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DETROIT (AP) _ The night Demarco Harris shot and killed a woman during a robbery on a Detroit street, his parents told police knocking on their door at 2 a.m. they didn't know where their 12-year-old was.
Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy said that's indicative of a larger issue in Detroit, where the lack of making parents accountable for their children partly is blamed on elevated truancy and dropout rates, as well as a recent rash of violent crimes involving teens.
Worthy has a new idea she hopes will fix the problem: Jail parents for up to three days for repeatedly missing scheduled parent-teacher conferences.
"I have seen that younger and younger children are committing more violent acts and we need to look at different approaches," Worthy told reporters. "I know we need to try something different. We should not have to legislate this, but what we have been doing is not working."
She's still working on the details, but once her proposal is finished, she hopes to present it to county commissioners in August and persuade them to approve an ordinance. After that, she may take it to state legislators in Lansing.
It's unlikely to quickly become an ordinance because it would probably be challenged in court because civil libertarians say it may be outside the law. Even some teachers, who often spend several hours waiting for parents who don't show up for the conferences, are skeptical.
"I understand the prosecutor's concern, but jail time?" said Detroit middle school teacher Ann Crowley.
Worthy first considered her proposal after a spate of shootings involving students that culminated in the June 2009 wounding of seven teens at a city bus stop. The Demarco Harris' trial convinced her she was on the right track.
He had been in and out of school a lot and his parents rarely met with his teachers. Then came Aug. 1 2009 when authorities were investigating a killing.
"When police went to his parents, his parents were not able to account for his whereabouts and it was about 2 in the morning," Worthy said.
Harris, who is now 13, was convicted in May of killing 24-year-old Trisha Babcock. He was sentenced to a high-security juvenile lockup.
"We're trying to prevent any more Demarco Harrises from going down that road," Worthy said.
Under her plan, Wayne County parents would be required to pick a time and day to attend one parent-teacher conference a year. If that conference is missed, the school would send out a letter to set up another within 14 days. If the second is missed, parents get a letter about sanctions, which could include up to three days in jail.
Parents with health concerns and those whose children are performing above average could be exempt. "I'm not interested in putting parents in jail if their children are high achievers," Worthy said.
Currently attendance at parent-teacher conferences isn't mandatory, and Worthy's plan may be challenged because it could infringe on a parent's civil rights.
"A criminal justice solution is not the answer to complicated social problems," said Kary Moss, executive director of Michigan's American Civil Liberties Union. "The last thing many families in dire situations need is more punishment by the criminal justice community. There's established law already that governs child abuse and neglect, and that sets up the standard for involvement by the government in the family's affairs."
There doesn't appear to be any existing legislation similar to what Worthy wants. She didn't know of any and the National Conference of State Legislatures, which tracks state laws, didn't know of one. Similar proposals in Texas and Kentucky have failed.
Republican Kentucky state Rep. Adam Koenig submitted a bill last year that didn't make it out of committee. It would have required parents to attend at least one conference with teachers for each child in school. Failure to do so would have meant a $50 fine.
"I wanted to get parental involvement in the schools more attention," Koenig said. "There's a reluctance to fine parents who are often viewed as too busy. I'm of the opinion that there's a lot of people who've paid taxes to have these kids learn. Parents have some responsibility."
The 2007 Texas bill called for fining parents $500 and charging them with a misdemeanor for missing a scheduled parent-teacher conference.
Making sure Detroit students make it to school and stay there through the end of the day has long been a problem. The average student missed 46 days last school year.
Worthy's office penalizes parents and guardians for school truancy. But by the time prosecutors get involved, large chunks of classroom time already have been missed. Hundreds of cases are reviewed each year, but only 50 or so result in prosecution. Educational neglect is a misdemeanor that carries up to 90 days in jail and a fine for parents. Older students could end up in juvenile court.
Derek Muhammad, who has a son in high school, has never attended a conference with a teacher, saying it's hard to find the time while working. The 40-year-old said it's also up to students to understand what's required of them in terms of school achievement and positive behavior.
