How Can I Spice Up Life With My Newly-Retired Husband?
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Dear AdviceMama,
Since he retired, my husband plays a lot of golf, and thinks our social life should consist of taking his mother out for dinner once a week. Any suggestions?
Signed,
Ready for Romance
Dear Ready,
Thanks for your question. In just a few words, you've beautifully summed up what many women -- and men -- long for as their marriages mature; a rekindling of connection, romance and a desire to make the "Retirement" chapter of their lives one that includes creating new, shared discoveries.
On the one hand, your husband may be living out his dream. Playing golf and having few demands on his time may be what he has fantasized about for years, as he put in long hours and "paid his dues" to support his family. You can't fault him for wanting to live the life he imagined.
At the same time, these are also your golden years, and now that your hubby is around more, it's perfectly fair for you to want to have some new experiences with him!
I am going to encourage you to lovingly speak your mind -- or more accurately, your heart. Instead of approaching your husband about how bored and unhappy you are, start by sharing the things you have done together that you enjoy.
Then, let him know what you imagined your retired life together would look like, focusing on two or three specific activities you'd love to do together. Avoid rambling; try to get to the bottom line quickly: "Sweetheart, I love that we've been talking walks in the evening. I really enjoy that time with you. I've been wondering if you'd be willing to try a couple of other new activities, like maybe taking bridge lessons together, or joining a travel club. What do you think?"
The clearer you are about what you want, and the less your words are tinged with resentment and disappointment, the greater your chances are of getting him to step out of his comfort zone so that he wants to offer you more.
In addition, you may also consider taking a stab at golf, since it's clearly something he's passionate about. The goal here is for each of you to come toward the other, exploring current interests you have while making room for things neither of you has yet explored.
By understanding that you each have valid dreams, and emphasizing the positive reasons that you want to forge new paths with your husband -- rather than complaining about how he's been disappointing you -- you may awaken something in him that gets excited about creating new adventures with his gal.
Yours in parenting support,
AdviceMama
AdviceMama, Susan Stiffelman, is a licensed and practicing psychotherapist and marriage and family therapist. She holds a Bachelor of Arts in developmental psychology and a Master of Arts in clinical psychology. Her book, Parenting Without Power Struggles, is available on Amazon. Sign up to get Susan's free parenting newsletter.
Since he retired, my husband plays a lot of golf, and thinks our social life should consist of taking his mother out for dinner once a week. Any suggestions?
Signed,
Ready for Romance
Dear Ready,
Thanks for your question. In just a few words, you've beautifully summed up what many women -- and men -- long for as their marriages mature; a rekindling of connection, romance and a desire to make the "Retirement" chapter of their lives one that includes creating new, shared discoveries.
On the one hand, your husband may be living out his dream. Playing golf and having few demands on his time may be what he has fantasized about for years, as he put in long hours and "paid his dues" to support his family. You can't fault him for wanting to live the life he imagined.
At the same time, these are also your golden years, and now that your hubby is around more, it's perfectly fair for you to want to have some new experiences with him!
I am going to encourage you to lovingly speak your mind -- or more accurately, your heart. Instead of approaching your husband about how bored and unhappy you are, start by sharing the things you have done together that you enjoy.
Then, let him know what you imagined your retired life together would look like, focusing on two or three specific activities you'd love to do together. Avoid rambling; try to get to the bottom line quickly: "Sweetheart, I love that we've been talking walks in the evening. I really enjoy that time with you. I've been wondering if you'd be willing to try a couple of other new activities, like maybe taking bridge lessons together, or joining a travel club. What do you think?"
The clearer you are about what you want, and the less your words are tinged with resentment and disappointment, the greater your chances are of getting him to step out of his comfort zone so that he wants to offer you more.
In addition, you may also consider taking a stab at golf, since it's clearly something he's passionate about. The goal here is for each of you to come toward the other, exploring current interests you have while making room for things neither of you has yet explored.
By understanding that you each have valid dreams, and emphasizing the positive reasons that you want to forge new paths with your husband -- rather than complaining about how he's been disappointing you -- you may awaken something in him that gets excited about creating new adventures with his gal.
Yours in parenting support,
AdviceMama
AdviceMama, Susan Stiffelman, is a licensed and practicing psychotherapist and marriage and family therapist. She holds a Bachelor of Arts in developmental psychology and a Master of Arts in clinical psychology. Her book, Parenting Without Power Struggles, is available on Amazon. Sign up to get Susan's free parenting newsletter.











ReaderComments (Page 1 of 3)
11-09-2010 @ 4:51PM
kathy murphy said...I have the perfect solution for spicing up his life.Through a bunch of hot chili peppers into his stew. That should spice things up !!
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11-20-2010 @ 9:13PM
MIKE said...KathyMurphy: the word is Throw, not through. Othewise the idea is stupid.
11-20-2010 @ 9:28PM
Skipper said...As Mike said...very stupid. Now go grow up.
