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Was I Right to Change My Daughter's School Because of Bullying?
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Dear AdviceMama,
What do you do when your child is being bullied by a group of children at school? I went to the vice principal, the counselor and the mediator and got no results, so I moved my daughter to a different school. Was that the right thing to do? She is a high school senior.
Signed,
Mom of a Bullied Kid
Dear Bullied,
Every day, approximately 160,000 children stay home from school in this country because they are afraid of being bullied, according to the National Center for Educational Statistics. A study in the Journal of the American Medical Association reported that more than 3.2 million children are victims of moderate or serious bullying every year.
As a parent, our instinct is to protect our children. When your daughter was being bullied, you tried to make it stop, and when it didn't, you did what you felt was necessary to keep her safe.
Without knowing more, I cannot say whether it was the "right" thing to do. Changing schools as a high school senior isn't ideal for many reasons. But it sounds like you did what you had to do to prevent further harm to your daughter, which means you didn't simply hide your head in the sand or tell her to "ignore the bullies," as if that alone would make it stop.
Bullying is a serious issue, but simply discussing it in the press or at PTA meetings doesn't mean that it is being adequately handled. In my counseling practice, I routinely see children and teens who are being bullied at school and in cyber-space, with devastating impact.
What seems to be most effective is an integrated school program that brings students together in small groups where open discussions between kids from varying social groups are moderated, and conflict resolution skills are taught. One such program is nobully.com. (Please note: I have no direct experience with this program and cannot personally recommend it, but the approach seems well thought out.)
In a structured forum where every participant is heard, kids have the chance to develop genuine empathy for one another by recognizing the emotional impact of teasing, taunting and tormenting, which is essential to stopping the behavior at its root. These programs seem to be far more successful than simply punishing bullies, or having school-wide assemblies once a year that do little to eradicate the problem.
Children who are bullied can suffer from low self-esteem, anxiety, shame and depression. I hope your daughter is doing well at her new school, but keep in mind that while she may now be free of the bullying behavior, it is important that she have the chance to process the painful feelings that resulted from being targeted at her prior school.
Yours in parenting support,
AdviceMama
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What do you do when your child is being bullied by a group of children at school? I went to the vice principal, the counselor and the mediator and got no results, so I moved my daughter to a different school. Was that the right thing to do? She is a high school senior.
Signed,
Mom of a Bullied Kid
Dear Bullied,
Every day, approximately 160,000 children stay home from school in this country because they are afraid of being bullied, according to the National Center for Educational Statistics. A study in the Journal of the American Medical Association reported that more than 3.2 million children are victims of moderate or serious bullying every year.
As a parent, our instinct is to protect our children. When your daughter was being bullied, you tried to make it stop, and when it didn't, you did what you felt was necessary to keep her safe.
Without knowing more, I cannot say whether it was the "right" thing to do. Changing schools as a high school senior isn't ideal for many reasons. But it sounds like you did what you had to do to prevent further harm to your daughter, which means you didn't simply hide your head in the sand or tell her to "ignore the bullies," as if that alone would make it stop.
Bullying is a serious issue, but simply discussing it in the press or at PTA meetings doesn't mean that it is being adequately handled. In my counseling practice, I routinely see children and teens who are being bullied at school and in cyber-space, with devastating impact.
What seems to be most effective is an integrated school program that brings students together in small groups where open discussions between kids from varying social groups are moderated, and conflict resolution skills are taught. One such program is nobully.com. (Please note: I have no direct experience with this program and cannot personally recommend it, but the approach seems well thought out.)
In a structured forum where every participant is heard, kids have the chance to develop genuine empathy for one another by recognizing the emotional impact of teasing, taunting and tormenting, which is essential to stopping the behavior at its root. These programs seem to be far more successful than simply punishing bullies, or having school-wide assemblies once a year that do little to eradicate the problem.
Children who are bullied can suffer from low self-esteem, anxiety, shame and depression. I hope your daughter is doing well at her new school, but keep in mind that while she may now be free of the bullying behavior, it is important that she have the chance to process the painful feelings that resulted from being targeted at her prior school.
Yours in parenting support,
AdviceMama
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AdviceMama, Susan Stiffelman, is a licensed and practicing psychotherapist and marriage and family therapist. She holds a Bachelor of Arts in developmental psychology and a Master of Arts in clinical psychology. Her book, Parenting Without Power Struggles, is available on Amazon. Sign up to get Susan's free parenting newsletter.
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ReaderComments (Page 2 of 16)
1-23-2011 @ 7:24PM
GetReal said...Great answer!
The article stated "Every day, approximately 160,000 children stay home from school in this country because they are afraid of being bullied..." CLEARLY, this means that some parents aren't listening and many, many school officials aren't being made to take this seriously.
An attorney who truly believes in this cause is definately the way to go. CRIMES are being committed (menacing, assault, battery, etc.)
and the school, police force, etc. need to treat these crimes for what they are.
Also, we need to get to the bottom of why each bully is acting out.