"Anytime you're talking about a penalty that will take away the parent from the child who already is in trouble, then you have a very dangerous outcome," said Muhammad, a motivational speaker. "There's anger from the student, time away from the parent and hostility toward whatever caused that, and that's the school system."
Caught in the middle are teachers, who want to help students succeed, but struggle to compel parents to have the same interest.
Former Detroit special education teacher Emily Williams said it was disheartening when 3 out of 15 parents would attend meetings.
"Sometimes I would call home. Sometimes the phone was cut off. If you send a letter home, sometimes it wouldn't get to the parents," she said.
Instead of jailing parents, Williams suggests Worthy give them community service.
"A lot (of homes) are headed by single parents," she said. "If momma is not coming home, who is going to watch the kids?"
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ReaderComments (Page 4 of 6)
7-11-2010 @ 3:00AM
SkyBlue said...Your logic is faulty, Gary. Just because 1 event follows another does not mean the 2nd was caused by the 1st. Had God been "allowed" to stay in schools would not have changed anything. Kids today would be as disrespectful toward God as they are against every other authority figure. Parenting skills failed, polititians failed, and kids and schools have failed as a result. That "old-time religion" would have changed nothing. It would have failed too, because by focusing on it, the rest would have been allowed to slide (just as it already has).
7-10-2010 @ 11:39PM
batahir said...Cassie,
I had the same problem you had. This was about 10 years ago (son turned out ok, thank heavens). I was a really involved parent whose child just decided he was going to start doing wrong. I had attended every meeting since pre-school, was a volunteer in the classroom, knew every teacher on a first name basis, kept the kid involved in activities, etc. and still he decided to start skipping school and smoking pot and drinking (he would sneak out after first period). So I got permission from the principal who was a really great understanding man --- and I ATTENDED CLASS WITH HIM. EVERYDAY! I told him that since he was not responsible enough to be where he was supposed to be then I would make sure he was where he was supposed to be! I would walk him into the class, greet the teacher and then stand outside the door until class was over. Then I would walk him to the next class, greet the teacher and again stand outside the door. Man -- it made not only my kid behave but apparently had a real impact on a lot of the kids. Somehow having a mom walking through the halls and standing outside a classroom door scared them shitless. I did this for about 6 months. AND it was a real financial impact on my family. We were barely making it as it was and boy there were a lot of things that had to be skipped that year while we did this. My husband was working as much overtime as he could. In the end somehow my kid realized that he was really important to us that we would decide to do this and he really became a serious student after that. It may not work for every student, everytime but it worked for us. Just passing this along.
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7-11-2010 @ 12:24PM
dan said...Thats the answer to everything nowadays. Lets throw em in jail. We need to take back our country fromthe extremism thats taken a hold on it.
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7-11-2010 @ 12:19AM
MomOfThree said...Sorry but imposing jail time on parents who miss parent-teacher conferences will not work nor will it solve the problems of juvenile delinquency and violence. Parents aren't able to parent as a direct result of the child protective laws. Beat your child for doing wrong or restrict their movements by locking them in the house along with the rest of the family for the night and you could go to jail on charges of child abuse so parents are no longer permitted to discipline children to correct behavior. Take away privileges and you could be charged with child neglect so parents are forced to provide the necessities of life in a manner dictated by society and their children. So instead parents do the best they can but if the child won't behave the parent is forced to let the child do as he or she pleases but then the parents are held accountable when the child commits a crime (or becomes or gets someone pregnant).
I say it's time to eliminate the child protective laws and restore parental power and control to the levels where it belongs. That will reverse the dangerous trend we see today.
Most parent-teacher conferences are scheduled at times when working parents are at work and they often can't get time off to attend let alone get paid time off to attend.
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7-11-2010 @ 2:05AM
NLP said...eliminate the child protective laws? You think there shouldn't be laws to protect kids from abuse?Wow I feel sorry for your three kids.
