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Filed under: In The News, Education: Teens
Should kids be given the chance to master course work instead of failing outright? Credit: Corbis
Essentially, that's what West Potomac High School, in Alexandria, Va., is doing by banishing the F grade from transcripts in most cases, the Washington Post reports.
Instead of giving students failing grades, West Potomac has substituted a grade of "I" for incomplete, which means students still owe their teachers course work. Students will only get an F if they fail to complete their assignments and learn the required content in the months to come, according to the newspaper.
The goal of this change is to encourage students to continue working toward mastering material rather than accepting a failing grade and moving on, the Post reports, adding that this is one of the ways schools across the country have been trying to improve grading methods -- especially with regard to low-performing students.
In August, the school district in Mount Olive, N.J., banned the D grade in an effort to motivate students to work harder to achieve a C. The move prompted a considerable amount of debate in educational circles and the media; some considered it a great motivational tactic for kids who weren't putting in the work, while others thought it would serve only to further stress out kids who might not be capable of performing at a higher level.
Other schools in the Washington, D.C., area have made similar changes. T.C. Williams High School in Alexandria, Va., now allows incomplete grades to be given as placeholders, but with fixed time limits for completing the work. Montgomery County schools now score Fs as no lower than 50 percent when calculating grade point averages, instead of zero. And in Prince William County, schools have made it easier to retake tests and they award fewer outright zeroes, the Post reports.
However, the Post notes that few schools have gone as far as West Potomac.
"It's a huge paradigm shift," principal Clifford Hardison tells the newspaper, adding that he counted nearly 2,000 Fs when year-end grades were tallied last June at West Potomac, with a large group of teens failing more than one course.
Critics of the new strategy fear that by reducing the possibility of outright failure, teachers will have less leverage over poorly-performing students. They also believe it gives kids unrealistic expectations about the adult world they will soon join.
Mary Mathewson, a West Potomac English teacher, tells the Post the change takes away one of the very few tools teachers have to get kids to learn. She says the possibly of failing is a motivator for students, and thinks kids will now be under the impression that "they can do it whenever they want to, and it's not that big of a deal."
Mathewson reports that half of the first quarter grades for two 10th grade English classes were incompletes.
"I don't believe it's an extra chance," she says. "It's an out. The root problem is motivation. The root problem is not that we're not teaching them."
Mickey Mulgrew, Prince William's associate superintendent for high schools, tells the Post the growing belief is: "Who cares if you learned it on Monday or Tuesday, as long as you learned it? Once they demonstrate mastery, you give them credit for what they know."
Peter Noonan, assistant superintendent for instructional services in Fairfax County, Va., tells the Post a small group of entrepreneurial principals are trying new approaches, using standards-based ideas about the importance of learning content.
"If we really want students to know and do the work, why would we give them an F and move on?" Noonan tells the Post. " ... I think the students who are struggling should not be penalized for not learning at the same rate as their peers."
At West Potomac, which has an enrollment of 2,200, learning will now trump grading and the emphasis will be on what students know. To help students succeed, teachers will be on duty more afternoons and Saturdays and they will also act as mentors. Finally, if students fail to complete necessary work, they may have to attend a last-chance summer session, the Post reports.
But many parents and students are concerned about fairness, as conscientious students who keep up with the work and study hard could ultimately get the same final grade on their transcript as one who may have skipped class and/or failed a test multiple times.
Student Harmain Rafi, 16, tells the Post she fails to see how it "balances out" not to hold students to the same deadlines and test opportunities.
"It more or less says all the hard work I'm doing isn't going to be worth anything," she says.
Parent Carol Farquhar Bolger tells the Post fairness is an issue for kids who play by the rules.
"The question becomes: What is a grade from West Potomac going to mean now? What does an A mean now?" she says.
The school's Parent-Teacher-Student Association is studying the change, and an opposition group has formed, calling itself Real World, Real Grades.











ReaderComments (Page 1 of 4)
11-16-2010 @ 10:19PM
ali said...As a high school teacher, I think this is a GREAT idea! I have some students that will get it eventually, but can't get it as quickly as the majority. Do I hold everybody back, or give the few the time they need and move on with the others? I want them to know the subject, not just fail and give up!
