
Chinese Parent Amy Chua Talks Extreme Discipline and Parenting Regrets
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Author Amy Chua and her family. Credit: The Penguin Press
In Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother, the Yale law school professor sets out to explain why she thought the Chinese approach to raising kids was superior to the Western way. And why her rebellious daughter is making her regret some of those choices. An edited version of our chat with Chua follows.
ParentDish: What is the Chinese way and how does it differ from Western child rearing?
Amy Chua: I'm using the term "Chinese parent" very loosely -- it's really more of an immigrant mentality. Basically, I'm describing the way that my parents raised me, with a very strong emphasis on academic excellence and fewer choices. I wasn't allowed to do a lot of things when I was little that other people got to do.
PD: There's been a lot of buzz lately that Chinese parents will only accept perfection from their children. True?
AC: I think what the Chinese parent is conveying to the child is not "You have to get an A or I will reject you," but "I believe in you so much that I believe you can be excellent, and I will be in the trenches with you and I'm not going to let you give up." In the end, the Chinese approach is not about A's and achievement, but it's really about helping your child be the best that they can be, and that's usually better than they think.
PD: Did you find it hard to deal with when you were a kid?
AC: In retrospect, my parents having high expectations for me, coupled with love, was the greatest gift that they could give me and it's why I decided to parent my own two children the same way.
PD: What do you reject from Western parenting styles?
AC: For me the biggest difference is that Western parents worry much more about their children's self-esteem whereas Chinese parents don't. They assume strength rather than fragility, and because of that that they behave very differently. A lot of the techniques and things they say seem very harsh to Westerners.
PD: How did your daughters respond?
AC: With my first daughter, Sophia. things went very smoothly, and I think I got a little cocky and I thought, 'Parenting is easy.' Then my second daughter, Lulu, came along; she's a real fireball and I got my comeuppance. From day one, it was always a little bit rocky, but then at 13, Lulu rebelled. It was a real crisis for me, she rebelled against my strictness but also seemingly against everything I stood for.
PD: You write in the book about a big blowup with Lulu, after which you eased up a bit and let her make more of her own choices. If you could go back, would you do things differently?
AC: I would probably do the same thing with minor adjustments. I have many regrets. I wish that I hadn't been so harsh at the time. I wish I hadn't lost my temper. I wish that I'd paid a little more attention to the individual personalities of my two children. I think I would have given my daughters, in retrospect, a little more choice. They have much more freedom now. I'm very, very proud of my girls. They are confident, happy girls with huge personalities.
PD: Did you wind up with a different view of parenting overall?
AC: Very much so. This is still a work in progress. I'm not saying that the Chinese way is the best approach and that it's for everybody. At the end, I wondered if a hybrid approach is better.











ReaderComments (Page 3 of 15)
1-12-2011 @ 4:04PM
bobbiej981 said...I agree Shellfish789, all the Asians I know don't even want to be like their parents. You are speaking the truth, if the Western World is so bad WHY DO THEY ALL WANT TO LIVE HERE??? Mrs Chua even Married an American..why didn't she marry her own race??? They want to get away from their Life Style and Have Freedom that is why even Mrs. Chua made a change!! Yet she controls her house hold in the ways of the past. There has to be a Healthy Balance to raising children, each child is different. So you have to deal with each one differently. You all so for got some thing that you never here about or read. In Japan they Do Not Accept the Gay Life Style for employment. My friend got accecpted to work at Disney Japan for 7 yrs. She was a Disney Designer in Anaheim, CA. The job offered all expense's pd. for 7 yrs. The Japanese pay very well. When she got there she was told they only accept Headersexuals to work there, that is how she got the job. She all so said they smoke a lot and hardly sleep out there. They sleep on the Bus, train and some at even work, everyone works there all the time. After 7 yrs they offered her a full time position to stay in Japan. She came back home to the US.
1-12-2011 @ 6:36PM
Chun Ping said...It's obvious that comments made by Shellfish789 are OPINIONS people, and should not be accepted as fact.
1-12-2011 @ 2:36PM
Charlene said...Mrs. Chua selected to train her daughters just like she trained the 2 cute dogs in the photo with her family. And the dogs probably had more freedom play, roam and run around than her girls did.
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1-12-2011 @ 2:20PM
shellfish789 said...Correction....I was in a hurry when I wrote this.....
