard hundreds of miles away -- or even from the apartment next door.
Cyberbullying is in the news a lot lately, as teens gang up on one another and cause heartache -- and sometimes even tragedy -- using the technology in which they are so fluent. A recent study from the Kaiser Family Foundation finds that kids ages 8 to 18 are spending as many as 53 hours a week online -- and that offers a lot of opportunities to bully.
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But virtual harassment isn't limited to teens anymore. More mothers find that expressing their views online nets them not community, but instead insults and judgment from strangers. In a guest post for The New York Times' Motherlode blog, Nicole Sprinkle details the fracas she started when she defended the rights of childless couples to live in her kid-centric New York City neighborhood.
Her defense of nonparents unleashed what she calls the "wrath" of a dozen moms.
"What was wrong with me?" Sprinkle writes. "Surely I was just too sensitive? This was a place of openness and friendly camaraderie! I had to have been imagining it! I had to be WRONG!"
Sprinkle's experience is not an isolated one. Catherine Connors is a Toronto blogger and writer who says moms -- and parents in general -- feel more free to express their opinions aggressively when the they don't have a face-to-face relationship with those on the opposite side of the debate.
"You don't have to see me at the schoolyard or playground or sit down to coffee with me, so you feel freer to express your disagreement as passionately as you like, without ... regard for my feelings," Connors tells ParentDish.
Connors is no stranger to bullies, both online and off. Her popular mommy blog, "Her Bad Mother," is a fertile ground for parental debates. She posts honestly -- and sometimes provocatively -- about topics ranging from spanking to co-breastfeeding to her grief over the recent death of her father.
One post stemmed from a real-world incident in which a woman witnessed Connors nursing another woman's baby at a bloggers' conference. While the woman did not approach Connors at the time, she did offer her opinions about it later -- online.
"Afterward ... she wrote a scathing [blog] post about how disgusting she thought it was," Connors says. "She hadn't had the nerve to confront me in person, but online, it was a different story."
Connors used her own blog to respond to the criticism.
"Interestingly, when I wrote a post in response, saying how upsetting that had been and how wrong I thought it was to talk about other moms in those terms, I received a lot of angry commentary and e-mail from her supporters, accusing me of bullying her, of trying to censor her and shut her up."
She adds that social media networks such as Twitter encourage bullying because it "facilitates a schoolyard dynamic."
"People nudge each other and whisper to each other and say 'did you hear what she said? Pass it on!'," she says. "Someone reacts to what you've posted or tweeted and seeks out agreement from others, who in turn react, and so on and so forth. It can make bullying viral in a way that it just wouldn't be otherwise."
The culture of bullying isn't limited to the virtual world. An opinion piece in the Huffington Post points out that even being a good ecological citizen can give parents license to talk down to -- and yes, even harass -- parents who have different philosophies about child-rearing.
"A new competition has developed pitting the so-called 'green' parent against the 'helicopter' parent who tends to micro-manage and control every part of her children's lives," writes psychotherapist Carol Smaldino. "Directly or not, the bullying tendency within our culture encourages the 'liberated' and ecologically correct parents to openly snicker at those caught in a web of anxiety that is all too frequently culturally induced."
Lillian Gould tells ParentDish about her best friend, who turned on her once she became a fellow parent.
"There was constant bullying," the Charleston, West Virginia mom writes in an e-mail. "Everything from how much weight I gained to the house my husband and I bought."
After her son was born, Gould's friend turned her high beams on Gould's parenting choices, right down to how and what she fed her child.
"I heard those words play in my head every time I fixed a bottle," she writes. "Anything I did as a mother was just a disgrace in her eyes, and she was very vocal about it. She made me feel so bad every time we talked that I just couldn't be around her anymore."
Connors also recounts an incident in which another mom chastised her for nursing her son in the kids' section of her local public library. It was, she says, very hurtful.
"She insisted that I should be ashamed of myself, doing it front of young children, especially boys, especially her boy, and it was horrible," she recalls. "It was horrible because it worked. I did feel ashamed. The experience stayed with me and caused me upset for a long time afterward."
Why are moms so quick to judge and bully? We can't say. We do know that it starts early: Just look at the case of Phoebe Prince, the 15-year-old South Hadley, Mass. student who committed suicide after what the Web site True Crime Report called "an onslaught of bullying via texts, Facebook messages and in person at the school."
The site reports that a Facebook page set up to remember Phoebe was taken down after the taunts and nasty comments continued even after her death. This leaves us wondering: How can we teach our children to be kind to one another when we can't model that behavior in our own lives?
Have you or your children been bullied, or have you ever been the instigator?
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ReaderComments (Page 1 of 5)
2-01-2010 @ 1:55PM
anon said...Interesting that this topic was posted on this site. The women on this site are horridly judgemental and ugly.
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2-01-2010 @ 2:17PM
CLM said...It's not limited to the women. Both genders read this site. Both genders post. So the good and the bad, the supportive and the judgmental, are apparent in the posts of both genders.
