Wanna Feel Old? Read the Beloit College Mindset List
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The class of 2014? They're so over e-mail. Credit: Mark Scott, Getty Images
Take the graduates from the class of 2005. They've been out of school five years now, and when they were born, Sarajevo was a war zone, not an Olympic host. Or how about the whippersnappers in the class of 2007? As far as they know, you've always been able to make a phone call from an airplane.
And if you really want to feel like it's time to buy a family plot, consider this: Members of the class of 2002 were born the same year as the Sony Walkman.
So says the Beloit College Mindset List, a cultural crib sheet that has been produced for the past 12 years by two officials at the Beloit, Wis. private school of 1,400 students.
The purpose? To help teachers avoid the embarrassment of dropping a reference their students might not get -- such as, say, referring to "Fergie" to members of the class of 2014 and meaning the princess, not the pop star.
Here are some of the cultural factoids from the last 13 lists that might make you want to laugh -- or cry.
Class of 2014
- Doctor Kevorkian has never been licensed to practice medicine.
- The first computer they probably touched was an Apple II; it is now in a museum.
- J.R. Ewing has always been dead and gone. Hasn't he?
- Beethoven has always been a dog.
- One way or another, "It's the economy, stupid," and always has been.
- E-mail is just too slow, and they seldom -- if ever -- use snail mail.
- They have never used a card catalog to find a book.
- Tattoos have always been very chic and highly visible.
- American students have always lived anxiously with high-stakes educational testing.
- Britney Spears has always been heard on classic rock stations.
- They have never been "Saved by the Bell."
- GPS satellite navigation systems have always been available.
- As a precursor to "whatever," they have recognized that some people "just don't get it."
- Films have never been X-rated, only NC-17.
- Lenin's name has never been on a major city in Russia.
- Macaulay Culkin has always been "Home Alone."
- They never "rolled down" a car window.
- Nelson Mandela has always been free and a force in South Africa.
- Rap music has always been mainstream.
- They were born the year Harvard Law Review Editor Barack Obama announced he might run for office some day.
- They drove their parents crazy with the Beavis and Butt-Head laugh.
- The Soviet Union has never existed and therefore is about as scary as the student union.
- A stained blue dress is as famous to their generation as a third-rate burglary was to their parents'.
- "Google" has always been a verb.
- They have rarely mailed anything using a stamp.
- Professional athletes have always competed in the Olympics.
- They don't remember when "cut and paste" involved scissors.
- Condoms have always been advertised on television.
- Michael Jackson has always been bad, and greed has always been good.
- RU486 has always been on the market.
- They never saw the shuttle Challenger fly.
- Most students entering college this fall were born in 1986.
- Harry has always known Sally.
- Rogaine has always been available for the follicularly challenged.
- We have always been mapping the human genome.
- They have done most of their search for the right college online.
- Iraq has always been a problem.
- Gas has always been unleaded.
- There has always been a screening test for AIDS.
- Computers have always fit in their backpacks.
- They have always had a PIN number.
- Cars have always had eye-level rear stop lights, CD players and air bags.
- Barbie has always had a job.
- Nicolas Cage, Daryl Hannah, Eddie Murphy and John Malkovich made their first major film impressions the year they were born.
- The "Fab Four" are not a male rock group, but four women enjoying Sex and the City.
- Julian Lennon had his only hit the year they were born.
- The New Kids on the Block are over the hill.
- Recording TV programs on VCRs became legal the year they were born.
- They were born the same year as the PC and the Mac.
- Drug testing of athletes has always been routine.
- They have always had access to e-mail.
- Kurt Cobain's death was the "day the music died."
- There have always been ATM machines.
- There has always been a national holiday honoring Martin Luther King, Jr.
- They never dressed up for a plane flight.
- If they vaguely remember the night the Berlin Wall fell, they are probably not sure why it was up in the first place.
- They are the first generation to be born into Luvs, Huggies and Pampers.
- Yugoslavia has never existed.
- They have spent more than half their lives with Bart Simpson.
- Ketchup has always been a vegetable.
- They have never needed a prescription to buy ibuprofen.
- They are too young to remember the Space Shuttle Challenger blowing up.
- The compact disc was introduced when they were 1 year old.
- They cannot fathom what it was like not having a remote control.
- They have no idea when or why Jordache jeans were cool.
- McDonald's never came in Styrofoam containers.
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ReaderComments (Page 1 of 4)
8-18-2010 @ 7:46PM
Matt said..."Britney Spears has always been heard on classic rock stations."
wtf? I have never heard her on a rock station... the people who made this list are morons.
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8-19-2010 @ 4:48PM
Alicia said...Agreed. I'm graduating from college in 2012 and if I ever hear Brittany Spears on a classic rock radio station, I'm pulling out my own ear drums with a darning needle.
8-23-2010 @ 2:08AM
J. Carter said...I heard Nirvana on a classic rock station the other day. I'm 35 and to me, that music, the "Seattle music", is not classic yet. Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains, Soundgarden, Stone Temple Pilots, This is still music I listen too! I consider classic rock to be stuff recorded before 1980. The Rolling Sones, The Grateful Dead, Led Zep, Crosby Stills, Nash and Young! Eric Clapton!