That is why a lot of Asians commit suicide, jump off of buildings and become alcoholics....or the parents become abusive if they come home with a "B"...the parents become verbally and sometimes abusive......you never HEAR ABOUT THE DOWN SIDE of their cultural......it is well hidden...if you check with many university and police stations ...you will find a lot of them commit suicide and/or have criminal past.......I find it funny that THEY MAKE AND SELL video games to Americans, while THEY claim they do not let their children watch or play VIDEO Games....the same as Chinese Food....they make and bring it in different communities, but you never see them eating the food they serve to the Americans.....ummm make you wanna think about it!
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1-12-2011 @ 2:54PM
jenny said...This is not true. Whites (according to statistics) actually have quadruple rates of suicide than any other races. And also, there are different reasons for suicide. People commit suicide due to depression or just from the pressure that they feel. I agree that being verbally abusive is bad, but not all Asian parents are that way. And we hear downsides of their culture all the time. There was never a "Asians are superior than us in every way." As for criminal pasts, did you even check their background. Like I said, not all of them are like Amy. They could have been raised differently. For example, their families could be really poor making it harder for the parent to spend as much time watching over their children like Amy. As for video games, like I said, every family is different. Not all parents are as strict as Amy or even have as much money as her to support all their lessons/classes. As far as I can see, most of these video games come from Japan(such as PS3 and Nintendo, etc) You can't just take it from one Chinese lady, and apply it to all Asians. And lastly, carry outs; I find it only logical that they do. They sell what sells. WE demand it, they have the abilities to make it. I must say, PF Changs can never measure up to Chinese Carry outs. Chinese people just have different tastes. And I actually have seen them eat food they serve to Americans. i was talking to this one girl about it and she said it was a left over that no one came to pick up. which made me realize that they don't eat it so they can actually make more profit from it. Why eat your supplies? Please think more in depth next time when you reply with things that might offend others.
1-12-2011 @ 3:34PM
MsT said...Amusing that Shellfish posted the same reply twice, with most of the exact same grammatical/punctuation/logic errors in both, even after explaining that the second post is a correction. Yikes! America could obviously use a bit of Chinese attitudes re: basic education.
1-12-2011 @ 6:42PM
jennyPR said...+1 for what MsT said.
It is only a reflex. That is why it is called Shellfish.
1-17-2011 @ 12:32PM
Val said...Each child is different, so perhaps that family does well with rigid structure and rules. Americans are known for ingenuity, creativity, which are factors less evident in many cultures. I prefer instilling a love of learning, joy of success, and an empathy for society. I didn't push my child at all, but reminded her to enjoy many facets of life to excel as a human being. I did insist on respect, good values and gracious manners though. These are not accomplished by 3 hours of compulsory violin or academic perfection.
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1-12-2011 @ 2:25PM
Nina Tam said...I raised my kids the same way. My mom raised me the same way. I am American Born Chinese. We are all successful and happy people... Sorry, but the kids these days lack respect and have a very bad work ethic. American parents molly coddle their kids and are too worried about being PC and not enough about teaching kids respect, right from wrong and working hard. Good for you, Amy.
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1-12-2011 @ 3:31PM
Terry said...If it is so bad here, why are you here Nina Tam? Go back to China, where women are not respected and the standard of living is at poverty level and if you are only allowed one child.
1-12-2011 @ 4:38PM
singlebs said...Amy, you speak in broken English. This is just a suggestion, but maybe you should look in to enrolling in an ESL at your local Community College to improve your English.
1-12-2011 @ 7:39PM
Gregg Lundquist said...Hey Ninatam - you are absolutely correct. There is a sever lacking of a strong family hierachy in this country. Children no longer learn respect, they learn computers, they don't lear to use a pencil and their brains, they use a computer or a calculater and when they do something that deserves punishment, the namby pamby parents today do that whole "break away chair thing" mosly because they are afraid of having the police called on them if they give the brat a well deserved smack. In other words, American parents are delusional and tend to treat their kids like adults (which they aren't that's why the 18 year old birthday dictating an adult in society) and the vast majority of them will grow up not understanding respect for either their elders or even themselves - nope the majority of them grow up with a sense of self entitlement which as we should all agree doesn't work in the real world. So what do you do? maybe take a re-look on how the Chinese raise their kids and have an open mind and realize that the longer we continue treating our children as adults, giving them computers and cars and whatever either entices higher grades, obediance or basically keeps them in line you parents are doing your kids a bigger diservice than you can imagine and it won't be evident to you until the kid is 18 and you guys realize the kid can't cope with society, keep a job or even take care of themselves so what happens they either stay at home (there's that entitlement thing again) or parents have to literally pay off the kid to finally just go away so they won't have to see their failures as adults, failures that obviously the Chinese people prefer to cauterize as children before it's too late, once kids are adults they are cooked, no going back then
1-12-2011 @ 5:52PM
starchamzxj said...Nina Tam is an American Citizen. That is what America is about, different people, different cultures, tolerance and freedom. She is at home, here in America.
