Meet the New American Mom: Older, Educated and (Possibly) Unmarried

So, Eric and William,

Your main issue is not the birth rate among older, unmarried women ... but with the fact that these women are not white? And Eric, you might be surprised at the number of "white" kids on welfare. But your statement seems to imply that your issue (problem) is with non-white kids being on welfare...or upon deeper examination...non-whites, period.

One last note to William...

Euro White Christians were not the founders of the western civilization. Euro White Christians came to western lands already inhabited by non-white persons and eradicated or enslaved those non-white, true natives of the lands. Euro White Christians were nothing more than invaders and conquerers of that which didn't belong to them. Particularly true of the Americas and the middle and near East.

Although it's ridiculous to have to post this disclaimer ... here goes... I'm a white female. Mostly German and Irish. Because my great grandfather was half native American Indian...I am also native American Indian to a very small degree. My forefathers were both conquerers and the conquered.

If either of you believe that a particular skin color and religion should conquer and rule ... you are no better than the racist, religious extremists from other nations and, sadly enough, our own nation. You also lack knowledge, reason, and Truth.

Eric, take your racist mentality somewhere else. By making the extremely ridiculous statement that "most of the Hispanic mothers don't count since they are all illegal aliens" you just show how ignorant you are. Though most Latin-Americans are Hispanics (meaning their ancestors were from Spain but they were born outside of Spain), not all Hispanics are Latin-Americans, for example. Get over yourself. The world is a mixed place. People of all colours are related, whether it is to your liking or not. The concept of "Race" is not only outdated, it is completely false. Educate yourself by reading, a lot. You don't need a college education to read..All you need is an interest to know, that is all. Holding on to false beliefs is not only self-defeating, it is a waste of your true potential as a human being.

lagerente:

I have no doubt that I am more well-read than you, so telling me to read in order to match your discredited politically correct views is silly. I'm not racist, I'm just not politically correct. "Racist" is a meaningless word anyway, which only applies to white males these days, when a white male says something that others would rather not hear, whether it's true or not. You mean you didn't know that? I guess you should start reading more. And race doesn't exist, really? I guess Obama ISN'T the first black President then. I guess his mother ISN'T white and his father ISN'T a black African, right? If race doesn't exist, why was the left wing media so happy to mention those facts? Face it, race DOES exist, and there is nothing more ignorant than to suggest that the concept of "race" is false. Try reading more.

And if you read more, maybe you'd be aware of the writings of REAL conservatives (not the fake ones you see on Fox News), such as Pat Buchanan, who clearly outline how the U.S. is under assault by uncontrolled third-world immigration. That's a very real phenomenon, one that even the leftists are very well aware of, further proving that race does, in fact, exist. So yes, the illegal immigrant Hispanic mothers do not count. Deal with it. Maybe if you read a little more, you'd be aware of all of this. Good thing you have me to explain these things to you, right?

You seem to like saying peoples' comments are meaningless. However, I say you are the meaningless one. Let's take this apart, piece by piece, hmm?

1) you say Hispanic mothers don't count since their all illegal aliens.

Wrong. To participate in a study like this, they have to have the proper documentation. Scientific studies are conducting in a professional manner, not willy nilly. Even so called 'random' surveys are not completely random, information is taken from the hospitals. If they were doing a world birth rate, sure, that comment would have some validity, but as this was limited to the US, it doesn't. Information was given whether the mothers were US citizens or not.

2) You claim whites will have to foot the bill for non whites? Wrong again. People are born with the same amount of potential. you always hear stories about how someone was born poor, but was able to become rich because of a certain skill or ability. While not everyone gets famous, nine tenths of children born into 'welfare' homes actually do well for themselves later on.

3) Half the kids being born are not going to be white. Wrong again. Take a look back into your own ancestry. 'white' actually refers to a Caucasian person of European or Germanic heritage. No one is entirely white. If you traced your ancestry back far enough, you would find that you, like all of us, are mixed race. Thus, making Race nearly a moot point, because you are only counting the 'majority' race. You don't get to pick and choose, really. You can say you're white all you want, if you have a single ancestor from, say, Ireland,guess what? you're not white.

3) You seem to have a very, and I mean very, split view. According to you, all whites are well educated, have jobs, and pay taxes. INCREDIBLY WRONG. Allow me to quote here.