8-20-2010 @ 4:35AM
Heather said...This list seems a little off/stupid. I graduated college in 2002, and I can clearly remember the Challenger blowing up, buying a CD instead of a tape for the first time, walking up to the TV to change the channel, wearing Jordache jeans and eating chicken nuggets in styrofoam at McD's. This list is so off I thought maybe it was kids who graduated high school, not college, in '02, but no, they mean college.
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8-22-2010 @ 8:16PM
Beth said...Ditto, I was blatantly six years old when the Challenger blew up, saw it right on live TV before going to afternoon kindergarten. Saw my first CD player around 1989, I think, and the remote control didn't come to my household until the mid-'90s. I remember wearing Jordache, Gitano, LA Gear, Esprit, and coveting original Reebok high-tops. I did take notice when McDonald's switched to more sustainable packaging because they were getting flak for all of their styrofoam. Hell, I was born when Jimmy Carter was still president!
8-22-2010 @ 9:48PM
Lisa said...They meant high school students going into college . . . It's just a fun way to help college professors connect with their students.
8-22-2010 @ 11:19PM
wthr1 said...actually, I bought my first CD player in 1985, so it's not all that far off for that, though there are definitely errors in this list, as well as much more exciting differences.
8-23-2010 @ 12:48AM
Heather said...Not that it matters, but for class of 2002, they were referring to the students who graduated college that year, not high school (hence the "class of 2014"). It's fine to make it a fun way for professors to connect with their students, but it seems like smart people could come up with a more accurate list... that isn't so condescending.
8-23-2010 @ 6:04AM
Al Schrader said...I was ten miles away from it when it blew. Saw it with my own eyes.
I was on the team that built the cargo bay pallets. There's a lot lately about people having large college debts & not being able to buy a home. I graduated from college. What I found is I didn't need a degree, what I needed was a job. Any job. I suggest get a job and go to college after work. I did it. The results are much better. Ask Bill Gates.....Al-
8-20-2010 @ 5:11PM
LS said...Some of these things are pathetic and appalling:
-Yugoslavia has never existed
-...they are probably not sure why [the Berlin Wall] was up in the first place
- Iraq has always been a problem
- The Soviet Union has never existed and therefore is about as scary as the student union
- Lenin's name has never been on a major city in Russia
- Beethoven has always been a dog
- referring to "Fergie" ... and meaning the princess, not the pop star
What this list tells me is not that teachers need to "brush up" on how not to "embarrass themselves" in front of these kids... it tells me that these kids know NOTHING about history!!!
Lenin HAS been a major city in Russia. Beethoven has NOT always been a dog... etc. Perhaps these things didn't happen in the lifetimes of these children, but they DID happen. Just because George Washington wasn't president during my lifetime, does that excuse me from not knowing who he was?
That's what this list seems to imply, and it's pathetic how much about recent history that people - not just students - don't know.
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8-22-2010 @ 10:38PM
Alex said...Wow what underestimating us much...At age 10 I knew who Lenin was and where Leningrad was, I have also used Card Catalogs, never heard Britney Spears on classic rock stations wtf? and Bethoveen is a composer. I wonder who the writers of this list asked and the article writter should have probably given this article another thought
8-23-2010 @ 2:12AM
michael said...wow this is totally hitting the nail on the head, very nice job. i would further like to add that the existence of this list is pretty much saying that ignorance is acceptable. im 28 and in my own lifetime i perceived things to "always have existed" but i am smart enough to know they didnt always exist, and i am thankful to have had them. i know my history, and it annoyes me greatly to see many of the younger generations completely complacent about what they have, and how good things are now. and just because they were born with an iPod in their hand doesnt mean its always going to be there. this list needs to be thrown away, and a new list drawn up on what the student need to know so they can understand the teacher, so that when they do hear Bethoven, they know not to think of a dog. furthermore if they understood recent history and older history, they could actually get a lot of the jokes and sayings in the english language. i cant tell you how many times i actually have to explain a joke to some nitwit 19 year old just because he doesnt know a thing about what happened before 2002. its irritating, and the younger generation should be embarassed. maybe they should slow down a bit, download a little less mp3's, watch a little less TV, go to starbucks a little less, and actually lean about the world we live in. (steps off soapbox now), thanks for reading.
8-25-2010 @ 3:03AM
Mister T said...This is a yearly inaccurate over-generalization. MY students (K-5 music) ALL hear about Beethoven, Mozart, Bach . . . I could care LESS if they ever hear about EITHER Fergie.
In my MUSIC class, we cover history. WORLD history. Music has always been there. During the Civil War, WWII . . . the songs line up with the time periods.
I was in college when the Challenger blew up. Today's kids MIGHT hear about that when they get to high school. It was so important to us because we remember when it happened. Kennedy was assassinated in the past fifty years. He is still on the History Channel. Lincoln? Yeah, we talk about about it, but it isn't as personal for us because we weren't there. Today's kids are more concerned about when Tupac died than John Lennon.
