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SmackDown: Did Air Traffic Dad Really Do Anything So Wrong?
Filed under: Opinions
Two dads duke it out over whether or not Airport Dad should be given a time out. Whose side are you on? Credit: Getty Images
Airport Dad Was Wrong.
by Brett Singer
Some people don't mind that an air traffic controller allowed his kids to chat with pilots who were flying planes in and out of one of the nation's busiest airports.
Airplane Kid's dad was just having a little fun, right? As one of our readers put it, "I wish everyone would lighten up!"
Here's what I wish: That people with important jobs would take them seriously.
It's no secret that America has gone crazy for security, especially at our airports. All it takes is one incident for a new screening procedure to be put in place. (If you're annoyed that we have to remove our shoes, blame would-be shoe bomber Richard Reid.)
Despite the legitimate questions on how effective these methods are -- remember the lovesick guy who inadvertently bypassed security at Newark Liberty International Airport in January? -- these screenings are important. It shows we're doing something.
Feeling secure while flying is what gets many of us on a plane in the first place. We might get irritated when asked to throw out our water bottles, take out our laptops and pack sunscreen into insect-sized bottles. But we do it.
So, if the first order of business is actual safety in the skies, what follows is that airport security must be treated seriously. Not seriously in a frenzied, grab-every-person-with-a-head-scarf-and-strip-search-them way. No, we simply want the people who work for the aviation industry to treat us, and the regulations, with respect.
When an air traffic controller let not one, but two of his children direct flights at New York's JFK airport, it's not cute. It's irresponsible.
"Lighten up?" How about, "Do your job." Did the air traffic controller's actions actually put anyone in danger? It would appear not, since, thankfully, no planes crashed. But what if the pilots had been startled upon hearing a child's voice on their headsets that they bumped into the steering column, causing a bit of turbulence? (I am not exactly Captain Chesley Sullenberger when it comes to piloting knowledge, in case you were wondering. Just go with me here for a minute.)
Picture this: One of the overhead bins opens and something heavy falls on your kid. OK, nobody dies. But it's pretty startling. If you say that scenario is unlikely, you are correct. But, you know what makes the possibility of pilots being startled at the sound of a child's voice coming over their headsets while they're flying a plane completely impossible? If a child isn't talking to a pilot.
I hate to be a pill, but as a dad, I know that not every situation is appropriate for children. Taking the kids to work is something all parents should do, if they can. Those last three words are the important ones. Do you want an 8-year-old manning the 911 phone lines? Or tagging along to fight a four-alarm blaze? How about preparing your food? Is that acceptable?
Besides, the official version of this practice is called "Take Our Daughters and Sons to Work Day." Not "Let Your Kids Do Your Job for You Day."
In response, the FAA has suspended the controller and his supervisor. Should they be fired? A commenter at ABCNews.com writes, "Leave him alone and get back to something important like health care or our failing budget." It's a good sound bite, except that the FAA is in charge of aviation, not health care.
Even though no harm was done, and no harm was likely to be done, letting kids direct flights is at best silly, and at worst potentially dangerous. Whether or not the workers' actions are worthy of a pink slip is up to their employer. But whatever they decide, hopefully other air traffic controllers will think twice before putting their kids on the mic.
At least while my family and I are in the air.
Tom and I want to know whose side you're on. As competitive dads (but perfectly collegial work buddies), we will be continuing this argument at the next staff meeting.
A Lot Of Yammering Over Nothing.
by Tom Henderson
Is anyone dead?
Seriously, did anyone die because an air traffic controller at JFK International in New York let his kids say a few words into a radio in the control tower?
The dad was standing right next to them. He told them what to say. Other highly trained professionals were in the room. It's not like all the adults went out for doughnuts and told the kids to take care of things until they got back.
It's not like the kids improvised what they told the pilots. "Hey, Jet Blue 57, this is New York. Can you do a loop-de-loop? That would be totally awesome!"
None of that happened. All that did happen was that 49-year-old air traffic controller Glenn Duffy brought his son to work on Feb. 17 and his daughter the following day. Now, Duffy and the supervisor on duty have been suspended, and the nation's hens are clucking about the horror of it all.
Those in the hen house, do us all a favor. Take a deep breath.
Think about this. Aren't there better targets for your righteous indignation? If you simply have to pop a blood vessel over something, pick an issue that isn't so astoundingly trivial.
Again -- and I cannot stress this enough -- no one died. No one was in danger of dying. No one risked so much as a hangnail.
That's not just my expert appraisal as a guy who knows absolutely nothing about directing millions of tons in metal through the air. The Washington Post talked with Ross Aimer, a United Airlines pilot with more than 40 years of experience as a pilot. He backs me up on all this.
"I have listened to the ATC tapes [Air Traffic Control] and in my opinion I can assure everyone that at no time was safety compromised," he tells the Post.
Aimer confirms Duffy was there with his finger on the radio, ready to take over. It was a slow time at JFK. But if anything had gone wrong, Duffy would have stepped in immediately. And let's get something else straight. Duffy did not let his kids direct flights.
