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Cabin Fever reporting live from underneath the seats of our local cinema. The box of popcorn has been dumped. The floor is sticky. The 23-month-old has just discovered that he can crawl under this row to the one behind us. I've just discovered that I can't. And fellow movie-goers are shushing us incessantly. Whose idea was this? Oh, right. Mine.
It's a matinee movie for kids. I have kids. Two of them love going to the movies (ages eight and seven). One of them thinks Curious George is terrifying (age four). And the last of the lot thinks he's at an exciting darkened playground (the aforementioned toddler). Remind me: Where did I go wrong?
Before my husband and I had kids of our own, but while we were in the honeymoon stage of fantasizing about parenthood, we vowed never ever to torment the childless by bringing our future children to inappropriate venues. Such as: movie theatres, fancy restaurants, and rock concerts. Not surprisingly, we had this conversation at a fancy restaurant while being tormented by someone else's children at the table next to ours, who clearly should have stayed home with a babysitter.
In the nine years hence, we've broken every pledge (if outdoor folk festival counts as rock concert).
Judgment. It's everywhere. And as you judge, so shall you be judged ... mother of four whose smallest has escaped, with squeals of delight, into the dark recesses of a theatre filled with disapproving patrons who hate you right now...
From my position here underneath the theatre seats, with the shushes of angry movie-goers raining down upon me, I can't help but ask... Do we live in a culture that privileges the child beyond all reason, or do we live in a culture that is secretly child-intolerant?
Excuse me for just one moment while I vault over these seats in pursuit of my irrational, delightful, squeezable, noisy bundle of joy. He is my bundle of joy. I do understand that he's not yours. But this is a matinee movie for children, not an R-rated thriller on after 9PM. It would seem to be an appropriate venue to bring children. Yes, I do see your point, thank you. Toddlers may not technically qualify as children under section two of the old-enough-to-attend-matinee-movies code. I see your point, but hear me out.
I think our culture likes children in theory. We like the idea of matinee movies during March Break, but we don't much like the children who come to these movies and behave like children. We think: why can't that mother control her offspring? Why didn't she get a babysitter, or just stay home? Listen, I think the same thing sometimes, especially when my own children are on their best behaviour.
I think our culture likes the accessories that accompany children more than the children themselves. We fetishize the stuff designed for babies, toddlers and children. We coo over the little leather booties and the bamboo-fabric crib sheets and the hand-crafted wooden toys. We covet the beautifully embroidered diaper bag that doesn't look like a diaper bag. I know all about it. I want that stuff, too. But the very fact of all this stuff, the existence of an industry that revolves around (let's face it) not entirely necessary equipment, is not proof that we are a culture that privileges the child. It proves only that we are a culture that likes stuff -- and even more, we like excuses to get more stuff.
And after surrounding ourselves and our children with all this aesthetically desirable gear, we parents discover that most people, even other parents, don't really want to be bothered by our (admittedly, sometimes, annoying) children.
An odd paradox, isn't it? It might actually be true that children are better behaved, and held more to account, in cultures that are more open to the participation and integration of children into every day life. Where it's normal to see children out and about, being children.
Phew. I've caught him. He's not happy about it. The two big kids are oblivious, happy to stay and watch the rest of the movie on their own, but the four-year-old wants to be held, too. Yes, that's us you hear exiting awkwardly, with a squawk of protest. We'll hang out in the lobby till the movie's over. We'll annoy some more people by talking to each other, running around a little bit, and (four-year-old) practicing whining. And we'll smile at you, and chat, if you'd like, too.
And you know, I think we'll come back and try another matinee again soon. You can come, too. Bring the kids.











ReaderComments (Page 2 of 2)
3-29-2010 @ 3:18PM
Calvin said...The issue here is today's parent wants to be their child's friend and NOT a parent! Most adults under 30 have been spoiled and have not had the luxury....yes I said luxury....of being disciplined. Now they are taking the "my world is a play ground and I can do anything I want to because I don't worry about rules" mentality with their own children. My wife and I have four children - most of them grown now and parents always asked us for our secert of how we had such well behaved children. Simple - as most of the others here commented - discipline. They earned the right to go to a nice eating establishment with us. If they behaved poorly, then they were not invited the next time. Natural consequences - period! They have all turned out to be very community minded, giving, young adults - who would like to talk to parents that can't parent:-) We love our children and children in general, but when we have the chance to get away on holidays, dinner or a movie as a couple - control your children people. Become PARENTS!
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3-29-2010 @ 3:39PM
Jay said...Excellent, I agree. Sometimes the parents need a smack to wake them up. I have taught kids for for only 30 years and I have been in control. Some parents can't control one. What the ????
3-29-2010 @ 9:41PM
Mox said...I don't think its that everyone under 30 was spoiled...I'm only 22 and was brought up in a very strict household, and a lot of other people my age were too. I think one thing is that we don't have fond memories of it and "want to give our kids what we never had"... and also there's the fact that a lot of people who have kids probably shouldn't. Like the article mentioned, society likes the idea of kids, and so do a lot of parents, but actually can't deal with kids themselves. I decided never to have kids, I like kids and I like the idea of kids, but I wouldn't know what to do when there is trouble, like being a brat in public.
