Rocky Horror 'Glee' Episode a Time Warp for Original Floor-Show Frank
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The author, in 1979, as Frank-N-Furter and now, as a mom. Photo by Mort Swinksy
"They're calling for you," he says warmly. It feels like he's passing the baton in a way. With my hand in his, it's as if he's imbuing me with everything I'll ever need to know about this amazing, flamboyant character. He releases my hand, I walk out on to the stage and for the first time in my life, I know what it's like to be a star.
Flash forward 2007: My 9-year-old daughter comes home from dance camp, eager to show me her new moves. Happy to oblige, I kick back and settle into my well-worn parental role as supportive audience member. It's a real production number and she tells me she's going to sing it while performing. I can't wait.
"It's just a jump to the left," she belts out.
I couldn't believe it. I was expecting a rendition of "Girls Just Wanna Have Fun," or something similarly camp-friendly. But instead, here I was, watching my daughter reenact a number from Rocky Horror that I had performed on stage three decades earlier.
Her body lifts off the floor, her hands reach up and gently come down in time for the second line.
"And then a step to the ri-i-i-i-i-ight."
Right leg extends three times, coordinated with crossing hand movements: check.
Tim Curry, the film Frank, hugs his protégé when she came off the stage in 1979.
And as I watch her put her hands on her hips and bring her knees in tight, I realize that I'm no longer simply enjoying her performance -- I'm monitoring it for accuracy.
Pelvic thrust: check. Good hip action.
"... really drives you in-sa-a-a-a-a-ane." Nice swivel. She's on her game with that one.
Instinctively, I know the chorus is coming ... and I want in. This is no mere compulsion. My enthusiastic desire to participate comes from a program that was written on my psyche 32 years ago. In unison, and much to my daughter's surprise, I join in on a song that represents one of the greatest experiences of my entire life.
"Let's do the Time Warp again!"
"Wait, you know this?" she asks, stopping the dance in her tracks.
I let out a semi-snooty laugh. "Let's just say, if it weren't for me, you wouldn't be doing this dance today."
My take was that she thought I somehow influenced the camp's summer dance selections. I, on the other hand, felt the kind of thespian pride that only someone who'd paraded around Greenwich Village wearing nothing but a corset, a black cape, fishnet stockings and a pair of badass six-inch platforms could feel.
Now was the perfect time to tell my kid who I'd been back in the olden days and what I'd contributed to this world.
"Oh, your mother was quite the pioneer," I gloat. "I was the first Frank. I was the first person to dress up as a character. Because of me, the Rocky Horror Picture Show was launched into fame, and back then, I was the hottest thing in New York City. People lined up for my autograph."
My 9-year-old looked at me with a mildly annoyed, somewhat bored expression. She had no idea what I was talking about. She had no idea who Frank was.
"OK. So, um, can I finish the dance now?"
Humbling to say the least. Clearly, she had no interest in my autograph.
But eventually, I told her the details of my glory days and over the years, my daughter has come to witness how this weird phenomenon called Rocky Horror seems to follow me wherever I go. She's seen the hundreds of photos of me as Frank, which she equates with old-fashioned goth and glam. And for a kid who's as into rap and hip-hop as she is, goth and glam ain't cool.
I was one of New York's original art-goths. First edition "Interview With a Vampire" in hand, black lipstick, blue hair. Debbie Harry was my neighbor, I hung with Sid Vicious at the Palladium and Joey Ramone dug my artwork. Cool, huh? If you're of a certain age, absolutely. But to a 12-year-old, my past is about as cool as someone like, um, Pat Boone might be to me. Some time warp.
Oddly, even with all the exposure, my daughter has never expressed an interest in seeing the film, and I've never really felt the overwhelming desire to show it to her. I've always been of the mindset to encourage her to find her own path. I don't force her to see things my way, and I really do try to open my mind to see things her way, for her sake. I figure that she'll appreciate my *cough* greatness someday, when she's feeling sentimental.
Dori, center, and her fellow floor show cast members, circa 1980.
But for now, her disinterest in my Rocky Horror experience is still intact. When I heard that "Glee" was doing a Rocky Horror episode, I half jokingly blurted, "I can't believe they didn't ask me to do a cameo. I mean, come ON. They could have had me pitted against Sue Sylvester. I could have been her dark nemesis." (Which, by the way, would have been fabulous.)