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11-17-2010 @ 11:36AM
me said...Students should not be in a class that is so far above their learning level that they get failing grades. Teachers and schools in general should not pass a child that can't do the work.
11-17-2010 @ 1:31PM
mdog002 said...Here is an idea...Let's don't even have grades...just go to school whenever and if you feel like it. In fact, lets make getting out of bed in the morning optional!!! This is what is wrong with our society...pampering those poor disenfranchised masses expecting them to actually accomplish, achieve and become something other than a drag on society!!!
11-17-2010 @ 1:52PM
in1nuthouse said...We need to stop teaching our children "outs" and excuses on why they can't do something! Don't tell me it's because they don't get it like the others do or whatever. Parents YOU are just as much of this problem! Help your kids instead of giving the teachers ALL the work load. Oh and by the way I am a parent of 2 beautiful girls and my oldest is autistic and could barely speak when she first started school and now in 4th grade she is in a gifted class!
11-17-2010 @ 5:03PM
Anne said...With all respect, I sincerely hope you are just a high school student and not a teacher in our school system. Unless a child is in a group of students who are too far advanced for them, or have a learning disability, there is no excuse for them to fall so far behind that they fail regularly. And, if they do, then they need to be held back a year. NO MOVING ON FOR THEM.
Not allowing a child to fail and face the consequences is why our children are falling so far behind the children of India, China, Japan, and virtaully all of the European nations in their math, science and language skills. Parents and even some teachers today place more value on sports and extra curricular activities than actual classic education.
If all sports teams hade as a requirement that a student have a B average, I guarantee there would be a significant change in student attitudes. If all students were required to have a high school diploma or GED before they could obtain a drivers license, then the same thing would happen. More students would place a value on education than all the after school activites which seem to permeate our society.
Shame on those proposing to remove the failing category. Just think, when these slackers hit the job market, then they will finally get an F for sure....its called "Fired".
11-16-2010 @ 3:48PM
dougalcandy said...Sadly this is where our world is headed. Children from an early age are taught they are wonderful, special, can't fail, etc. Parents make excuses for their children so the children do not learn to have accountability. I have heard of Little League teams where there are no losers, only winners. Teacher's are no longer allowed to tell a student their work is "poor" even when it really is! When I was in school, as I'm sure many others can attest to, if you failed a class, you had to go home and deal with the wrath of your parents, whichwas a GREAT motivator for doing better. Now, everyone is a winner, everybody passes, no negative consequences for anything. Problem is, what happens when the child goes to college?
"If we really want students to know and do the work, why would we give them an F and move on?" Noonan tells the Post. " ... I think the students who are struggling should not be penalized for not learning at the same rate as their peers."
In college, no one cares if you can't learn at the same rate as your peers, hand in the work or fail. In the real world, your boss will most especially not praise you if you are doing a terrible job. He will, however, FIRE you!. Young people are gettiing to college and the job market and they can't understand why they aren't being told how wonderful and special they are. Part of growing up is learning to deal with failure and disappointment, and we are doing our children a huge disservice if we don't teach them this.
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11-17-2010 @ 10:03AM
Abraxus said...I kind of agree it's good to give students a chance to "make up" for bad grades, but I also think there should be a limit on where they can make it up to - which in the case of this school would probably not be good enough. I think if you didn't work hard or just didn't get the material or were out a lot sick etc, then YES, give an "I" and allow for make up, BUT the grade you can get should be limited to a C so that the kids who worked hard for their A's and B's don't have a disincentive to work. I mean, why get your work in on time if the kids who don't, still get the same grade.
I am all for giving people a second chance, but this is another example of how we in this country are setting our kids up to fail later in life. It's just the same as saying all the kids win at a little kids race meet or party - everyone gets the same medal or prize - so, no one learns how to take defeat gracefully, no one learns how to be a "good" (humble) winner, no one learns that in life you won't always win.
I failed Physics in High School, I just didn't get it at all, but even a make up might not have helped me at all - so what grade do they propose to give to the students who DON'T pass the second time around - another incomplete?????
11-17-2010 @ 12:28PM
lively said...Yep, this is another "dumbing down" of our young people. I struggle and struggle to get my teenage sons to understand the concept of "consequences for your actions". If they blow off homework, there should be consequences, one of which should be and NEEDS to be holding them back if they are not up to snuff! To the one HS teacher who asked if they should hold everyone up for one student, the answer is NO, JUST HOLD BACK THE STUDENTS WHO CANNOT OR WILL NOT DO THE WORK.
