Missed Parent-Teacher Conferences Could Mean Jail Time for Parents
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DETROIT (AP) _ The night Demarco Harris shot and killed a woman during a robbery on a Detroit street, his parents told police knocking on their door at 2 a.m. they didn't know where their 12-year-old was.
Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy said that's indicative of a larger issue in Detroit, where the lack of making parents accountable for their children partly is blamed on elevated truancy and dropout rates, as well as a recent rash of violent crimes involving teens.
Worthy has a new idea she hopes will fix the problem: Jail parents for up to three days for repeatedly missing scheduled parent-teacher conferences.
"I have seen that younger and younger children are committing more violent acts and we need to look at different approaches," Worthy told reporters. "I know we need to try something different. We should not have to legislate this, but what we have been doing is not working."
She's still working on the details, but once her proposal is finished, she hopes to present it to county commissioners in August and persuade them to approve an ordinance. After that, she may take it to state legislators in Lansing.
It's unlikely to quickly become an ordinance because it would probably be challenged in court because civil libertarians say it may be outside the law. Even some teachers, who often spend several hours waiting for parents who don't show up for the conferences, are skeptical.
"I understand the prosecutor's concern, but jail time?" said Detroit middle school teacher Ann Crowley.
Worthy first considered her proposal after a spate of shootings involving students that culminated in the June 2009 wounding of seven teens at a city bus stop. The Demarco Harris' trial convinced her she was on the right track.
He had been in and out of school a lot and his parents rarely met with his teachers. Then came Aug. 1 2009 when authorities were investigating a killing.
"When police went to his parents, his parents were not able to account for his whereabouts and it was about 2 in the morning," Worthy said.
Harris, who is now 13, was convicted in May of killing 24-year-old Trisha Babcock. He was sentenced to a high-security juvenile lockup.
"We're trying to prevent any more Demarco Harrises from going down that road," Worthy said.
Under her plan, Wayne County parents would be required to pick a time and day to attend one parent-teacher conference a year. If that conference is missed, the school would send out a letter to set up another within 14 days. If the second is missed, parents get a letter about sanctions, which could include up to three days in jail.
Parents with health concerns and those whose children are performing above average could be exempt. "I'm not interested in putting parents in jail if their children are high achievers," Worthy said.
Currently attendance at parent-teacher conferences isn't mandatory, and Worthy's plan may be challenged because it could infringe on a parent's civil rights.
"A criminal justice solution is not the answer to complicated social problems," said Kary Moss, executive director of Michigan's American Civil Liberties Union. "The last thing many families in dire situations need is more punishment by the criminal justice community. There's established law already that governs child abuse and neglect, and that sets up the standard for involvement by the government in the family's affairs."
There doesn't appear to be any existing legislation similar to what Worthy wants. She didn't know of any and the National Conference of State Legislatures, which tracks state laws, didn't know of one. Similar proposals in Texas and Kentucky have failed.
Republican Kentucky state Rep. Adam Koenig submitted a bill last year that didn't make it out of committee. It would have required parents to attend at least one conference with teachers for each child in school. Failure to do so would have meant a $50 fine.
"I wanted to get parental involvement in the schools more attention," Koenig said. "There's a reluctance to fine parents who are often viewed as too busy. I'm of the opinion that there's a lot of people who've paid taxes to have these kids learn. Parents have some responsibility."
The 2007 Texas bill called for fining parents $500 and charging them with a misdemeanor for missing a scheduled parent-teacher conference.
Making sure Detroit students make it to school and stay there through the end of the day has long been a problem. The average student missed 46 days last school year.
Worthy's office penalizes parents and guardians for school truancy. But by the time prosecutors get involved, large chunks of classroom time already have been missed. Hundreds of cases are reviewed each year, but only 50 or so result in prosecution. Educational neglect is a misdemeanor that carries up to 90 days in jail and a fine for parents. Older students could end up in juvenile court.
Derek Muhammad, who has a son in high school, has never attended a conference with a teacher, saying it's hard to find the time while working. The 40-year-old said it's also up to students to understand what's required of them in terms of school achievement and positive behavior.
"Anytime you're talking about a penalty that will take away the parent from the child who already is in trouble, then you have a very dangerous outcome," said Muhammad, a motivational speaker. "There's anger from the student, time away from the parent and hostility toward whatever caused that, and that's the school system."
Caught in the middle are teachers, who want to help students succeed, but struggle to compel parents to have the same interest.
Former Detroit special education teacher Emily Williams said it was disheartening when 3 out of 15 parents would attend meetings.
"Sometimes I would call home. Sometimes the phone was cut off. If you send a letter home, sometimes it wouldn't get to the parents," she said.
Instead of jailing parents, Williams suggests Worthy give them community service.
"A lot (of homes) are headed by single parents," she said. "If momma is not coming home, who is going to watch the kids?"