"Simply repeating words your dad tells you is not directing," Aimer tells the Post. "If it were, we could hire anyone to do this job and just give them a handbook with no training."
In an online chat with Post readers, Aimer talked with a retired air traffic controller who saw a lot of this type of stuff in his 26 years on the job.
"This is far from being the first time that this type of thing was done using either children, female visitors with sexy voices or others," he told Aimer. "Nor is it unique to the folks on the ground. I've known pilots to use flight attendants to handle the radio transmissions."
OK, I grant you, what Duffy did was not terribly responsible. But you know what's really irresponsible? The way we in the media latch on to these trivial but sensational stories and blow them all out of reasonable proportion.
The retired air traffic controller is right. These things used to happen all the time. People just didn't notice because they had lives. They were too busy to huff and puff about every trivial news item. And the stories didn't get reported in the first place. Reporters were too busy covering things like wars and Watergate.
I used to take my son to work. I took him with me to cover fires when he was a preschooler. This would have been a problem if he had squealed, "Whee! Fire fun!" and ran into the burning building. It could have happened. But there is a yawning chasm between what could happen and what will likely happen. People need to learn the difference.
And for all the hens out there, please don't sit near me on the airplane. Your clucking interferes with my naps.











ReaderComments (Page 1 of 41)
3-04-2010 @ 9:19PM
NYCBruce said...I cannot believe the number of posters that are saying "no harm, no foul" in an instance as critical as this. You know damn well those same people would be screaming and hollering for someone's head had this "prank" gone as horribly wrong as it could have. The people flying on those planes were not given a choice of whether or not to participate in this idiot father's "experiment". They expected real, professional air traffic controllers to manage their flights.
What could have happened had the child screwed up when parroting the lines given him by his father? Can you remember "Teneriff" and the 500+ passengers that died? At the VERY least this man needs to be suspended and made to do some serious re-training, because he obviously does not take his job seriously!
3-04-2010 @ 8:11PM
Joann said...Sorry but I do not think an air traffic controller should be able to take their children to work, "EVER." Their full attention needs to be on the screen and their full attention needs to be on the job and not be distracted by children talking, playing, asking quesions or the simple fact of trying to entertain them to keep them from getting bored.
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3-04-2010 @ 8:12PM
irene said...I agree Joan 100%
3-04-2010 @ 8:20PM
patty said...we don't know whether dad was inattentive to his duties because we weren't there. obviously, he WAS watching the monitors because he was telling the son what to say.
give him a few days' suspension and get over it. obviously, the FAA didn't have an SOP for this (shame on the FAA) and now it will
3-04-2010 @ 8:38PM
Jayme said...I agree Joan, The father should be FIRED, we are becoming to Liberal, and not making people responsible for their decisions. Yes, it was fortunate that nothing happened this time, but this should have never have occurred, If you would have asked all of the passengers on board, if they wanted their lives to be in the hands of a minor traffic controller, what would they have said? I for one definately would have said "NO" if I was asked that question prior to boarding the flight. Let's hold people responsible for their actions.
3-04-2010 @ 8:43PM
Milton said...Obviously the negative responses are from people who are not pilots and have no knowledge of the captain's training. As a retired ATP, the light touch is handled exactly for what it is and never a reason for doubt. Taught to expect certain phrasology with read-backs and to accept or reject a clearance is the captain's responsibility. Before controllers are permitted to excercise control of aircraft, they've gone thru years and years of training at higher and higher levels of responsibility. To pontificallty acuse that particular controller as careless or irresponsible is akin to the malinformed misinforming the uninformed.
3-05-2010 @ 1:21PM
Mark Guarino said...I think maybe they also let the family dog or cat in the control tower. Why not let the family bird in also. Air Traffic controllers attention must be on the radar screens not watching their kids who might inadvertently hit a button and jeopardize many lives. I believe the supervisor and controller should be suspended for 6 months to send other controller the message. No visitors whatsoever in control tower. If you want to make points with your kids don't do it at someone else's risk. Forget about your lightening up like some readers have suggested. This is serious business. Mark
3-04-2010 @ 8:44PM
Susan said...Agree totally. This is a huge safety issue. He's sitting there, thinking his little seed are unbearably cute, while the lives of hundreds, even thousands, of people are jeopardized. It not only shows a lapse in judgement, it shows a lapse in professionalism. I would never want to fly with someone's friggin' kid in the tower!!!!
I hope these people are fired. It sends a message. If they just 'reprimand' them, it won't stop this type of dangerous crap. I mean, look what happened when a person in the tower turned their attention away in Kentucky a year or so ago? They sent a jet down the wrong runway and people died. Do you think having a kid in the tower at one of the world's busiest airports is a good thing? If so, then you're one of those sicko-parents who are so self-involved and who thinks your kids are so adorable, that the rest of the world is sickened by you. If you subject innocent people to your so-called 'adorable seed', then you need to be fired too.