2-08-2010 @ 1:55AM
Christina Johnson said...I understand the whole thing. My own niece trashed me to another niece over things which were not her business and have been going on for years. She did not know the whole truth only bits by what she was told. I am an Evangelical Christian and try to live by my faith that no one should be agreed with if they are in the wrong-not even if they are your family, a neighbor, or friend. My nieces are 26 and 30. I got a load of flack by family on Facebook because of it, too. It was bullied tactics. I then stated to other parents that I had chosen to speak out since one niece had not compunction to go after me and I wanted my side voiced. I did not call names nor was disrespectful. I stated that if we as parents allow bad behavior no matter the age our kids commit it, then we are irresponsibly parenting ethics no matter what belief system we have. The way my other niece took it you'd have thought that I had done something horrible. I don't think I did. I did not bully but was myself and so was another niece of mine that stood up for me. I have come to the conclusion after bign a full-time mother for nearly 17 yrs to my three kids that everyone has something to say about everthing. We can't please every person but we can try to be better to each other. No one has to agree with my ideas nor I theirs, but I wish that others could understand this and say difference is what makes us fun. I did go back and send notes to those involved that I was sorry they felt as they did but I was not about to be bullied. I did not say anything I regret nor was hurtful except unless you like to blindly support loyalty to those who are wrong. I try to see others sides on how they feel. With each generation we seem to breed more and more depraved personalities. And through political correctness we no longer can tell when someone is speaking opinions in truth as opposed to being spiteful. It doesn't matter how mean or nice things may be said...someone will be offended and they care very little for the right to have a differing opinion and let us all know about it. It is sad and I hate to see this sort of thing. But we are too caught up in hurting others for any reason. I even see this shockingly in church. All we can do is pray for ourselves and others and try having done all we could to straighten out messes when they happen. Too many people can no longer even have an honest hello said to them without taking offense. We have become too hypersensitive. And we think we can solve ills of the world and mediate wars...how we do delude ourselves.
2-08-2010 @ 2:27AM
Spookvale said...I wonder if this happens because some are taking out the pressure and negativity that their own mothers and mother in laws put on them about their parenting skills. They need someone to throw it on.
2-01-2010 @ 2:08PM
Michelle said...I loved this article. I feel that adult bullying is kept quiet because people are ashamed that they might not be able to stand up for themselves and by the bully because they aren't brave enough to do it in person so its kept online. I was in this situation but decided to take matters into my own hands and make it stop - I got a lawyer. ***Before you want to criticize and comment on someone else's life - take a good look at your ownis my advice.
When these women got caught harrassing me and their husbands, families and neighbors learned what they were doing....I think it taught them a good lesson about adult bullying. Don't forget...you always have to put your email address on webpages and blogging - there is a way to trace all the writing you do online right back to you - so be careful what you type and where. You might not just be embarrassed it might cost you.
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2-02-2010 @ 10:25AM
Granny Sue said...How sad. Online communication is such a useful tool, especially for mothers who often feel isolated in the early years of child-rearing, or who have moved and no longer have their net of friends and family close by for support. There are, I've noticed, a lot of mothers now who seem to think their way is the only way and who critique and advise when their opinions have not been requested. I don't know when this trend developed, but I observed it in play with a family member who was subjected to constant criticism and comparisons of her children to others. It undermined her self-confidence and kept her guessing what was right and wrong when dealing with her children. Each child is different and each child is in a sense a "first" child. Each parent must find their own voice and parenting style. I give advice when asked; if it's taken that's fine, but if not, that's okay too. It's THEIR child. People seem to miss that point.
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2-07-2010 @ 11:49PM
susieq said...Thank you for such an honest and right on reply. It is sad how we hurt each other by judging each other and how we really hurt ourselves even more in the process. Perhaps we need to take a look at the fact that there are many ways to parent. Parenting is truly the hardest job in the world and wouldn't it be great if we could support each other while in the day to day throngs of parenting?!!
2-02-2010 @ 11:34AM
Will said...Why are moms so quick to judge and bully? Some of it certainly has root in rigid or black and white thinking. They are unable to accept that there are many ways to do the right thing, they can only accept that their way is correct.
The narcissism that Facebook seems to evoke in some people could also be part of it. Just because the screen is asking 'What's on your mind?' don't think that people necessarily care. There is a definite 'look at me' trend going on on FB and Twitter that is more than a bit disturbing.
It is a hard truth for some people that, just because someone doesn't see things their way, that both parties can't be right. By strongly voicing their disapproval, often they feel like they've 'won' something. Really, they've only made themselves appear petty.
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2-03-2010 @ 9:37AM
IronicMom said...Thank you for bringing this up. My twins were born in Bangkok, and it didn't take long for me to feel parenting pressure. I bowed out of the competition early, thinking, "Who cares if I'm not teaching my babies to sign?"
Last week I posted a blog about my Screw-the-Experts Theory of Parenting. It's tongue and cheek, but many a true word...You can find it at IronicMom[dot]com.
Thanks again for bringing this up,
Leanne (aka Ironic Mom)
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2-05-2010 @ 9:33AM
justanotherjen said...Been there, dealt with that, learned to not care what people on the internet think of my parenting. I get blasted for just about everything decision I've ever made for my kids because I don't follow the "experts" or the books or whatever. I just do my own thing.