8-22-2010 @ 8:37PM
Rebecca Barnes said...An old fogie here; I was 18 mo. old when the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor. I think I remember the day WWII ended. -radios blaring, people out in the street talking & laughing; I think I was scared but nobody noticed. Then there was the Cold War , JFK's assination, Civil Rights reforms, the space trip to the moon, the Viet Nam War, Operation Desert Storm. Iraq, Afganistan, and a string of technological advances I couldn't begin to keep up with. Change is on going. It is continuous & always will be.
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8-22-2010 @ 8:58PM
Bud Russo said...Born in 1941, graduated college in 1963, law school in 1966, grad law in 1967,these lists make perfect sense to me. My children, college grads in 1995 and 2000, may take issue with me. What else is new?
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8-22-2010 @ 9:24PM
Eugene said...How old is Grandma?
One evening a grandson was talking to his grandmother about current events. The grandson asked his grandmother what she thought about the shootings at schools, the computer age, and just things in general.
The Grandma replied, "Well, let me think a minute, I was born before television, penicillin, polio shots, frozen foods, Xerox, contact lenses, Frisbees and the Pill. There was no radar, credit cards, laser beams or ball-point pens.
Man had not invented pantyhose, air conditioners, dishwashers, clothes dryers, and the clothes were hung out to dry in the fresh air and man hadn't yet walked on the moon. Your Grandfather and I got married first - and then lived together. Every family had a father and a mother. Until I was 25, I called every man older than I, 'Sir' - and after I turned 25, I still called policemen and every man with a title, "Sir.' This was before gay-rights, computer-dating, dual careers, daycare centers, and group therapy.
Our lives were governed by the Ten Commandments, good judgment, and common sense. We were taught to know the difference between right and wrong and to stand up and take responsibility for our actions. Serving your country was a privilege; living in this country was a bigger privilege. We thought fast food was what people ate during Lent.
Having a meaningful relationship meant getting along with your cousins.
Draft dodgers were people who closed their front doors when the evening breeze started. Time-sharing meant time the family spent together in the
evenings and we never heard of FM radios, tape decks, CDs, electric typewriters, yogurt, or guys wearing earrings. Long hair meant classical music. We listened to the Big Bands, Jack Benny, and the President's
speeches on our radios.
And I don't ever remember any kid blowing his brains out listening to Tommy Dorsey. If you saw anything with 'Made in Japan' on it, it was junk. The term 'making out' referred to how you did on your school exam. Pizza Hut, McDonald's, and instant coffee were unheard of. We had 5&10-cent
stores where you could actually buy things for 5 and 10 cents. Ice-cream cones, phone calls, rides on a streetcar, and a Pepsi were all a nickel. And if you didn't want to splurge, you could spend your nickel on enough stamps to mail 1 letter and 2 postcards.
You could buy a new Chevy Coupe for $600 but who could afford one? Too bad, because gas was 11 cents a gallon.
In my day,
"grass" was mowed,
"coke" was a cold drink,
"pot" was something your mother cooked in, and
"rock music" was your grandmother's lullaby.
"Aids" were helpers in the Principal's office,
"chip" meant a piece of wood,
"hardware" was found in a hardware store, and
"software" wasn't even a word.
And we were the last generation to actually believe that a woman needed a husband to have a baby. No wonder people call us "old and confused" and say there is a generation gap..... and how old do you think I am ???.....
This Woman would be only 58 years old!
Born in 1945
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8-22-2010 @ 10:51PM
Jerseyguy said...No Grandma has to be older, at least 72 or 73. To have listened
to the big bands and listened to FDR on the radio with his "fireside
chats" she would be born about 1937 not 1945, I was born in 44 and
I was to young to listen to FDR actually he died in 1945 I believe. I
was only 1 and Grnadma wasn't born yet according to you.
8-22-2010 @ 11:58PM
Pon Pon said...Eugene, that was one of the best things I have read in ages. I love your perspective and it reminded me of my grandfather, a dear man who passed at the age of 99. I remember the first time I showed him a cell phone and his reaction to it. Wow! I have always been grateful to hear his perspective and he told wonderful and amazing stories, with subjects ranging from the stock market crash and what he and his co-workers did that day (figured there was nothing they could do, so they went to a public golf course and played 18 holes) to his experiences during WW I & WW II. So many incredible stories that came from the lifetime of an man who lived an honest and purpuseful life. Thank you for giving me time to reflect on him and his life and all that he shared with me.
8-23-2010 @ 11:15AM
Amy said...Thank you for this beautiful editorial! These are the same principles I was taught, and the same ones I pass on to those around me, both young and old. It seems as though these life lessons went out the window for most of those born in the mid-'60's, such as myself. I am glad when I find I am not alone in my so-called 'outdated' thinking.
8-23-2010 @ 2:17AM
J. Carter said...While I very much enjoyed your story and the lesson behind it, its not possible that you are 58 yrs old. My father was born in Sept of 1941 and he is turning 69 next month. That would make you 65 or 66 years old.