Well, you don't know what terror looks like on a child's face until you tell her that you'd like to appear on a major network series.
"No! Mom, no! You can't! Please, Mom, if they call, please don't go on "Glee." All my friends watch it."
Wow. OK. The kid does not want me to be on TV. And it's all about what her classmates would think. What I came to accept was that my kid wants her life to herself. She wants to go her own way, and she doesn't want me inserting myself into her world. Sounds familiar.
I was only a teenager when it all started happening for me. Only a few short years older than my daughter right now. I was a kid on the cover of magazines, interviewed by the top television hosts of the day and I was endlessly photographed. I met dozens of celebrities and I performed for them all. I knew no such thing as competition, nor did I feel the need to climb to the top, simply because I created the precedent. I was the top. And, for a few years, I was the reigning Queen of the Misfits. I ruled a part of New York City with a goth-punk flare and a glam touch. Suffice it to say, I went my own way.
And so, my feeling is that my daughter will get around to it eventually. Until then, it's just a jump to the left side of the kitchen, where the big show tonight is all about macaroni and cheese. No meatloaf.
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ReaderComments (Page 1 of 7)
10-20-2010 @ 9:43PM
mddeming said...YES!
10-19-2010 @ 8:17PM
joe said...Great article, your daughter doesn't know what she is missing by learning more from you about RHPS. Even though I was part of the Berkeley, CA cast 15 years after you started this trip I understand the connection and my friends back then never fully understood the connection I had to the show. It was a great time.
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10-20-2010 @ 9:41PM
Karl said...I remember seeing RHPS at Berkley in 85-86
10-21-2010 @ 12:30AM
GREG KLINE said...Sweet story. I can relate, because I was the first Rocky. One of my fonder memories was lifting Dori on my shoulders for "Wild and an untamed thing". For us, Rocky just spoke to us and made sense, when as restless late teens, we were otherwise bored. Rocky was a lifestyle. From July 21st 1978 on, when the 8th St Playhouse opened, someone was filming us or interviewing us every other weekend, and celebrities abounded. Everyone wanted to find out "what is this Rocky Horror thing"? Ultimately, we wound up appearing in two major motion pictures doing our thing. We took over whole cafe's at 2am, and rode the subways in corsets, fishnets, and 4" pumps. We woke up with smeared makeup traces and rice on our pillows, frequented trimming shops in midtown to buy rhinestones and such, and got together for costume sewing clutches. the otherwise world became peripheral. Kinda heady for a teenager. These days though, its passing whimsy. People my age give a momentary chuckle and say "You were in that? no kidding", and then the subject changes. We had a reunion recently, and I brought my two year old along. She couldn't figure out why people were excited about daddy, and her biggest thrill was simply being able to stay up so late. Love you Dori. Thanks for telling the tale.
10-26-2010 @ 4:30PM
Kimol said...I don't think I would want to endorse the RHPS role that I played if I was her, to any of my children. The best route really is to not show it. Save your money on future sex changes Http://bit.ly/dailysample
10-19-2010 @ 10:30PM
emily said...Wonderful article!
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10-20-2010 @ 9:14PM
veronica said...First of all: Wow how can you think the show was for aholes. Anyone who was cool and living in the city saw and LOVED the show. You must have been a nerd.
Secondly: I really feel for this mother. Imagine being the first Transvestite and basically an institution and your daughter 'doesn't get it'. Ughhh. How frustrating! I remember we would have parties, play the soundtrack and all dance and act out Sweet Transvestite. AN INSTITUTION from the past. So COOL
10-21-2010 @ 2:23AM
Gil Peter-Paul said...I saw "The Rocky Horrow Show" at the State Theater in New Brunswick, NJ many years ago with my friend Patti Maloney. I thought it was very entertaining. I give it 5 STARS.
10-19-2010 @ 9:48PM
Greta said...I can't believe that the poll about when you would let your kid watch Rocky Horror goes up to age 16 and then straight to "never". Um, it's a rated R movie, so isn't it reasonable that you would want to say "over 16"? I saw it for the first time at probably 19 (in college), and that was a perfect age for it. I love the film, loved the entire theater full-out experience (the absolute best way to see the movie, at least for the first time), love the music, but it is definitely NOT a movie for young kids or tweens.