SOME have been bullied, assaulted and molested, and are thus demonstrating a symptom of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. I say this because for the first four years of elementary school, my grandson was a target for bullies. Then he was molested, cut and threatened by a man... Now he has full-blown PTSD and has become a bully, himself.
Tyler Perry, talking on Oprah about being molested and abused as a child, said that he reached the point where he just wanted to make everyone around him as miserable as he was...
Regardless, menacing, assault and battery are CRIMES, and should face the full force of the legal system.
1-23-2011 @ 7:40PM
James said..."I told them that if their daughter continue to bully mine, I would seek an order of protection against her, I would sue for intentional infliction of emotional distress on behalf of my daughter, I would send a copy of the lawsuit and allegations to all the of the colleges in the 4 state area identifying their daughter in order to derail her access to college. I also told them that since I would be representing my daughter, it would not cost us anything but that I would make sure I drained their life savings to defend her (other attorneys in the area would charge $250 an hour to represent them) and if I got a judgment against their daughter I would ruin her credit and prevent her from getting loans, etc. . . "
So you responded to their bullying, by bullying them?
Oh, that sets a simply SPLENDID example!
...hypocrite...
1-23-2011 @ 9:07PM
Mary said...I think that is a great idea. I was bullied in school and when my daughters were in school I was determined they would not suffer the same. When my youngest daughter was bullied, by a group of girls in junior high, the principle and vice principle did not take it serious. I was furious so my sister and I went to the board of education and made a big deal out of it. The principle and vice principle were not happy I did this, but they called the parents of the bullying girls and had conferences with them about it. It stopped but if it hadn't I would got up to the highest level or pursued other avenues.
1-24-2011 @ 1:25AM
Monroe said...From my experience the problem with Bullying is the parents of the bullies want to protect their children and do not want to see the truth. They will tooth and nair protect there children even if they are wrong. Believing the tissue lies of there children over the solid truth provided them from outside sources that are more reliable. Bulling can take many forms from beating you up to a slow over time humiliating you in small ways to make the bullies feel better about themselves. But from what I can see the key is for the parents of the Bullies to dig there heads out of the sand and tell there children to stop it or else. I had a Bullie incedent happen when I was about 12 or 13 years old that I was able to fix in a way I'm not to proud of now. I lived out in the country and had to ride the bus a hour every day to school and a hour from school every day. And every day a set of twin girls that lived up the road about a mile from me would tease and taunt me, everyday they even recruited other people on the bus to treat me badly. Remember I was only about 13. This was about 1980 and the teck age was not what it is today so I was so resentfull I took up a campain of calling there house and hanging up over and over again. I did it so bad that their parents put a trace on there phone. When they finally caught me and found out it was a 13 year old boy they had to ask themselves why would I do that. After that I never heard anything else about it and the girls left me alone. Because the parents out of self intrest told there kids to leave me alone. I could have never told their parents how they were treating me and got any results and my mother could have never been able to convince the school system I was being mistreated because it might have interfered with the other childrens rights. A gang of lieing children seems to have more rights than the victom until proven otherwise and when children get angry and retaliate by hitting the abuser they are treated as the guilty and punished even if the other child deserved it. Which makes the abuser even more empowered to continue their Bulling of other children. So your suggestion to have a Lawyer send a official letter to the school might work but its not the schools responsibility to control your children its the parents and as long as they are allowed to remain in lala land and stick there head in the sand and pretend their children are angels nothing will ever change. The fact you have to threaten the parents to teach their children after the fact to be fair to everyone means there will always be Bullies. If I rob a store once I go to jail, If I beat up a little old lady once I go to jail, If I park in front of a neighbors driveway just once I get a ticket, If I drive with out insurance and get caught once I can lose my licence. In almost all laws there is only once without consequences but with Bulling unless you really hit the parents hard there is a 2nd chance, a 3rd chance, a 4th chance, and so on until they have affected many children for the rest of there lives. Part of being a parent is teaching your children right and wrong but if there is no negative for not doing your chosen job of raising a child then there will always be Bullies to terrorize your children.
1-23-2011 @ 2:20PM
gw said...You were absolutely, 100% right!!!! Keep encouraging your daughter, and keep giving her the proper tools to rise above it. Let her know that it's not her fault. Teach her ways to feel good, and make yourself available.....do everything in small steps...and know that sometimes change and starting over is the only way. Everyone deserves a new chance without labels. Good for you...you are a hero and a terrific mother in my book!!!!
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1-23-2011 @ 2:18PM
Joe said...There are always the people who say "yes, everyone gets bullied, what's the big deal?" True, everyone puts up with it to some degree, but most kids have a good support structure in place to deal with it. There are always those awkward kids who never fit in and they are usually targeted for excessive torment. When it gets to the point where nothing can be done to increase the child's daily survival on campus, then yes, you need to move schools. Reputations and attitudes won't die overnight, and for the sake of the child, a new environment is needed. With that said, simply changing schools won't solve the problem. The child who has been targeted for excessive bullying needs counseling and life training. There are behaviors and patterns deeply ingrained into this individuals life that makes him or her an easy mark. It has to be done, or the pattern will never change. As for those of you who say "well everyone deals with it" you have never dealt with it on a severe level. It's not an issue of toughening up, it's not survival of the fittest, it's the simple fact that a child can't learn in school because they are more worried about not getting tormented and beaten by their classmates. As for "sticking up for yourself" -- a one on one problem is one issue, but a one on five problem? One on ten? That's too much for anyone to handle, and that's how these cases often are.