7-10-2010 @ 11:58PM
GRACE2STAND said...MOST KIDS WHO COMMIT VIOLENCE are demonstrating the effects of POST TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER. They have been abused and/or molested, and over the course of the next 3-4 months, their brains have drastically changed.
1 in 4 girls and 1 in 6 boys will be molested! 86% will NEVER tell, even when asked! Instead, they begin acting out... Then they are expelled from school, banned from the church bus, not allowed to play with the neighbor's children... THIS convinces them that they are inherently BAD, and that they were abused because they DESERVED IT!
LEARN THE SYMPTOMS OF PTSD in children and adolescents, and DEMAND help for these precious, suffering children! Symptoms include: nightmares, inability to fall or stay asleep; regression, repetitious, traumatic play; preoccupation with danger; personality changes, psychosomatic pain / blowing pain out of proportion, exaggerated fearfulness, accident proneness, loss of ability to concentrate in school; aggressiveness... punching oneself in the face, banging one's head on the wall, wiping feces on the wall, setting fires, cutting and breaking objects, cutting or abusing ones-self, pulling out hair, pulling out permanent teeth...ANY weird behavior. These behaviors are NOT voluntary, they are SYMPTOMS caused by severe ABUSE! see http://www.cincinnatichildrens.org/health/info/mental/diagnose/ptsd.htm
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7-11-2010 @ 12:04AM
jc7667 said...First we make it a crime to discipline children and call corporal punishment child abuse, then we get annoyed when these kids are not under parental control. Now we want to jail parents who don't attend parent teacher conferences. I think we just need to round up all the little unruly brats and put them in concentration camps so we can brainwash them to the goverment's way of thinking and involuntarily sterilize all their parents so there will be no more unruly little brats born. There that should solve all our problems. (Extreme sarcasm intended.)
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7-11-2010 @ 9:10AM
bec56 said...Maybe parents should be allowed to discipline their children without the threat of the law stepping in. Take away parental rights then pass laws to hold parents accountable?? What's wrong with this picture??
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7-13-2010 @ 1:05PM
Cole said...This is a joke. First of all, 75% of the kids don't even have a male at home -- and if they do, 50% of the time it isn't their father. 25% of the kids don't have a mother at home. Who are they going to arrest? Most Americans would be shocked to know how many kids in the inner cities live with their grandmothers. The problem is that most of inner city moms have given birth 4 times by the age of 22. They then live on food stamps, cash assistance for rent and for electricity, etc, until their own daughter is 17 (or younger) and starts the baby cycle over again. The solution? Sterilization after the second child, and birth control implants in girls from the age of 12 until they marry. That would slow the cycle of breeding. Currently, the irresponsible people are producing 5 generations for every 3 generations by taxpayers.
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7-11-2010 @ 12:35AM
Willie said...I imagine that the Detroit School District applies social promotion (the teachers do teach, but the students are not required to learn until high school: no matter what grades the students EARN they are still passed on to the next grade. In high school that's when they are accountable for earning their diploma).
ANY district that has social promotion, produces more criminals than college students.
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7-11-2010 @ 1:03AM
gericc1 said...IF YOU DON'T NO WHERE YOUR 12 YEAR OLD IS AT 2AM, YOU HAVE A PROBLEM ALRIGHT,AND I DON'T THINK IT IS SCHOOL.
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7-11-2010 @ 12:52AM
Escalonz said...I wonder if the brothers refusal to wear a raincoat in the shower have anything to do with it only to end up skipping out on their responsibilities when the shower is over and the kid is born. Naaaaaaa! Can't be 'caus it's the macho thing to do...............
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7-11-2010 @ 2:13AM
steve said...People, this is the s$*t hole Detroit we are talking about. The same place were the person heading the city's schools can't even read or write. It is another liberal toliet. I think we should wall off all liberal places and regulate their access to the rest of the country. Taking care of the liberal problem will cure 100% of the world's problem.