3-29-2010 @ 3:58PM
God said...WHAT PLANET ARE YOU FROM CARRIE ?. This is earth and you and your kids are NOT the only ones at a movie or any other public place. YOU are rude and have no respect for other people.
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3-29-2010 @ 4:25PM
Oh, Please. said...Carrie, I think it's awesome that you are brave enough to admit to breaking your own pre-child rules AND subject yourself to the (unnecessarily harsh) judgment of commenters here. Because no one here has EVER been subject to glares and shushes by other people when their kids make a peep in public, right? Riiiight.
Kudos to you for taking your wee one out of the theatre to hang out with you when he started being adventurous. It is more than a lot of parents would do. I've had the misfortune of being in restaurants and in other public places with some very badly behaved children. Exhibit A: There was one little boy standing in the middle of an aisle at a store and when I said "excuse me," and smiled, to walk around him, he barked back with "Gooooo! MOVE!" His mother laughed and cooed at him. Yes. Adorable. *eye roll*
For anyone to call you inconsiderate or rude, Carrie, is laughable -- the fact that you had the presence of mind to go hang out in the lobby and not disrupt the movie for others tells me that you are VERY considerate, and that you're a great role model for your kids. So all I can say is, thank you. Thanks for being a considerate parent.
Looking forward to your next post!
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3-29-2010 @ 4:27PM
rmaither said...article is just spin from another inept current-day parent who's never learned to properly control her own kids
hypocritical too, she feels annoyance at others' kids doing similar disruptive behavior - lol
lucky for her that the current society we live in is more parent-indulgent than it is child-intolerant
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3-29-2010 @ 10:56PM
EriVivi said...we take our kids everywhere and we also were people who didn't think children should be in public place if they don't behave properly... Our kids weel behave 80% of the time, we won't stop taking them to place because we disturbed some people 20% of our precious time as family...
Sorry people, you just need to learn to respect children of today, same way you were respected when you were a kid... This is what society is all about.
BTW, my twins are 19 months old... and it's already a lot of work and it takes a lot of courage to go out with them. We pay our bill at the restaurant just like everyone else, why can't we enjoy it, too?
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3-29-2010 @ 11:04PM
Sam said...One thing that really gets on my nerves about kids at a movie theatre( I work there, and I'm an usher, which means i clean the shows inbetween) is the fact that they almost NEVER pick up their trash. The parents just let them throw their trash on the ground(them including) and half the time the said kid's packs are FULL barely even touched. Hell, the candy they pack with the kid's pack are not even opened...so I suppose thats one bonus...hehehe free food :P
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3-30-2010 @ 1:26AM
intollerant said...When I shush in a situation like this, I'm shushing the "parent" whom is without the common decency to teach their kids how to behave BEFORE entering a questionable situation. Can't blame the child, it's not his/her fault; he/she has never received the proper training. Matinee or not, rated G movie or not (G doesn't mean only kids are meant to see it!). Every person in that theater paid at least $7 to see that movie, not listen to someone's brat scream and run around like it's their living room (BTW at my house, that behavior is not tolerated in the living room either... ITS CALLED TRAINING!) And try to avoid 3 pounds of sugar right before you go inside please.
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3-30-2010 @ 4:02PM
ReadilyAParent said...Wow,
I think the comments have proven the article. Guess what. There is always going to be a first time somewhere. So how do we know if our children can handle the theatre until we take them? We pick a children's matinee and give it a try. And if they can't, we do like Carrie and head out to the lobby. How is what she did wrong?
If she had let her older children go to the theatre by themselves you'd be calling her negligent. So I guess she's just supposed to keep them stuck at home and keep her child out of sight out of mind for the rest of you.
Children in restuarants. Well, we don't normally do that. One we can't afford it. Two it's too stressful on us. But guess what! Sometimes people have to travel with their children. And sometimes that means eating out. Unless you prefer we leave them in the hotel room while we go eat out so they can be kidnapped like Madelaine McCann.
If you'll recall, when you were children and raised your children (all those who are saying "parents these days" - I'm assuming you're older) children pretty much roamed free and had their own world seperate from parents. Nowadays letting your child roam free is frowned upon and parents are forced to bring their children out.
Maybe instead of tsk tsking or glaring you could try offering a helping hand. Because back "in your day" people did that too.
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3-31-2010 @ 3:45PM
ABORTMISSION said...It's just common courtesy not to bring a child who is going to wail and run around in a place where 'Silence is Golden.' Get grandma to baby sit for a couple hours.
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9-22-2010 @ 12:30AM
Sam said...I get it, social decency and all that shit. But guess what? They're kids, so how about BEFORE we shove all of this down their tiny throats we let them be what they are for a bit? Maybe it's just cause I'm a kid myself, but whenever I hear babies screaming or crying in a movie theater or toddlers running around the store, I never feel angry at them or the parents, I just think of how hard it must be to handle them and how they just want to do anything other than sit still and not talk. Is it too much to ask of society to let them be as they are or do they have to grow up at the age of 4?
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