11-20-2010 @ 10:15PM
snakerabbit said...As a 47 year old male who has never golfed, but used to shoot an amount of pool, I agree totally with the writer on all but two things. First of all, his golf-time may very well be his personal meditation time,( like my pool-shooting) and should not be intruded upon unless you are up to par. If you truly want to play then learn and at some time sit with him and tell him you want to golf with him,but you won't ask to go more than once a week. Pick a day, That way he won't fear you are gonna step in all the time. Also the travel club? Bad idea. Better to suggest you see some places together. Then if you BOTH travel well together,see if he is open to other couples joining in. You both may prefer the freedom to come and go as you please when travelling, rather than being tied to a group. Could only help bring you more together.Just remember as the author said, he may have worked all his life for this and the best way for you to get what you always wanted is to be open and honest with him and compromise. And expect him to as well.
11-20-2010 @ 11:44PM
John said...Get a life. I am a retired executive, and father of 10 fantastic children, married 53 years ago and made the decision after retirement 20 years ago, to enter the holy priesthood in the Eastern Catholic (orthodox) church. We became a no paid pastor of a church (still am) and then decided to spend the past 20 years not only serving God in the church, but "living the life of Jesus" in the community by volunteering our leisure time managing and coaching football to a couple of hundred kids from 7 to 14 years old six days a week. It has been one of the "best times" in my life. My wife approves and all of our children and our grandchildren approve of our involvement. It is not a "piece of cake", It's tough!. We get a lot of static from many parents! Trust me we have millions of kids in socity who are really messed up! It's about time my fellow pastors and priests, get off ther butts and off of the potiem and not only "preach the word" but live the word! ministering to these young lads in our communities. Many of these kids do not know the meaning of disapline and hard work! But, if they hang in there with our youth athletic program thier live change for the better. Many of us retired executive have a lot to offer to these young folks especially when it come to not onlt teach the kids about the x and o's of football but how to live out "life skills" of disapline, hard work, committment, responcibility, teamwork, goal setting, respect for athority, integratym character, moral values, leadership etc. that they will need to be our country's future teachers, doctors, military members, executives, blue and white collar worker, retail executives, police officers, firemen, politicians, pastors, lawyers, carpenters,etc. Cut some of your golf time and give back to your family and community. Volunteer your leisure time to ministering to Christ's hungray, sick, poor , needly and dying.the kids of our communities in America.. Fr. John
11-09-2010 @ 5:25PM
USA1 said...He is retired and doesn't whant to be with her all the time. That is why he plays golf. For her to join in would be a big mistake.
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11-17-2010 @ 9:24AM
Kurt Andolsun said...You did not go far enough. The real truth in situations like this is the spouse, husband or wife, that does go off on their own to "enjoy" their golden years really doesn't want to be married anymore and now that the kids are gone and no longer working is off doing what he/she wanted to do for a long time. The honest solution of the person that "wanders" is to get a divorce. And the honest solution for the ignored person, if he/she has the courage, is the same - get DIVORCED!
11-09-2010 @ 5:50PM
Ironic said...Do not "take up golf" at a late age just to spend time with a retired husband. A man generally doesn't want to play golf in mixed groups due to the delays in going to the ladies tee's, longer time and more strokes on the course, etc. Especially with a beginner. (And NO ... I am not being a chauvinist, just realistic!) What will happen is that he will stop playing golf ... something that he obviously enjoys. Give him this time willingly and he will be more likely to do other things that you BOTH can enjoy.
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11-11-2010 @ 9:42PM
linda said...Hmm, this guys sounds like a louse. I am not sure what made the LW think that he would change once he retired--once a selfish loaf, always a selfish loaf. Warning bells went off from her first paragraph--he would rather take his mother out to dinner once a week, and play golf, and has not asked you what YOU would like to do? WTF? It is clear you are the one making the effort in this marriage, probably since forever.....
My guess is that things have been this way for a while--you just let him get away with it while he was working because he was working. He was selfish then, he is selfish now. You will just need to point that out, as the world revolves around him, apparently. It will take time, as it is clear that you have never expressed your desires and probably have taken a backseat since forever.
Anyway, don't count on enthusiasm right away, or even soon. Take up your own activities, or additional ones besides what you do already.
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11-09-2010 @ 7:27PM
AL said...Sounds like he is putting his balls in the wrong Hole!
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11-09-2010 @ 7:58PM
Barbara Sanders said...Sorry, nothing is going to work. He feels like he "deserves" his golfing, since he prob. has worked most of his adult life. You do your thing, let him do his. Get your own interests and forget HIS...He might notice then, and you are just too "booked up" for when he might want to do "what he likes to do", which we all know what that is!!
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11-09-2010 @ 10:43PM
Niki said...Sorry, but ironic is just being a chauvinist. I see this prejudice on the golf course all the time, men assuming that the woman is the one holding up the course when it isn't. I took up golf when I realized I would have no weekend time with my husband if I didn't. Now, I play better than he does. Although he had no problems going to the ladies tee, I now play from wherever he does to save time. I hate slow play as much as he does, and find that my golfing gals do as well. I also love the game. We go on golf vacations together. I totally agree that golf is a great way to spend time with your spouse. Just make certain to take some lessons; and don't play a course with your husband until your game is ready for its level of difficulty.