My sons were "diagnosed" (by the school system, not a behavioral analyst or a doctor) with a "learning disability" called "graphic output disorder". What this simply means is they DO NOT LIKE TO DO HOMEWORK. My solution was to take away privileges until they understood the need to live up to their responsibilities (school) and get off their butts and complete assignments. The school's solution: NEVER MAKE THEM COMPLETE ANOTHER ASSIGNMENT. Also , give them "testing accommodations". Both of my children have told me, "I understand the material perfectly, mom, but I REFUSE TO DO ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF SCHOOL"
I, as a parent, am at a loss. How do I enforce consequences, when society as a whole is becoming a namby-pamby "make everyone feel like they are a success" even when they are not. I would pull my kid from this school district. A failing grade does not mean you are a failure as a person, just that you have some things to figure out scholastically.
As an employee at a 4-year university, I see the results. Jimmy can't be bothered to complete assignments because he's too busy playing "black ops"...so the Professor is burdened with arranging make up work, etc. If we keep holding their hands and wiping their butts, they will never learn, people!!!
11-17-2010 @ 2:16PM
Lita said...Actually, this is not where "the world" is heading. It is where the United States is heading. Ever have a look at the way children in other countries are learning? We used to be number one in many areas, especially as far as turning out members of the science-related community is concerned (doctors, engineers, scientists, etc.) but that was in days gone by. The same foreign countries that are kicking our butts now still send their children here for higher education. What does that tell you about what we're instilling in our own children? The deterioration started when teaching moved from phonics to whatever garbage they're doing now, and the mess was intensified to giving away trophies to every child and, of course, canceling dodge ball because children couldn't cope. It's long past the time we started doing right by our children... again.
11-17-2010 @ 2:28PM
Jenny Derfler said..."Sadly this is where our world is headed. Children from an early age are taught they are wonderful, special, can't fail, etc."
So I guess that means Barney the Dinosaur isn't good 4 our kids? Which is okay b/c once I started growing up, I found that stupid dinosaur 2 be more of a creepy pedophile who brainwashed young kids' minds w/ stuff that built up their egos, not their self-esteem.
11-17-2010 @ 2:45PM
Jesslynn119 said...Doug, I understand drawing a parallel to 'no winners or losers'.. unfortunately this issue has NOTHING to do with that scenario. In America, our educational system is the losers. The sooner the adults in this country start to accept that, and plug in, the sooner things will start to change. We cannot keep the same, a,b,c,d,f standard of grading because very simply, the world has changed since 1975. Ask yourself Doug, when you see a letter grade of C in Math, what does it mean to you really?? Do you know that your student doesn't know simple fractions or has no study skills, or simply doesn't turn in homework but knows the content? The idea here is to really help our students (and next generation) KNOW the content.. because really, they are our next generation in a GLOBAL ECONOMY. Because like it or not Doug, and others with a similar mindset (not to single out), as soon as these kids graduate, they are behind, and that's a simple data fact. They are competing immediately for jobs with kids in India, UK, China, and others..and we need to get them up to speed. Trust me, kids have no trouble learning how to fail. We need to teach them content, period, and quick. In my humble opinion, and Educational experience.
11-17-2010 @ 5:03PM
Anne said...Well said
11-16-2010 @ 4:09PM
Alicia said...Honestly, I feel like our country's new fear of failure is more dangerous than failure itself. Used to be, you failed. You worked your ass off, you got better and you succeeded and your failure was forgiven. Failure wasn't the end of the world and failing taught you responsibility and that there was a way out. Now children go into crisis mode if they think they'll fail because they've never been allowed to, so they don't know how to get back out again. Trust me, children are resilient. They can take an ego-bruising in order to learn an important life lesson.
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11-16-2010 @ 5:15PM
lrecctx1973 said...It DOES matter when they learn it. When our kids grow up and get jobs, their employers are not going to be on a "do it till you get it right" kick. These kids need to learn the material, do the assignments and take the consequences if they do badly on a test. What are we teaching them if we elminate a failing grade? What are we teaching them if we tell them that its okay to learn it later? We are teaching our children that its okay to be lazy and unproductive. Its hard enough for them to go to college after high school and keep up with the work without their parents checking to make sure that they have done it. Its hard for them to discipline themselves to make time to study when a professor does not remind them everyday that they have an assignment due or a test scheduled. In college, there are no do-overs. And we ask ourselves why kids today are such a mess. We make it so easy for them. We let them redo an assignment if they don't score well on it. We let them retake a test if they failed it the first time.