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7-11-2010 @ 1:17AM
William Bischoff said...When children attend free public schools, the price for the parents should be mandatory communication with the teachers of their children, at least monthy, if not more often. It could be by e-mail, telephone or in person, but at least it would give the parents information about the progress of their children, and the teachers could get information about what is going on at home with the children. If parents are "too busy" or too "overwhelmed", they should give their children up to parents who actually WANT to raise children and care for them.
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7-11-2010 @ 1:18AM
Marcie said...Republicans from Texas and Kentucky have already tried this idiotic approach and failed. That should tell you right there what a braindead idea this is. Taking away welfare benefits if kids misbehave....are you going to attach the paychecks of people who aren't on welfare if their kids misbehave? Maybe the whole punitive approach should be revisited. How about schools that actually teach the kids how to live in the world as it is? How about jobs that pay a living wage? How about housing people can afford? How about food with some nutritutional value? How about healthcare for people with mental problems who need help or medication? How about if we, as a nation, forgot about sports and wars and other huge wastes of resources and spent our time and attention on our kids?
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7-12-2010 @ 3:52PM
Linda Campbell said...Thank you. It's a big picture problem.
Worried and scared for this generation!
7-11-2010 @ 1:29AM
Jeff said...Simple answer. Start praising your kids for what they do right instead of just criticizing them when they do something wrong. Kids need to feel they are loved by the parents and just negative criticism turns them off. When they get plenty of praise for doing the right thing it reduces anxiety. When parents scream at their kids subconciously they feel it on an emotional level and it affects them mentally. Don't just praise them for anything but for what they do that is special. It works. Try it.
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7-12-2010 @ 4:08PM
stephanie said...This country is getting more and more pathetic. I am disgusted at the rediculous solutions to the problems. First off, I think this country (Americans and illegals alike) forget that an education is a priveledge which we have taken for granted. The problem now is that it is a law for our children to attend school. Now people cannot understand what a true honor it is to have that ability. They have taken for granted everything that comes so freely to them. I think that if a child (ungrateful monster) refuses to go to school then they should be forced to work in hard labor. I know, what a crime. But I truly think if they see the alternative then they might see how fortunate they are. I also believe that if they refuse to complete high school they should not be allowed ANY federal assistance since they have not been a productive part of society and have proven they are leeches. The assistance is there to help, not sustain forever. I think also, if we actually were allowed to discipline our children we might keep the fear of God in them so they stay on track. Also, stop being so politically correct. If we werent so concerned with appeasing everyone, we might not be breeding such a group of self rightious selfish lazy useless bloodsucking hateful disrespectful lil monsters. Call a spade a spade. The truth hurts. I doubt this won't turn into a racial stimulant by the spade comment but that was not my intention. If the shoe fits wear it though. I can hold my own. It is irrelevent which race you are if you are working your way into a better life. Dont blame your ethicity for your failures and say its because of discrimination. It may just be because you weren't good enough. If you work through your life with your hand out then I will pray for a brave soul to come chop it off. I also believe that this whole fight for equal rights is a load of crap. "If you want what I have, do what I do." Why should anyone just think they are deserving of anything of which they have not earned. This is the trouble with the whole country. Back before the wheel, if you were hungry, you found your own food or you did not survive. Why should any human struggle to provide for themselves then have someone take it away??? Last I checked, that is like a scavenger or a parasite. Anyway, maybe someone will agree with me but I could care less if they do. Just keep in mind, the longer this all goes on the less chance any of us will have to have the American Dream.
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7-11-2010 @ 1:42AM
vicki said...So, you want to put the parents in jail for up to 3 days for missing a parent-teacher conference! Who's watching the kids then? Sure not the school system. My oldest son is 28, I went to all of his so called parent-teacher put the parent down sessions. My youngest 3-all under 12 are now home schooled. Not everyone can do this for various reasons, but at least the school, school board and the state cant tell me to come to a conference!
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7-11-2010 @ 1:46AM
NLP said...My daughter is a straight A student taking AP classes. I don't need to attend every conference. I go at the start of the school year not at the end. That is my choice. I see her progress reports and she is home every day and night. No one should have the right to tell me I'm gonna go to jail for not attending a meeting that is not necessary!
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