3-04-2010 @ 8:46PM
John Clark said...DAD was right there! In control the hole time! People worry way to much about other people. Did u listen to him talk. Are u a mother? U should be proud!!!!!!!!!!!!! When people are driving down the street, and there kids are actin up. How many peoples lives are in danger? What is your kid doin right now? Is there dad in their life? Can u teach a boy to become a man? How do u think kids learn? Air trafic control or drugs, beatin woman,killing,makin babies, whatever negitive thing there is. DADS just can't get a break... FUK OFF
3-04-2010 @ 8:55PM
sue said...Joann I agree i love kids but this was stupid.
3-04-2010 @ 8:53PM
rpl said...Nicely stated. Also, word of that tomfoolery undermines public confidence in an ATC system that works pretty well. The two ATC fools have gotten off very lightly, being suspended WITH PAY -- so their stupidity has been rewarded with a paid vacation. This is obviously not a way for the FAA to make its ATC employees or the flying public take them seriously, but rather is an example of the conflicts of interest that arise when a regulatory agency has dual identity as a promoter of the industry being regulated. Disgusting.
3-04-2010 @ 9:04PM
Frank said...Joan,Jayme,Susan.Irene and Lindee he should not loose his job and he probably wont just like the survey shows above.Why dont you 5 shut up go clean the house, cook dinner and shut your traps and stay off the computer!!!
3-04-2010 @ 9:04PM
ERNIE said...I AGREE JOANN,,,IF THIS GUY WANTS TO TAKE HIS KIDS TO WORK AND PARTICIPATE LET HIM GET A JOB IN A BOWLING ALLEY......SOME JOBS REQUIRE THAT HIGH STANDARDS BE MAINTAINED...I SUPPOSE IF YOU PEOPLE THAT THINK WHAT HE DID IS ALRIGHT THEN EVERY AIR TRAFFIC CONTROLLER SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO DO THE SAME THING.........
3-04-2010 @ 9:11PM
dan said...Totally agree- not only unprofessional but totally stupid
- anyone who thinks like that shouldn't be anywhere near
anyone elses life- I hope he is fired and banned from ever
working anywhere involving lives-
not cute
3-04-2010 @ 9:23PM
Olddude said...I agree with Joann also. I believe that any mom has only one job and that is to make sure that her kids are in good health and prevented from getting hurt. Any mom that has her child injured should have her kids removed from her care and they should be placed in foster care. OHHHHHHH!!!!!! YOU, don't think that is fair or right, well its a lot more important than what happened to with those air controlers. At no time was anything that mattered ever compremised and it wasn't like it caused any real problems. I am sure that the dad told those kids that they had to do and say everything exactly as he told them to and I also assume since everything went as it should that they did that also. Birds shitting into the engine's are a hugely larger safety problem than what happened in that control tower. I have had pilots training have you? It's true that the controllers job is a safety job and it must be done right to maintain that safety but nothing say's that it has to be a boreing job as long as the safety is maintained. Get a life and do your own job at home and stop your clucking about things you have no actual knowledge about.
3-04-2010 @ 9:23PM
Ethan said...I agree Joann! Both the controller and his supervisor should be fired. As someone who travels non-stop for work, you can better believe I'm concerned with what goes on in the tower and in the air. As for Tom Henderson who wrote the other article advocating stupidity, he's an idiot.
3-04-2010 @ 9:37PM
Michael H said...Joann, Irene, Jayme et al:
It is obvious that none of you who feel this was an unpardonable lapse has ever sat in the front left seat of an aircraft.
As a 3200 hour pilot who flies "in the system"on a regular basis, I have no problem with this. Dad WAS plugged in on a separate headset and monitored all the transmissions, the child, since (s)he was parroting dad, used perfect phraseology, and,upon listening to the tapes, it is obvious when more detailed instructions were required, dad handled the transmission.
We don't have enough Full Performance Level Controllers left in the FAA "bullpen". The little I heard of Glenn Duffy shows a real pro. Leave him be to do his job.
3-04-2010 @ 9:37PM
coby said...hey he should not be fired what he cant talk 2 his own kid come on give him a chance you people would do the same if it was your kid
3-04-2010 @ 9:49PM
James said...safe operation rests with the pilot. with that said there is nothing that could have gone wrong. Get a grip people...You worry warts have pretty much screwed up this country. Thanks
Take your panties out of their knot
Do any of you people bitching even fly? I don't mean as a passanger...
3-04-2010 @ 10:03PM
Controller A said...I disagree with Joann. First of all the controller in a tower should be looking out the window not at the radar screen. Second the controller had immediate override capability. It was not the smartest move in the world but it is similar to putting a new trainee on position and having them make a transmission or two. Actually this kid was better because the child was parroting his dad and a newbie controller is trying to figure out what to do.
Firing the controller is a HUGE mistake. Do you know how few controllers can make the grade at JFK? Since the training has renewed at the Academy and beginning controllers have been sent to JFK to learn - NOT ONE -and I repeat - NOT ONE has certified in the tower. It is simply too hard for a novice controller. Two controllers who are capable of doing this job should not be fired but congratulated for being able to cut it at this level of facility.
Firing someone in an already short staffed facility makes the facility or tower less safe.
BTW, the FAA did make an immediate ruling of no visitors in the control environment.