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Was Michigan Teacher Wrong to Eject Students for Anti-Gay Remarks?
Filed under: In The News, Bullying
Someone was bullied in a Michigan classroom on Oct. 20. Exactly who was the victim and who was the bully, however, depends on your point of view.
Popular opinion -- at least as it was expressed at a community forum held Nov. 8 -- says Howell High School teacher Jay McDowell was in the right.
McDowell was suspended for a day, his supporters say, because he defended gay and lesbian students against hate speech. However, district officials say he violated the First Amendment rights of students.
Both sides, though, generally agree on the sequence of events that day.
Many Howell High School students came to class wearing purple T-shirts for Spirit Day, a national effort to oppose the bullying of gay and lesbian young people.
However, a female student came to McDowell's class wearing a Confederate flag belt buckle, instead. McDowell told her to remove it. She did so without defiance.
Then a male student asked why she was not allowed to wear a Confederate flag when other students were allowed to wear purple as a political statement. After McDowell explained his position, he asked the student if he had changed his mind.
The student said no. He still believed homosexuality violated his religious beliefs. At that point, McDowell ejected him from the classroom. Another student then spoke in support of the first student. He, too, was ejected.
Kim Root, a spokesperson for the Howell School District, tells ParentDish, officials learned all this after a thorough investigation. The students were not acting angry or belligerent, she says.
Even McDowell himself confirms this in interviews with the Associated Press and other news organizations.
Root says the district investigation was prompted by complaints from parents about how McDowell handled the students. She says officials suspended him after determining he violated district policies that protect students' freedom of speech.
The incident comes on the heels of highly publicized suicides by gay young people, suicides apparently prompted by bullying.
Emotions were running high at the Nov. 15 community forum before the Howell School Board.
Graeme Taylor, a 14-year-old resident of Ann Arbor, Mich., came to speak in support of McDowell.
"When you hear of things like Dr. King's speech that one day he wanted his grandchildren, his posterity, to not be judged on the color of their skin but on the content of their character, I hope that one day we, too, can be judged by the content of our character and not by who we love," he says in a video recording of the meeting.
"There is a silent Holocaust out there where an estimated 6 million gay people every year kill themselves," he adds.
That number is a bit inflated.
According to national statistics, an estimated 5 million Americans -- gay and straight -- of all ages attempt suicide every year.
David Hudson Jr., a scholar at the First Amendment Center in Arlington, Va., tells ParentDish McDowell is treading on unstable ground, as case law falls on both sides of the debate.
In Minnesota, a student wore a T-shirt in 2001 proclaiming "Straight Pride" and depicting a man and woman holding hands.
U.S. District Court Judge Donovan W. Frank ruled the school couldn't censor a message on a shirt merely because other students find it offensive, unless the shirt will disrupt the school environment.
However, the 9th U.S. Circuit of Appeals in California upheld the right of a school to ban an anti-gay T-shirt in 2007, ruling that gay and lesbian students are a protected minority.
Hudson tells ParentDish courts are more clear on the wearing of the Confederate flag. It is considered protected expression, he says, unless schools can prove it will inflame racial tensions or otherwise substantially disrupt the school days.
The bottom line is that teachers and administrators can't cherry pick the opinions they will allow to be expressed. The guiding principle on such matters was decided by the U.S. Supreme Court in the 1969 case of Tinker vs. Des Moines.
Justices ruled students could wear black armbands in protest of the Vietnam War because school officials already allowed students to wear political buttons and exercise other forms of expression.
In a video recorded of this week's community forum, McDowell tells the school board the boy he tossed out of class is not bad. In fact, he adds, that's what worries him.
He says he wonders why the kids he ejected felt safe expressing views against homosexuality.
"That's on us," McDowell says. "We have to create an environment in these schools that makes it safe for everyone."
Root says district officials in Howell hope to use this incident as a teachable moment.