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7-10-2010 @ 9:52PM
d1anaw said...It's about time someone started demanding accountability on the part of parents. All these people want to claim it is a god-given right to spit out as many children as you feel like, regardless if you want to, are capable of or able to care for them once they are born or not. That needs to stop. If you don't want to be held accountable, there is an easy solution, don't have children. I'm sick of people who have children they cannot afford to care for or don't want to be bothered caring for and dumping the consequences on everyone else. No one forces anyone to have children, but they can sure as hell force them to care for them when they choose to do so.
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7-10-2010 @ 10:01PM
JEB BUCKINGHAM said...Maybe if the parents of those two high school hoods at Columbine had gone to parent-teacher conferences, there wouldn't have been the tragedy that occured at Columbine High School. Maybe they would have discovered what was going on in their sons' heads.
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7-10-2010 @ 10:04PM
Tom said...lets see. first we remove the pledge of alliegance, then we remove GOD all together from schools , then comes the jail time for spanking ,now we are having troubles so somebody suggests jailing parents for not attending parent/teacher conferences. schools have too much authority over our children as it is, I for one am glad my 3 children are done with that crap, yet, i dread my grandchildren having to endure it. either pardon my spelling or not. I didnt feel spellcheck was worthy .
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7-10-2010 @ 10:07PM
savedsinner83 said...Note this people, especially if you vote Democrat and think this is wrong. Another city controlled by Democrats, trying to control our lives. The party who wants to stop you from eating trans-fat, close down soda vending machines, and at the same time legalize pot. Wake up people and STOP VOTING DEMOCRAT.
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7-10-2010 @ 10:08PM
Monique said...Take all these kids that want to play with guns and ship them to Iraq or Afganistan. It's not always the parents fault when their children become unmanagable. Parents can't be with them 24/7 to make sure they're not associating with the wrong people in school or after. And some of these kids can become downright abusive towards their parents. It's very scary when you're affraid of your own child.
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7-10-2010 @ 10:14PM
J Lea said...When the parents are in jail, who will be caring for the kid then? Dumbasses. Why not just put the kid in jail? Geez.
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7-10-2010 @ 10:22PM
Jerome Crosson said...Nice try, but the a law would undoubtedly be ruled unconstitutional.
The problem is poor parenting (no surprise); try making the parents
attend court each and every time their child is caught - breaking curfew, vandalism, auto theft; whatever. Maybe it's too late for this generation, but the fix has to start somewhere.
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7-10-2010 @ 10:30PM
basketpam said...This is getting just ridiculous in our country. Is this America or is this communist Russia? Since when did we vote school boards the ability to have people arrested for not attending parent/teacher conferences? But I guess I shouldn't expect any less from the same country that allows school systems to have people charged and arrested who cheer for their children at graduation ceremonies. That one made me sick to my stomach that such a thing could happen in our country. Now while it's good common sense that ANY adults in chage of any children should do everything in their power to keep them in school and try to help the school system with their children, this is NOT criminal behavior is they don't. Best I could tell so far it's not against the law to just be a bad parent as long as you don't harm or neglect the child. I'm not saying it's a good thing, just that it's not criminal. Actually the school teachers and the board members can mostly blame themselves for the poor attention to these stupid things. I don't know a parent in the entire country who doesn't think that these conferences are a phenomonal waste of time for the most part. Just about 100% of the time they accomplish nothing and usually end up causing the adult to miss paying work and sometimes even getting in trouble at work. So where are we up to now here in the States? So far we've tasered 6 year olds, expelled 8 year olds because someone doesn't like something on their shirt, suspended a girl over a haircut, arrested family members for cheering at graduation and now we're going to give parents jail time for missing a conference. Oh we're doing good so far. All of this is REALLY going to fix all the educational and societal problems in our country. You know, I used to be just about the most proud American that ever walked the streets, but over the last 10 years as I see any resemblence of good common sense or rational thinking flow down the sewer system I have slowly become ashamed of our country and what's happening to it. Every day when I think I've heard it all, it just can't get any worse, here comes something else so incredibly stupid it's one for the books. Folks, we already have every level of government regulating and taxing us literally to death, what more do they want? How much longer are the American people going to let themselves be pushed around by a bunch of paper-pushers who do nothing but sit behind a desk all day long and don't really accomplish anything? Think about it, just what do school board members actually do? Spend our tax money you work so hard for and just keep creating miserable envrionments for our children to spend 6 hours a day. Our public schools are slowly becoming little Nazi prison camps. Pretty soon we won't have a single child left who wants to attend.
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7-10-2010 @ 10:33PM
Lill said...Yep...hit em in the pocketbook! They'll come to any class or conference if you hold back that state unemployment, welfare or ssi check...do it with cash...not jail! That's where you will find your best result!