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11-09-2010 @ 11:04PM
A. P Leah said...What about we retired at about the same time; worked about the same and was looking forward to retirement fun; esp. the kind that Al spoke of, and all he wants to do is watch TV. What do you suggest here.
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11-10-2010 @ 12:47AM
joblo said...Don't think AdviceMama read the whole letter: It's signed "Ready for Romance." She doesn't want to play golf or bridge, she wants sex, fer chrissakes! He might have given up on that due to years of neglect, so she has to make it really clear to him what she wants.
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11-10-2010 @ 4:29AM
pegandjohn said...I am 59 my honey is 54. He has fulltime job taking care or his 83 yr old mom. Every other week we have our time together. We cook favorite foods, enjoy then relax, watch tv, and rub, massage feet. and kiss every time our bithday comes up now matter how it shows up. Been a couple for 6 years. We listen to oldies and dance slow. Play bowling on line other games also! Just apreciating the others company. Like a couple of old teen agers!
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11-14-2010 @ 1:41PM
Outrider said...Its not easy after spending 45 yrs of going to work everyday and then going into retirement. I love my wife dearly, but all those years I was thrust into sloving manufacturing problems all day.
I am now spenting every waking minute at home, which is hard.
I know both the wife an I are trying to find ways to spice things up now as we donot have the work related schedules to deal with.
Retirement is an adjustment for sure, just like being married, so find that spot and go for it.
ps: Those of you who wait until your 70 to retirer, will only be cheating yourself out of the few yrs you may have left.
God Bless
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11-17-2010 @ 9:31AM
Kurt Andolsun said...I know your problem, you are uneducated and not used to treating people with respect and dignity! A clear sign is that your grammer is lousy, so I suspect you are a lousy human being. I bet if we talked to the people that worked under you that the majority of them are glad that you are gone.
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11-20-2010 @ 9:27PM
MIKE said...kURT, BEFORE YOU CORRECT OTHER PERSON WRITING, CORRECT YOURS, THE WORD IS GRAMMAR NOT GRAMMER.
11-19-2010 @ 8:37AM
Angiebaby said...Dear Ready for Romance,
If I understand your problem, and I think that I do, you are a golf widow with a useless albatross of a husband who only wants to go out with you when he can strike up a twofer and take out his old lady and his old mother at the same time. In his mind, this creates a menage a trois in which you and mommy dearest keep each other company while he fantasizes about the blonde two tables away as he swills his favorite bourbon.
Okay, listen carefully. I'm going to enlighten you as to how this dilemma can be corrected easily and in a timely manner, since none of us are getting any younger. DO sit down and have a heartfelt talk with your husband. Work all the sentimental words into the conversation, like love, together, intimacy, blah, blah, blah. You know, the same damn talk you've given him since you got married. He'll tune you out, just like he did the other 3,256 talks, but this time, you need to add a solution that you pretend to think will work for the both of you... and here it is: Tell Romeo that since you never get to go out with him just the two of you, you'd like to take up golf so you two can play together, as often as possible. Believe me, he'll just about sh*t in his pants when he hears this. Don't be alarmed by the "deer in the headlight" look. It's a natural response in a fight or flight emergency situation. But once the color returns to his face, he'll probably be rummaging through his pockets to fetch his calendar to set the date for your dinner for TWO, and trust me, he won't be worrying about his mother.
Now. You are halfway there. Halfway? Damn. Yep, it's going to take a little more conniving and stooping to the oldest female trick in the book to set the pattern. Certainly you don't want a one-night dinner stand, do you? Alrighty then. When you get home from dinner, you have to put out. Oh, yes you do, too! When you want to train a dog to sit, you give him a bone when he does good. Men aren't much different. When you want to train a man to sit through dinner with just you, you have to give him a boner when he does good. But don't be alarmed. You won't have to do this forever and ever. After a few intimate dinner dates, you can drop the sex part because he'll be trained. You may have to reinforce the treat every once in a while, but that's about it.
You can do this! The first step is the hardest part. Don't wait. Have "The Talk" tonight.
Signed,
You CAN teach an old dog new tricks!
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11-20-2010 @ 8:46PM
sondbr said...Certainly when the retirement years come, it's important to do some things together, but it's also good that each spouse maintain some independence, too. You should maintain friendships and activities you had before retirement. In past generations women were so dependent on their husbands and it's different now. My mom even quit driving once my dad retired because she said HE wanted to drive. She never went out with her friends like she used to and even, as her only daughter/child, we never went out to lunch or shopping together. She insisted that my dad come, too. They did EVERYTHING together and when he died she was lost. My husband is now retired and I vow not to make the same mistakes my mom did. I go out by myself a lot or with friends, do things with my grown children, drive a lot. Each person should have their own life and one together.
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