"We hope we can move on from this discussion and look at district polices on bullying and harassment," she tells ParentDish.
Educators find themselves on a perpetual tightrope, she says. Certainly gay students need to be protected from bullying, she adds, but people's First Amendment rights also have to be protected.
"There are some things that are obviously hate speech," she tells ParentDish. "Other things are obviously not."
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ReaderComments (Page 3 of 37)
11-17-2010 @ 6:56PM
Tom said...The teacher said,
He says he wonders why the kids he ejected felt safe expressing views against homosexuality.
"That's on us," McDowell says. "We have to create an environment in these schools that makes it safe for everyone."
It sounds like he and others want everyone to feel safe except those who believe homosexuality is sin. Since when does a culture have a right to change God's design and will? If 100% of the people in our nation said this was OK, it would not change truth, it is sin and harmful. They are not killing themselves because they are not being accepted, they are killing themselves because of internal torment that comes to anyone who is out of God's will. When we does as the Bible says and speak the truth in love, it is not hate.
11-17-2010 @ 10:45AM
Beth said...WOW!! Maybe that teacher should read up on his history. The rebel flag is not a sign of racisim. He step on that students rights as well. Was the other student spewing slurs or inappropiate behavior, no, he was stating what he or she believed in same thing that they were doing by wearing purple that day. Is this what we can teach others that it is ok to speak our minds only when it is approved by the majority. Tolerance goes both ways!!
11-17-2010 @ 10:38AM
Chazzar said...What next Brown Shirts and Swaztikas? jeeze....too much freedom of speech has its complications.
11-17-2010 @ 10:40AM
tara said...I can understand what you're saying, but respectfully I think you miss the point. Simply expressing an opinion should never be considered bullying or hate speech, as you put it. This teacher, while clearly trying to do the right thing, seems to have crossed the line. This could have been handled so much better, by provoking a discussion between both sides of this issue and coming out on the other end with a little more understanding of opposing positions. But by embracing one point of view while silencing another, all he did was create a further division between the two and make it less likely that both can have mutual respect for one another while still disagreeing on the main point of homosexuality. These kids who were ejected were, by the teacher's own admission, not bullying anyone or being belligerent in any way, so to silence their right to an opinion was wrong. I agree that they should be more sensitive to those who are being bullied and pressured into suicide, but this was certainly not the way to accomplish that sensitivity. All he did was make them dig their heels in even further. It's a shame, but in this case, I would say those who were silenced were the victims here, not those who didn't want to hear their message.
11-17-2010 @ 6:37PM
jrl said...This is one of the problems with the liberal point of view. They hear hate speech in every view that disagrees with their own.
11-17-2010 @ 11:26AM
pwayne said...Katie,
Homosexuality is a choice; a person can choose to follow what they are or follow what is easier for them to do as in this case be homosexual. If you are, then you KNOW there are going to be people who are INTOLERANT--who do not allow or agree or put up with--the fact that homosexuals will go to any means to get their point across. Since they are both female and male in this 'new gender' series, then both of these 'sexes' fall in under the Constitution and any law requiring either male or female to abide within that particular law. The homosexual agenda is set up to stuptify not rectify the law, mush like what the muslims want with the inacting of sharia law.
Homosexuals were not bullied for they too taunt whoever they are around, it is the homosexual side that is heard and believed first as if there wern't a liar among them.
In this case, it was the NON-HOMOSEXUAL student who did not want to tolerate the other chosen ones. Remember straight people who go to church has a Constitutional right to free speech as do gays.
I take offense in that their deaths are referred to as a Holocaust. Being a Messianic Jew, having past family members die and be burned in the gas chambers was real, not brought on the Jew because of thier choic in how they believe; IT WAS SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY WERE JEWS.
Suicide is another choice; one each individual, straight or gay, of any skin tone make on a daily basis. It is not epidemic in that the individual chooses not to live, it is an epidemic when used to further any agenda and in thi case the homosexual agenda.