Kids today need to learn that there isn't always going to be the opportunity to try again. They need to realize that learning, studying, is something that they have to do in order to make it in the world. We cannot keep coddling our children. They our the future. We can't sit by and let the world tell us or them that its okay to be a failure and that you always get second chances because it just isn't true. If you want the best for your children, you need to teach them that education is one of the most important things they can do for themselves, that failure is not an option, and that by failing, it teaches us to work harder next time to make up for it.
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11-16-2010 @ 6:23PM
dougalcandy said...Sadly this is where our world is headed. Children from an early age
are taught they are wonderful, special, can't fail, etc. Parents make
excuses for their children so the children do not learn to have
accountability. I have heard of Little League teams where there are
no losers, only winners. Teacher's are no longer allowed to tell a
student their work is "poor" even when it really is! When I was in
school, as I'm sure many others can attest to, if you failed a class,
you had to go home and deal with the wrath of your parents, whichwas a
GREAT motivator for doing better. Now, everyone is a winner,
everybody passes, no negative consequences for anything. Problem is,
what happens when the child goes to college?
"If we really want students to know and do the work, why would we give
them an F and move on?" Noonan tells the Post. " ... I think the
students who are struggling should not be penalized for not learning
at the same rate as their peers."
In college, no one cares if you can't learn at the same rate as your
peers, hand in the work or fail. In the real world, your boss will
most especially not praise you if you are doing a terrible job. He
will, however, FIRE you!. Young people are gettiing to college and the
job market and they can't understand why they aren't being told how
wonderful and special they are. Part of growing up is learning to
deal with failure and disappointment, and we are doing our children a
huge disservice if we don't teach them this.
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11-17-2010 @ 10:16AM
Abraxus said...I have a 3 year old and she has regular bedtimes, is disciplined, is taught how to behave in given situations, she is reprimanded when she does wrong, praised when she does right, she is told when she fails at something that she has to try harder but that sometimes she just won't be good at something. I am always trying to instill the right values and encourage empathy etc, and when she went along with a crowd of kids at pre school yesterday and got in trouble she was told off in no uncertain terms and had to apologize to her teacher to boot - she was very upset because she got in trouble but I bet she won't do it again. My point is, I am in the minority among the parents I meet who all subscribe to their my kid is perfect mentality - well, their kids aren't perfect and neither is mine, but MY daughter already understands that if she works hard and is good, then it's a much happier place to be that being in time out and in trouble!
11-17-2010 @ 12:36PM
lively said...@Abraxus: Keep it up. Just know that as soon as your daughter enters Kindergarten, it will all change. I BEGGED my sons' teachers to hold them accountable for their actions, but was told that in order to keep kids on a good "mental level" it was bad to tell them that they were falling behind, or needed to work harder. Instead, the deadlines became non-existant, and the requirement to turn in their assignments was no longer a requirement. Consequently, my sons are now in HS, and struggling to this day to complete assignments, etc. And they'll STILL be allowed to graduate! I have no more privileges to pull from them, their rooms are bare, no gaming systems, etc. The only computer time they are allowed is for homework, but since they both adamantly refuse to do it because the teachers won't hold them accountable, neither of them cares.
So much for trying to teach our children how to be responsible and contribute to society...
11-17-2010 @ 6:28AM
Jane said...When we stop treating our children like they are the center of the universe and breakable, only then will they have the opportunity to mature into capable adults. It's okay to fail. That is where they learn perserverance. It's okay not to make the team. That is when they find out their real passion. Children who are not allowed to fail become young adults that can't handle real failure. I live near a community that has a very high suicide rate due to the fact that kids have grown up not learning how to handle failures and set-backs. Let your child fall and/or fail. Your job as a parent is to be there to help them learn from it, NOT to save them from it.
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11-17-2010 @ 7:13AM
Alicia said...I can't like this enough. I agree completely.
11-17-2010 @ 7:13AM
Alicia said...I can't like this enough. I agree completely.