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7-10-2010 @ 11:08PM
mitchellfarkas said...Why the big surprise. That's what the blacks do - they are promiscuous, have kids and abandon them, the mother ends up being bitter and mean and usually fat and ugly and hostile at the world, and the kids go sell crack and steal tennis shoes while the father goes to jail. That's what blacks do - that is what Detroit is all about. The blacks are a curse on the country - they use all the resources and are born inferior but want to be treated as equals, when even they know that they are not.
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7-11-2010 @ 2:02AM
vicki said...you are sick. Why stop with just the blacks, which by the way have alot of men and women who are great achievers in society. you of course belong alongside Hitler in present day form of course!
7-10-2010 @ 11:09PM
mandie said...Wow really people not the parents fault? And the kids are to blame? Lets see I don't understand the jailing the parent because some parents work 2 jobs to support their children. As for the rest it is your job as a parent ot make sure your child goes to school. They skip to do something else TAKE AWAY PRIVELEGES punish them I am 23 years old with a 4 year old so and I am not on welfare like so many of these people have said take away their welfare. Yall sound so damn smart. My husband and myself both work for a living him on barges making 200 a day and me for now making 400 a week. I still go to meetings even pto meetings for my son, I go to all tball practises and meetings, take my son to do extra things in the summer like amusement parks and swimming. Its called being involved in ur childs life. I do understand some ppl have to work 2 jobs or even 12 hours a day at one job but shit there are days off. There are ways to punish a child before they get too outta hand. I skipped class one time and it was my senior year of school. Straigh A student, only went for 2 1/2 hours a day because I co-oped but i skipped one day. Called my mom and told her I didn't feel good, she seen me out and about when I was supposed to be at school. I'll tell you what I was the most embarrassed senior in the school when I was riding the school bus every day because I had my car taken away from me. I sure as heck never did that again.
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7-10-2010 @ 11:15PM
Lonnie said...How racist? We know that Detroit is the dreamland made of live if you can and kill if you want to. Their should be no penalty for any of these inrresponsible adults nor their children. It is George Bush's fault of course. I hear the whining that the parents have to work two jobs and can not take care of their children. Then the children should be taken away of someone so stupid that they can not find some way to have those kids cared for. Quit lowering the standards for those unfortunate parents, maybe 1% of these are really in need of help, the other 99% spend their money on drugs, women and other important failures such as Obama. Get real America I grew up with not money but my mother and father worked hard many more hours that these slackers. And Guess what I was never left without responsible supervision.
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7-10-2010 @ 11:14PM
betty said...This type of thing has been going on. Roanoke, VA. 1992, My neighbor, Nancy had a kid that kept skipping school. She didn't want the boy to skip. His butt belonged in school. She got him to school, walked him in the door... (was ordered to TAKE him, walk him in) she did. Once she was ordered to GO TO SCHOOL, every day, walk him to and from class for a while..and she did......(hell with her job) She did. The boy was about 14.. She was finally allowed to simply take him... She got him there...took him in..THEY didn't keep him there... he walked off, skipped. SHE WENT TO JAIL FOR A WEEK CAUSE OF THIS KID. You think it helped any??? hell no... once he was old enough... she was almost relieved when he just quit. They couldn't keep him there and blamed her...
Poor woman did all she could.
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7-10-2010 @ 11:15PM
Realmancan said...Here are a couple of "solutions". Immediately jail ALL known gang members. Anyone caught throwing gang signs or involved in known gang activity are incarcerated until the courts deem that they are no longer a threat. Any child caught skipping is also immediately turned over to the juvenile authorities for confinement until their court date. NO EXCEPTIONS! Any child or parent who recieves assistance from the government must submit to drug testing with any positive test resulting in termination of benefits. It's not a moral issue, it's a survival issue. Make gang membership a felony. It already is with motorcycle gangs. If you make the penalty more undesirable that the act it can be brought bear when the offender is younger and more apt to be receptive of change of attitude. I'm sorry I can't be more understanding of each personal situation, but I have seen to many children fall through the cracks in this society and too many "parents" that need their reproductive ability terminated. The Redneck has spoken!
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7-10-2010 @ 11:27PM
Gary said...Take God out of the schools and the schools went to Hell
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7-10-2010 @ 11:33PM
SkyBlue said...The schools went to Hell because of an antiquated system overloaded with kids who don't want to be there, parents who don't care, and taxpayers and polititians who who shortchange the funding in favor of pork barrel programs and other less vital needs. God, or the lack thereof, had nothing to do with creating this mess.
7-11-2010 @ 3:07AM
SkyBlue said...Your logic is faulty, Gary. You have not shown cause and effect. See my comment below.
7-10-2010 @ 11:28PM
SkyBlue said...I agree kids should be held accountable for their actions and take the consequences, but this foolish proposal will NOT accomplish that.
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7-11-2010 @ 12:18AM
Gary said...There is a very direct connection between removing God from the schools and serious offenses by young people in school. When I was in school there were no students going to school and murdering fellow students but we had the right to pray or believe in God.. Then the atheists started getting the government to force God out and we see today the results