
Should I Keep Loaning Money to My Adult Daughter?
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Dear AdviceMama,
I've loaned $5,000 to my grown daughter (she's in her 40s). She has also borrowed money from her sister and stepmother in the last year and a half. She has two homes, one that she and her family live in and a vacation home in the mountains. They had their motor home repossessed and are having a hard time making car and mortgage payments. I am about to retire and I really don't want to give them what I have saved towards retirement. Also, I think it wouldn't solve the problem -- it would just be a temporary fix. Of course, she's not too happy with me right now (she has hinted at needing another loan) and I feel bad. Thanks for your input.
Signed,
Reluctant ATM
Dear Reluctant ATM,
I'm sure you've heard this many times, but it's true: Don't lend money to relatives unless you're in a position to part with it forever. While I'm sure there are exceptions, I can't count the number of conflicts I've seen between family members over borrowing -- and repaying -- money. The loaner says, "You told me you'd repay me in February and it's August!" while their adult son replies, "Well you obviously you don't care about your whether your granddaughter gets to go to preschool!" And on it goes ...
No doubt your daughter intended to repay your $5,000, but if she's in over her head -- which sounds like the case -- you are definitely going to be at the end of the line when it comes to how she pays off her financial obligations.
Given the fact that you're about to retire, I wholeheartedly support you in deciding not to loan your daughter more money. You deserve to benefit from what you have worked hard to put away for the coming years so you can take care of yourself.
And I agree that simply handing over more money will not solve your daughter's problems. It could even prolong them by postponing the inevitable time when she and her husband take stock of their assets and liabilities and start living within their actual income.
But keep in mind that there's a delicate and indelicate way of letting your daughter know that she cannot expect more bailouts from you. Avoid lecturing her about how she has handled her money. Your harsh words will only further alienate and upset her.
Instead, empathize with her situation, and acknowledge how stressful it's been for her as she's tried to juggle everything on her financial plate. Tell her you're there to support her (emotionally) as she tries to sort out her financial challenges, but don't tell her what to do unless she asks for your advice! Be careful to avoid coming across as judgmental. Saying things like, "You shouldn't have bought that vacation house!" is not going to be helpful, and will only create more tension between the two of you.
If your daughter asks for more money, gently tell her, "I'm afraid that won't work for me, sweetheart." Then give her the room to express her disappointment without defending your position. Once she clearly knows what she can -- and can't -- expect from those who have been helping her financially, she'll be able to make decisions about how to get out from under her debt.
This doesn't mean you can't surprise your daughter or grandkids with an occasional check or bag of groceries. But let that be something you choose to do, based on your financial situation.
Yours in parenting support,
AdviceMama
AdviceMama, Susan Stiffelman, is a licensed and practicing psychotherapist and marriage and family therapist. She holds a Bachelor of Arts in developmental psychology and a Master of Arts in clinical psychology. Her book, Parenting Without Power Struggles, is available on Amazon. Sign up to get Susan's free parenting newsletter.
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ReaderComments (Page 1 of 11)
9-20-2010 @ 1:51PM
ZCatNip said...Her comments are right on, though I do think that if a child (of any age) needs their parents's money, then advice gets to accompany that money, such as "sell your extras to pay your bills" and "no, I am not loaning you more money, because you didn't pay me back the first time". My parents loaned me money as an adult for a downpayment on a house, and I was expected to pay it back, and to politely listen to their advice.
But regardless of all that, it is apparent this woman won't do what she needs to do until everyone in the family stops bailing her out. Time to sell assets or go to the bank for more money.
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9-21-2010 @ 9:13PM
Debi said...Zcatnip I agree with your whoe statement.... in my eyes and ears I call it being TOUGH LOVE and that is exactly what it is and that is how people learn they have to bail themsleves out at some point and become grown up adults!!!!!!!! Besides the daughter is "40" years old not 18.... she has two homes there are thousands and thousands of people out there who would love to have a roof over their heads for them and their families.....
9-21-2010 @ 9:51PM
joe said...Its a fine line. I am a single parent with 1 child who is grown with her own family and does well for herself now after struggling for a while. I always helped every time she asked.I never wanted her to have to go through the struggles i went through and i always figured whatever was mine was going to be hers when i died anyway, so why not help her now when she needed it.
9-21-2010 @ 11:55PM
kristin said...Another loan is the last thing she needs. She needs to sale her vacation home. POINT BLANK. She doesn't need it. The rich and famous doesn't need it. They just want it. She needs to think about what is more important a vacation home or her everyday home. It sounds like she doesn't need to take a vacation anytime soon anyways. She is wasting so much money of hers and her families. She needs a wake up call. Mom I know you feel bad but she has to learn.
9-21-2010 @ 10:45PM
marlin said...Tell the 40 yr. old to GROW UP! No parent in their right mind should give their kid money, when the child is an adult! Teenager, I understand, college student I understand, BUT not an adult! Parents are old and need the cash for their needs. Our American society has become a family of spenders and not savers! God help us!