11-18-2010 @ 8:07AM
Alice said...The teacher has the right to remove an openly defiant student from the classroom in order to stop any situation from escalating for the safety of all. I think one had to be there to pass any other judgement because I do not believe it was only about homosexuality.
11-17-2010 @ 11:32AM
Sandy said...He didn't say he hated gays. He said it was a violation of his religious beliefs. Not supporting homosexuality DOES NOT equal gay-hating bullying protesters. Neither he nor his parents have anything to be embarrassed about.
He wasn't wearing anything hateful or acting disrespectful. He was expressing his views in a calm way. If one can't have open dialogues as students in a classroom, how do you expect them to be able to discuss sensitive topics calmly as adults?!?
11-17-2010 @ 5:55PM
LPL said...If you choose to hate someone that is your problem. It becomes my problem when I have to hear your hatefull words and see your hatefull actions. Hate all you want. Just keep your mouth shut about it.
11-17-2010 @ 12:29PM
joe tonelli said...HOMOSEXUALS are a danger to all of us. Just ask the kids who were harmed by GAY priests. People blame the Catholic religion. I contend that these GAYS used the religion to hide their actions.
When is the GAY and LESBIAN community going to start to police their own?
Lastly. When was the word GAY stolen from the dictionary to represent a segment of the population?
11-17-2010 @ 12:10PM
Kara said...True Christians don't hate gay people. In fact, true Christians know a sin is a sin, and NONE of us are without sin. Heterosexuals commit as much sexual sin as any Homosexual. And ALL sin has consequences. We ALL need God's grace and forgiveness. I'm not gay, but I would like to invite any one who is to please not discount Christianity just because you are. Learn for yourself. God IS Love. He is greater than government, race, gender, or sexuality. Human beings are not.
11-17-2010 @ 11:51AM
lively said...Katie, why should his parents be embarrassed? They should be PROUD of their son for stating his own religious beliefs. Not many HS students would do that.
This student has a right to express his opinion as much as the others do. He did NOT spew hate language, he simply stated that he felt that homosexuality goes against the doctrines of his religion. How is that hateful?
It is no different than a person of the Jewish faith saying that eating pork goes against the doctrines of their religion. Are you going to persecute the Jewish faith by saying they "hate" pigs?
I am a heterosexual. I reserve my right to say that the homosexual lifestyle goes against the doctrines of my religious beliefs. I base those beliefs on the teachings of my pastor, and the bible. I DO NOT "hate" the homosexual population, but I also do not approve of the lifestyle. Much in the same sense as this: I DO NOT DRINK, and do not approve of that form of recreation. However, I do not "hate" the people who do drink and choose to have that as their form of relaxation.
My only confusion on the subject is why the homosexual population thinks that everyone else needs not only to know about their sexual choices, but also needs to approve it. Your right to freedom stops the moment in infringes on mine. I don't care what you do in the bedroom! Does it affect your personality, does it change who you really are? NO, therefore it really DOES NOT need to be public knowledge...
11-17-2010 @ 1:10PM
marion Galloway said...You have been brain washed. You do not have a mind of your own. You think what is politically correct. Would you not speak out against a person murdering some one? Is that considered hate speech? This life style is going to destroy the homo. they will get incurable diseases from the perverted things they do when having sex by using parts created for defection(anus) and consuming food (mouth). The hate comes when you encourage them to do such things. God says if you agree with the perverted life style, you will be judged on judgment day as if you participated in it. Wake up people. The red white and blue to other countries mean drugs, homosexuals, destroyed families because of divorce, whorish women showing everything they have and we can go on and on.
11-17-2010 @ 12:17PM
starvxn4 said...Has anyone else read that this boy hates homosexuals? From what I have interpreted, he didn't agree with homosexuality, which is quite different. I don't see anything wrong with that expressed opinion. Why should his parents be embarrassed? I'd would be proud to know my child stood up for his beliefs, even if I disagreed with them. The only one who should be embarrassed is the teacher who ejected them from the classroom. Once again, it's liberalism that allows free speech, but only for a select few.