I am a person of color with an impeccable education and an MBA from a top 5 school. I am also 3rd generation college educated. Both parents were college educated and grandmother was college educated. My family is full of successful professional people and a few millionaire entrepreneurs.
We have a family education scholarship and we have family by-laws that include having 2 children unless you are in a financial position to care for and raise more. We teach our children about teenage sex and pregnancy and they are scared to come home pregnant. Which is how it should be. Not saying they are not having sex, but if they are, they are not getting pregnant.
We are raising our children to be successful. We do not tolerate disrespect. We discipline numerous ways up to and including spanking (which is not abuse). Parents have high expectations of children and indulge in them when earned. Food, clothing and shelter and payment for your education are what I give you as a parent. Anything beyond that is a privilege and can be taken away until it is earned.
Young people refer to older ones as Mr. or Ms. and parents are not friends with children.
Finally, America needs to understand that our media is censored. Read Foreign Policy magazine and purchase media that is written outside of this country. If China called in all American debts tomorrow, well, you read it for yourselves.
1-12-2011 @ 7:00PM
jennyPR said...well put, starchamzxj.
Terry should be ashamed of her comment. Her ancestors came to this land to look for their dreams just like Nina's ancestors. No doubt this is the best country in the world. But it does not mean everything here is the best. There is always room to improve. Nina is an American Citizen and has every bit of right as Terry has. Sadly Terry thinks she is more entitled than Nina.
1-24-2011 @ 10:20AM
Jay W said..."Terry said...
If it is so bad here, why are you here Nina Tam? Go back to China, where women are not respected and the standard of living is at poverty level and if you are only allowed one child."
Why must she go back to China when she was born here? Oh, I get it, because she has a Chinese name!!! Now, tell me this, is it true that racist people sleep with their cousins? Do you?
"singlebs said...
Amy, you speak in broken English. This is just a suggestion, but maybe you should look in to enrolling in an ESL at your local Community College to improve your English."
Ooh, who let the grammar Nazis out? And how do you know she "speaks" in broken English? Have you ever talked to her in real life? Oh, I get it, you meant to write that "Amy, you write* in broken English," right? If that is the case, then at least use the correct verb, Mr. Grammaticus. And even if she writes in bad English, why did you assume that she needs to go to ESL (English as Second Language)? Maybe she is just not a very good writer? Oh, I get it, she cannot possibly be speaking English as a first language because of her last name, right? Tell me, do you sleep with your cousins, as well?
1-12-2011 @ 2:27PM
kittylit said...I'll bet her children are well-behaved and not a horror to be around like most "Western" children. Parents who worry about the children's self-esteem or who want to be their friends are doing thm harm. Children need boundaries, consistency and discipline. We're raising a generation of mediocre kids who will become spineless, spoiled, inept adults.
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1-12-2011 @ 3:31PM
Terry said...Having lived in an Asian culture, I can tell you Asain children are extremely rude and not well-behaved at all. Look around you in any public place and you will see Asian children running around and not minding their parents at all.
1-12-2011 @ 7:04PM
jennyPR said...Terry, I think you are very confused. The opposite is much more close to truth.
1-12-2011 @ 2:35PM
Peggy said...Saw this woman hawking her book on the Today Show yesterday. She had no defense for most of the questions she was asked. Some of her methods could be called child abuse, and if she had been reported, Child Protective Services would have stepped in. Her own husband disagrees with her parenting style. Just another attempt to make money from those American parents who don't trust that their own parenting skills are good enough. You couldn't switch to her way midstream anyway - you would have to use her methods from the day the child was born. No one should buy this book or give her any credence.
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1-12-2011 @ 2:37PM
Bobby Dee said...There's no denying that orientals do better in school and test with slightly higher IQs than non-Jewish whites. At least on the grades front, cutting TV time, not letting the kids have a car, and not letting them have an after-school job seems to be the magic trick.
Of course, most whites are too weak-willed to follow such a course of action and will now commence to whining about how the kid needs a car, needs a job, and should be allowed to watch music videos of black ex-cons pulling on their penises.
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