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10-19-2010 @ 10:06PM
AZRocky said...Um...there's NOTHING in ROCKY HORROR that would shock, offend or confound a modern teenager, or for that matter, any teenager in the last 35 years. Compared to what kids are regularly exposed to on TV and the internet and the school yard, ROCKY is absolutely TAME. It's been shown on TV with almost no editing! If it were released today it would probably get a PG-13--in the UK it already has that rating (actually their equivalent, PG-12). And it's MY experience, with over 20+ years of ROCKY HORROR involvement, that MOST people discover it in their mid teens--which is when they NEED the sense of community and acceptance that ROCKY provides the absolute MOST. Your experience was the exception, NOT the rule.
10-20-2010 @ 5:54AM
Alicia said...I saw Rocky Horror at 14 and loved it. I totally understood it. Granted, I was also allowed to watch most R rated movies at that age.
10-20-2010 @ 8:49PM
LN said...Speak for yourself and your teenagers, AZRocky!
I saw this for the first time a few years ago when I was 18, and my mind was BLOWN. Shocked doesn't even cover it. I'd never even heard of a dildo before and there these freaks were... in drag... beating people with a 24 incher. Needless to say, I got quite an education that night. Probably could have gone another 18 years without it though.
10-20-2010 @ 8:51PM
James said...I completely disagree. I saw RHPS for the first time a few months after I had turned 15 with some friends in 1978. It was fantastic. Although my kids have no interest in it, if they had, I surely would have taken them if they wanted to go. I still tell them they should experience it at least once. Kind of like going to see KISS in concert.
10-20-2010 @ 10:28PM
Kung_Fu_Amanda said...Ugh, I absolutely agree with you about the voting options, Greta - it's almost as if they are saying there are two types of people in the world... those who are depraved enough to allow their children to watch RHPS, and those who deem it not appropriate at any age.
Personally, I think this is one instance where the music might be suitable at an earlier age than the actual show.
10-20-2010 @ 10:42PM
Mike said...You're probably right, AZRocky, that Rocky Horror would not shock kids today, but that's an indication, not of how far we've come, but how far we've fallen.
10-21-2010 @ 2:45AM
garnet said...I was only 12 when I saw the movie for the first time 22 years ago. I am still alive and have no ill effects from it. :)
10-21-2010 @ 3:28AM
DawnieNo1 said...I agree! I have not let my only daughter see it yet! She knows the premise and most of the songs, she can dance the 'Time Warp' (although, in all fairness , she learned that in elementary school) and is well acquainted with the legend that is Tim Curry (and her mother's lifelong crush!)! Still, the actual visual is not something that I am willing yet to share with my Christian (and still quite innocent) child! My oldest two sons have seen it, but not until after reaching at least 18-19!
10-26-2010 @ 4:35PM
Mary said...OK, I grew up in a Christian, morally balanced family, BUT, my mother made sure to explain at an early age that things we see on the television or at the movies are NOT real. Just because we see things on a screen doesn't mean we have to act them out in real life. RHPS was a defining film in my life. I saw it at age 15, I quickly memorized the songs, and seeing people have sex did not make me run out and do it myself. I will share this with my kids when they are ready, not at some random pre-determined age.
10-19-2010 @ 10:50PM
Ali said...This article is so cute! I'm really looking forward to the Glee episode feature the Rocky Horror Picture Show. When I was younger I thought my dad's turntable was the coolest thing ever, even though records were essentially already phased out, and my favorite album was the soundtrack to the Rocky Horror Picture Show! My dad and I put on many many performances of the Time Warp for my mom in the living. Although imagine my mom's surprise when upon returning home from a couple nights out of town and the first thing out of my 6-year-old mouth was "I'm a Sweet Transvestite from Transsexual, Transylvania!" followed shortly by "What's a transvestite?" My mother was not pleased, but after I was told to not repeat that phrase in public, she let my father teach all about the film's glory and all the ques for audience interaction!
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10-20-2010 @ 1:08AM
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