I formula fed (by choice), cried it out, don't allow my kids to sleep in bed with me...ever (even after nightmares...they go back to their own beds), I don't take them to the doctor for every sniffle, I make them do chores starting at 2, they get their own food starting at 4, I teach them to be independent and take care of themselves, I allow them to play outside on their own starting at 5 (that's in the front yard), etc.
Eh. They can say whatever they want about me but their my kids and I'll raise them as I see fit.
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2-07-2010 @ 11:46PM
2beautiesmama said...You and I must be sisters. I got a lot of flack for my kids sleeping in their own beds from day one, not breast feeding, for allowing my kids to be independent critical thinkers, for demanding manners and respect and for good old fashioned parenting. I have watched others allow dating at 12, back talking, having 16 year olds that can't prepare a meal for themselves when mom is sick and I shake my head and think, for my kids, I know I did the right thing by them.
2-08-2010 @ 2:54AM
JenRN said...@ justanotherjen:
You formula fed the baby, and YOU cried it out? Me thinks it was the baby doing all the crying and you doing all the ignoring.
Here's the thing, if mothers don't wish to be "bullied"online for their parenting choices, then they don't need to tell other people about them!!! When you do, you open yourself up to criticism, and other people are going to want to respond because (especially the way you put it jen) they feel you are saying your way is the best way and the only way. My child was breastfed, slept in bed with me until age 1 AND if he had nightmares, never cried it out (we had a great bedtime routine, and still do!) AND he is an independant, critical thinker, but also a very sympathetic and caring person. Cry it out, spanking and bottle feeding aren't necessary to raise a smart, caring kid. Had you not thrown in the insinuation that parents who allow their children to sleep in their bed and who breastfeed and don't use cry it out are raising wimps that can't do anything for themselves, then I wouldn't have said a thing about your parenting choices - see how that works? The only time in public I'd dare say a thing to another parent is if I feel a child is being abused. Yes, it is child abuse to call your 4 year old a "stupid f'ing brat", and it is child abuse to slap your 6 year old across the face - you do these in front of me, and YOU had better watch out. Call it whatever you want, getting into your business, making trouble, etc, but I will always defend children who are being mistreated.
2-08-2010 @ 3:25AM
WhoaNelly said...Wow, I completely missed this magical "insinuation" justanotherjen supposedly infused into her comment. I think perhaps it's a little defensiveness on the part of you the responder. In fact, that's probably what leads to a lot of "cyber-bullying" (though I am inclined to think of it more as crabbing) in the first place. People read someone's comment about their personal experience and somehow feel as if they are being told they did it the wrong way. Try taking a deep breath and rereading what is actually being said before you jump to a conclusion and then publicly take another leap down someone's throat.
4-17-2011 @ 12:08AM
Amanda said...@WhoaNelly
Agreed. What I perceived from justanotherjen's post was: "This is how I raise my children. It is not the most popular method, and I have been bullied for it, but I stand by it regardless." It was not so much an attack on other parenting methods, as it was a defense of her own.
2-07-2010 @ 10:15PM
don said...When everybody become whiners
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2-07-2010 @ 10:26PM
Jill said...It seems to me in a day and age of instant communications, tweets, myspace and facebook people have often forgotten the basics of humanity. Too often people are more concerned with what is going on in other peoples bedrooms, houses and lives than their own. I was raised by a single father with my sister. He taught us that it is ok to have strong opinions, it is not ok to put others down for theirs. It's ok to be angry, it is not ok to be hateful. He taught my sister and I that family is everything and to treat others as you would be treated. We were happy kids. We are well adjusted adults with a broad understanding and acceptance of the world around us. It is easy to point at others, harder to look in a mirror. If a child is happy, taken care of and loved, then the parent is doing a great job. Only when the child is in harms way should we be so concerned with how a parent raises a child.
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2-07-2010 @ 10:38PM
glelear2 said...People who bully others online, whether they are adults or not, are sub-human and do not not have the guts to discuss matters in person. It is as simple as that.
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2-07-2010 @ 11:04PM
sherry said...I am a 46 year old mom of 8 +. The plus because we foster and hope to adopt one or more of our foster children. We have 4 adopted already. My sister-in-law seems to think she is the parent to one of my children, adopted through foster care when she was a teen. We have struggled with this child for 5 years. When I post a blog or up-date my sister-in-law goes after me, even accusing me of not wanting this child. It has caused issues between us and our daughter. Right now our daughter is living with a sexual pervert, against our wishes, and of course we have been the bad guys because we have told people what this man has done! I am sick of her judging my life when she is living a nutty life herself. Wish there was help available
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2-07-2010 @ 10:29PM
liz said...I personally could care less what someone says online about me. They don't know me and I don't know them, so I really don't care what they think, especially if they can't say it to my face. It only looks bad on them. But that's me, I don't like to associate with bourgeois types, so I just don't care how others judge me.
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2-07-2010 @ 11:58PM
jeff said...sure you do, everybody does to some extent. You wouldn't have typed that if you didn't have to reinforce what you just said.