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1-23-2011 @ 2:34PM
Bill Fitzpatrick said...BEST ADVICE I HAVE SEEN , HOPE PEOPLE TAKE IT TO HEART
1-24-2011 @ 2:19PM
Lumpy said...I took karate as an adult and it really helped my self-esteem. I would be a better person if I had had some counseling to improve my confidence as a child.
1-23-2011 @ 6:21PM
J23 said...I of the best responses I've heard so far and I agree with you 100% and I totally understand where you are coming from.
1-23-2011 @ 9:51PM
redconvoy said...Thank you for saying that. School should be an institution for learning and to feel safe. Not that students have to have their educations sacrificed because they are afraid of their tormentors everyday. The problem is is that the educators and the people in charge tend to favor the bullies for some reason. I have been through the bullying in my life and I got in trouble for defending myself. So the principal's message to me was that you will get in trouble if you defend yourself.
1-23-2011 @ 2:24PM
eric said...Put your kids in a karate/self-defense class. After exhausting the several avenues of curtailing a bully, violence has it's merits. When nothing else gets through a child has a right to defend themself, physically is necessary. Some are going to give the old BS of violence begets violence. Not if you do it right it doesn't. I'd rather my child's tormentor had a black eye rather than my child suffer pshycological, emotional and physical distress. Life provides plenty of untasteful realities without a bully bringing more. Wollop the little miscreant into submission when all else fails, and all else tends to fail regulaly.
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1-23-2011 @ 3:21PM
Tom said...Agree.
Self defense training has much to recommend it. First, it will likely prevent the child from being hurt in the event he/she is physically attacked. Second, the child will radiate confidence that will prevent both physical and verbal attack. Finally, it will likely be the beginning of a lifetime pursuit of fitness and with the proper instruction respect for others.
1-23-2011 @ 2:55PM
Mi said...+1. Been bullied around from grade school until sophmore year in HS. Best way to stop a bully is to beat the hell out of them. They dont expect their targets to fight back and when they do, bullies run like cowards.
In HS I had a couple of the football players in HS who used to push me around and throw my books into the hall. Repeated complaints to the coaches didnt help. District didnt want to get involved. The asst coach just thought it was "playful harmless fun" for his players until a 5'5" 140lb sophmore dropped one of his 6'2" 220lb linemen with 2 shots. Front snap kick to the groin and a spin hook to the head when he was doubled over. Never was bullied again throughout school.
1-23-2011 @ 4:54PM
scoobe2 said...when i was a kid in kindergarten i was bullied by a much older girl. i wore glasses and leg braces and was one a few minority kids. i got so fed up i filled my backpack with matchbox cars and when she started with me i whacked her with it. never bothered me again. its like a prison mentality, beat someone up or be their b*tch
1-23-2011 @ 5:21PM
jackgrenan said...Ever hear of playground justice? It does work as does a big brother! I assist families who have a child commit suicide after being bullied including a few who have followed every suggestion that has been offered here. Sometimes learning to stick up for yourself and having backup is the best way. I had a son who was over weight and teased all the time in elementary school. He finally had enough and took the boy on. My son was suspended as was the bully. I rewarded my son for sticking up for himself . My son and the bully became friends after that. He was never bullied again and stood up to and stopped other bullies.
You are responsible for protecting your own child. It is your choice no matter what other opinions others have. Do what works! No excuses no more suicides! Stop the Bullying!
1-23-2011 @ 5:59PM
barb said...Eric you absolutely on target. That's what we did for my granddaughter and it worked for her because she felt better about herself and stronger to deal with the bullying which then stops because these bullying brats pick on weakness.
1-23-2011 @ 2:28PM
What?! said...The school unable to help her is very wrong. Remember the Virginia Tech massacre? That is how it happened. The school are f-king stupid. Fire all the administration employees. End of story. Oh, I used to beat up many bullies for other weaker victims. Too bad I could not be there for her.
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1-23-2011 @ 3:00PM
Laura said...I agree that a self defense course, such as karate, can be beneficial in building self-esteem. Confident people are less likely to be targeted. However, teaching someone a martial art just so that person can beat the you know what out of people he/she doesn't like is not a route I would suggest. If she fights on campus, then she needs to be prepared to deal with the consequences of fighting, such as suspension from school and a criminal record.
1-23-2011 @ 4:01PM
Henry said...What: Virginia Tech massacre had nothing to do bullying. Virginia Tech massacre was one mentally ill person doing killings. It was Columbine High School massacre where bullying was involved. The 2 killers said they were bullied.
1-23-2011 @ 6:36PM
Rich said...Suspension from a school the kid doesn't want to be in in the first place ? That's not a "consequence" - it's a win-win for the kid being bullied.