"Social Security is the nation’s largest welfare program, although many Whites prefer to call it a retirement plan. What millions of Black Americans pay into the system ends up going to Whites who retire and Social Security is the biggest type of welfare. Some 61 percent of welfare recipients are White, while 33 percent are Black, according to 2000 Census Bureau statistics. ~~~The government writes retirement and disability benefit checks to 35.4 million recipients of whom 88.7 percent are White and 9.6 percent are Black. ~~~"

Startling? Let me continue.

Program Recipients Black White
Social Security (1)
Retirement insurance 26 Million 7.7% 90.4%
Disability insurance 3.7 Million 18.3% 79.3%
Survivor’s benefits 1.8 Million 24% 72%
Widow’s benefits 4.9 Million 9% 90.1%
Supplemental
Security Income 5.8 Million 26% 48.2%
Aid to Families with Dependent Children (2)
3.8 Million 39.2% 55.2%
Medicare 37 Million 8.1% 88% (3)
Medicaid 33.4 Million 25.1% 46.1% (4)
Food Stamps 27.5 Million 34.9% 42.3% (5)
Women, Infants and Children (WIC) Food Program (6)
5.8 Million 27.8% 44.3%
National Student Lunch Program (7)
44.5 Million 17% 75%
Veterans’ Benefits 26 Million 8.0% 86.4% 8
Housing Subsidies 4.7 Million 40% 46% (9)

What does all this mean?

While Black and latino's do tend to be on the books for things like afdc and other benefits more, you've gotta think about why. A lot of the time, its for only 1-2 years, or for an even shorter amount of time. A transitional phrase, so to speak. Whites on the other hand, tend to stay on it as long as they can. Also, blacks and latinos tend to go on with their lives after grief or accidents. A white person tends to get what they can out of the government for it.

an example here would be- a white person, if they break their leg at work, sues and gets rich off of the company and the government, taking it for all its worth. A black person in the same situation, or a latino in the same situation, would wait till the cast was off and be RIGHT BACK AT WORK.

Also, all those taxes the black and latino people pay, go straight to whites. Most whites retire as soon as the can, whereas a black or latino person rarely does.

So, if your racist beliefs can take the hint, lets follow the logic. Are whites paying for non whites........ no. It's the other way around.

Get over it, and stop the racist drivel.

Wow, Kookie, what twisted logic. So, in your world, a teen mom getting preganant is OK as long as she has another teen guy willing to marry her. As to the daycare issue, eh, plenty of married women also work and put their kids in daycare because they work. As to calling single mothers not real mothers, well -- I'll be a gentleman and not call you a name you deseve. I'll leave that to others. Have a nice day, Kookie.

When you are such a freak in your own country, it's theirs. The stress of paying for that must be incomprehensible, and I've seen alot of mentally ill people out and about and much more is to come. Women having a job soared to a freak level too, where if you didn't make enough or have one my god instead of helping you to have a life, people will make your life worse; they will even have disdain for you. People are only out to enhance their own lives. We have empty vessels for too many men who have been disabled from having to be a man, and by so many around them, all the while claiming it was "realistic" that the women pay half a mortgage. Well now it's realistic that they lose it all. All of the psychological dynamics that come into play over this money and acquisition of materialism have resulted in men with a great job only marrying women with the same career. Other men have the job of a housewife. In either case, women are not protected for this. I know some of them are ingrate leeches for life, but you can tell the difference and prevent that. Unfortunately too many women realize too late that it isn't going to be fun for them to support themselves from 40 on whether married or not, and if they can even get a job. And the men, well, they are getting a taste of their own medicine permanently; they sure aren't getting help from me after suffering through this damage from sexual liberation; liberated; hah! Chained to a desk the rest of their life with no power is more like it.

I guess I'm the only one who agrees with you. But you know what? I think it's not so much about who invaded who but rather when Europeans and anyone from another country came to America, they ASSIMILATED. Americans didn't have to learn their language to get a job, they learned the language and the ways of their new home. Yes, they kept their traditions and they were proud of where they came from but they didn't get pissed off when someone from America didn't speak their language. It's not racist, it's called telling it like it is. How about you guys look online at some job postings in states like California and Texas and Arizona and see how many of them say "Bilingual preferred". If you're white and you have kids, tell them good luck in finding a job when they get older. Oh yeah, and is it racist when I say I've heard several "non-whites" say they are on welfare because they believe it's "owed to them"? I didn't say it, they did. I quote what you said Eric, "just like the majority of white Americans today are not descendants of Southern slave owners", so why are we with the educations having to pay for something we didn't even do? Maybe they should be the one's reading books, and lots of them. But why try to better yourself when the government will support you all throughout your life? Racist? I think not. Just not oblivious and naive. Good job Eric! I wish I knew more people like you.