11-17-2010 @ 12:32PM
WhyMeLord said...I think the teacher and the school system missed a choice opportunity to engage the students in a real world discussion of the issues and further a possibility of a workable solution to the questions.
Been there and watched it happen ... with some very amassing results some of which no one could have anticipated.
11-17-2010 @ 12:22PM
BOB PINARDI said...Clearly a case where the student was smarter than the teacher. There is no difference in the conferderate flag and the rainbow flag. Neither one should be banned.
11-17-2010 @ 12:38PM
Tony said...It's my opinion that the confederate flag stands for an enemy power that is a direct threat to the civil rights and safety of millions of people worldwide, not just other americans. Confederate supporters are often anti - multiculturalistic, they outwardly express their resent and hatred for others based on their ethnicity and sexual orientarion, and are all around belligerent people as you saw in this case..always looking to pick a fight and bully someone different than their narrow and often christian fundamentalistic view of how everyone "should be". The gay pride flag stands for acceptance and tolerance of all peoples and thats why it should be allowed but not the confederate flag. The confederate flag stands for hate and belligerence, and an amendment should be considered making it illegal to display, and punish anyone who does with hate crime charges and treason.
11-17-2010 @ 12:43PM
Chrystal said...The boy in the classroom was not spewing hate speech. He simply asked why it was ok for others to express thier opinions in class and not for those who feel differently. He was asked by the teacher if he had changed his opinion on homosexuality and the student said no and then explained why. Just because you disagree with someone's religious beliefs doesn't mean you get to censor them. The students were not being rude or disruptive. They were expressing thier personal beliefs, which they have every right to do, just as the other children were doing. I love how, in this country, only left wing liberals have freedom of speech! Wake up!
11-17-2010 @ 1:03PM
cclynne said...Wearing the confederate flag has nothing to do with pride for the South . The majority of people who wear it have no connection with the South. It's only used as a passive aggressive message. If your American you should have an American Flag. If not go back to Europe.
People are too involved in other peoples life. What is anyone doing to correct the heterosexual community. It's filled with a bunch of hypocrites. If your truly religious why are you not standing against premarital sex, divorce, and adultery. The divorce rate is over 50% and has nothing to do with homosexuality.
11-17-2010 @ 1:11PM
gchad2003 said...It is most certain that the only "hate" being reflected in this story is the hate for Christianity. It appears that every "side" has the right to express their belief except those holding to Christianity, at elast according to this teacher. It is no more wrong to saythat one believes homosexuality is a sin that it is to say that one believes that murder is a sin. The fact is that it was an expression of individual belief and not of hatred toward a participant. The expression of intolerance for the sin does not immediately translate to intolerance for the person. There are bullies everywhere and in every facet of life. One must learn to live through bullying unless we intend to enforce anti-bullying laws in the home against siblings, in the office against co-workers, on the field, in the parking lot, literally everywhere we go. Any one been shopping on Black Friday before? Don't even try to tell me there are no bullies there! Come on people - it is more about what happens in the home and inthe heart that allows us to face or fall to rejection and bullying. And bullying will ALWAYS be a part of life, no matter how many laws we pass. Take a look at congress under Obama - biggest bunch of bullies in one schoolyard ever! Parents are not teaching their children how to live with trials and difficulties, but are coddling them instead. Then when their feelings get hurt, they either scream discrimination (and that is not only a miniority cry anymore), UNFAIR, or poor pitiful me. It's time to grow up and realize that life is difficult at times, and in the next few decades, it ain't gonna get any better. While I disagree with Darwin on his theory of evolution, I do agree that only the fittest survive. Get some backbone and beat the kids that are bullying you up. Then they'll leave you alone.