9-21-2010 @ 11:14PM
Mary said...I so agree, there is a time when a parent "wants" to help out their children, but, 40 years old is a time to stop. It's sometimes enabling your child to take advantage, when, they are wholly capable of going out and earing the same money that you have saved for your retirement, old age, ect. No child should expect a parent to support them forever. There's a time to just grow up and be responsible. Also a shame to use grandchildren as a pawn to get that sympathy vote from Grandma/Grandpa. I have a 25 y.o. daughter who chooses to quit jobs and ask for a handout. I've stopped, she's mad, but, you know...too bad. I work, and plan on having enough to live on after I retire from a job I've held for 30 years.
It's time for me to have fun and things I desire.
Mary
9-22-2010 @ 1:24AM
labbyrobinson said...Absolutely agree. If you can't get rid of the extras and live on beans and rice/mac & chs like all the rest of us did, then something is wrong. You either make your own way in this world with what is available to you, or you go out and find other ways to fill the financial void, and Mom & Dad aren't it. I have had to start over several times, and yeah, it's difficult, but there are life lessons in everything you do on your own, the only life lesson in my bailing you out is that you don't have to work for yourself. Get on your knees and and pray, and then get off your butt and put it into action.
9-22-2010 @ 5:49AM
jim t said...Back to the old saying, money isn't everything but it kees the kids in touch
9-29-2010 @ 4:53PM
D. Kelly said...If your daughter had paid back previous loans, that would be a different story. However, trying to live a lifestyle on your and other family member's income is just plain wrong. It's high time reality kicks her in the ass and provides her a lesson she is refusing to learn. All you are doing by continuing to loan her money is allowing her to life in her fantasy world. You really need to quit enabling her. Love her enough to say "No".
11-17-2010 @ 9:51AM
Kurt Andolsun said...Good advice. Unfortunately, I fit the profile of the borrower. I have borrowed from anyone that would loan me money. As yet I have not paid anyone back yet. When I retired my wife and I combined together received a very good pension (well over $100,000 a year) and had almost $200,000 in 401K's. So I thought we were set for our retirement years. Especially considering that the home we live in we bought new 20 years ago when our combined income was just $75,000. What I did not calculate into the equation was how much financial support my three kids were going to need. Quickly out 401K was gone, then even though our personal expenses are less than any time in our married life, I took on loans to help out. Obviously, I finally realized that not only do I not know how to manage money but by continuing to help these kids out was doing more harm to them then good. I am on the right track finally at age 68 and whether I live long enough to repay all my debts my wife knows whom I owe and pay them with the life insurance money. The only good thing I have done financially is set up my wife in the event I die first to live comfortably. With her pension and the pension from the survivor's benefit off of my pension she will get over $80,000 a year not to mention the large life insurance pay out. I learned my lessons, but wonder why it took me so long to figure it out!
9-21-2010 @ 5:21AM
anita said...it sounds to me like this womans daughter is living beyond her means and needs to downsize and simplify we ALL have had to do this economy
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9-21-2010 @ 8:07PM
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9-21-2010 @ 10:12PM
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9-22-2010 @ 5:22AM
Peg said...Amen brother.My son recieved 2 estimates for his new homes heating and airconditioning unit.The busy younger man was twice as high as the older more experienced man.This made me very upset.One estimate was $14,000 and the other $8,500.And the younger man didnt get back with us for 5wks and his work had slowed down.The older man got back with us in 10days and began and finished in less then 2wks
9-21-2010 @ 8:13PM
Laura said...The daughter needs to accept the fact that Mom isn't a lending institution. And Mom has to grow a backbone and say, "I'm sorry, honey, but as tough as it is for you, it's just as hard for me, and I just can't help you out financially." There are steps the daughter and her spouse should and need to take to trim the excess from their overextended budget. And the daughter needs to get over her sense of entitlement and realize that most of us don't own vacation homes or drive a new car every year. Sponging off the relatives doesn't teach fiscal responsibility. Maybe foreclosure and bankruptcy filing will.
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9-21-2010 @ 9:57PM
SmarterThanU2 said...Help your kids with everything you got !!! Love is a two way street, and Retirement BS is a luxury your kids will never experience with today's economy, wiped-out 401k's, and a bleak forseeable employment future. Enjoy your kids until you drop dead - because only FAMILY LOVE is all that matters !!!
9-21-2010 @ 8:17PM
Richard said...If did not want to have coming back to you maybe you should have prepared her better for life
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9-21-2010 @ 9:11PM
proshy said...What an asinine comment!
9-21-2010 @ 8:40PM
cadfael said...I wonder how you know so much about preparing someone better for life! Borrowed money you didn't pay back????
9-22-2010 @ 9:47AM
cherylhaass said...Maybe if you had spent more time in English class, you'd be able to post a coherent comment! This "kid" is FORTY. Time to get off the t-t! Mom should bring it up first, and tell this leech that since she's about to retire, there won't be any more loans. Period.