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Act up in class, read about it in tomorrow's teacher blog. Illustration by Dori Hartley
Blogging About Your Students Is Not a Fireable Offense
by Amy Hatch
After venting about her students online, a teacher could be expelled from her job.
Natalie Munroe was escorted out of Central Bucks East High School last week after some students discovered what Munroe thought was a private blog.
The teacher says she never thought to protect her website with a password -- after all, her only readers were friends and family, and the majority of her posts dealt with her private life. But a brief series of personal essays on the state of education and her high school English students set the suburban Philadelphia school abuzz last week.
In her posts, Munroe frequently used profanity and suggested that some of her students dressed like street-walkers, over-estimated their intellectual prowess, and called them "rat-like" and "rude, lazy, disengaged whiners."
Now, Munroe is in danger of being fired for publishing her opinions online, PhillyBurbs.com reports, despite the fact that her lawyer, Steve Rovner, tells the news organization the Central Bucks school district does not have an "Internet policy."
Firing Munroe would be wrong, plain and simple.
Was what she did naive? Yes. The Internet is a public forum, after all. Was it indiscreet? Perhaps. But was it against the law? No.
What Munroe did, in fact, was her fundamental right as a United States citizen. She exercised her First Amendment right to express any opinion, no matter how unpopular, unpleasant or vile.
The Internet has opened a whole new frontier when it comes to the public expression of our opinions. Self-publishing has given rise to a whole new generation of voices, voices that otherwise may have never been heard. Voices that would have been otherwise disenfranchised. Voices that brought into the sunlight issues that were previously buried in the dark.
Take Heather Armstrong, another blogger who was fired for sharing her opinions about her employer on her uber-popular blog "Dooce."
Armstrong also used her blog as a forum to write about her private battle with depression, which landed her in the hospital for several days when her daughter was just an infant. Her willingness to open up about that experience helped raise the profile of clinical and post-partum depression, especially among the population that often experiences it -- mothers.
As a parent, I completely understand the instinct toward outrage. Would I be furious if a teacher insulted my child in a public online forum? You bet your bippy I would.
But as a journalist who makes her living from writing online, I shudder at the thought that Munroe might be terminated from her job for expressing her personal opinions on her personal blog.
And, let's be frank: Our educational system really is in crisis. Why is it so terrible that someone who sees it from the trenches should share her concerns and questions, profanity and acerbic commentary aside?
If Munroe is fired, a dangerous precedent will be set. The Internet is a powerful medium, one that certainly has its dark corners, but also one that has the potential to create conversations about subjects that affect us in the most fundamental ways.
Silencing those voices? Now, that would be worthy of expulsion.
A Lesson for Blogging Teachers: Actions Have Consequences
by Jessica Samakow
We see it again and again. An Internet scandal erupts and it's always the same defense: "I didn't think anyone would see it."
From teen sexters to Congressmen posting their pictures on Craigslist, the guilty parties all play the victim, acting surprised when their dirty laundry is aired across the Web.
Now, high school teacher Natalie Munroe could lose her job for negatively blogging about her students. Following the pattern of those under fire before her, she says "her blog was never meant to be widely read," USA Today reports.
OK, so maybe she didn't intend for her students to discover her blog, but that's simply not a viable defense. If something is posted on the Web, someone will find it.
High school teachers and counselors often remind teens how powerful the Internet is, noting that colleges now evaluate not only formal applications, but a student's online presence, as well. The general rule they tell teens: Don't post anything on the Internet you wouldn't want the world to see or read.
And, now that a Google search can be performed from your cell phone and Facebook is so easily accessible, this advice is both crucial and obvious. So, then, if teens are expected to take certain precautions on the Web, why shouldn't their teachers be held to the same standard?
This isn't a matter of free speech. True, we can say what we want in this country, but that doesn't mean we don't have to face consequences. A teen who rants on Facebook about how many shots of tequila she consumed last Saturday night deserves to get busted by her parents. An employee who tweets about his evil dictator of a boss will likely get reprimanded, if not fired.
And a teacher who blogs that her students "dress like streetwalkers" and have an "unrealistically high perception of (their) own ability level" should be penalized, as well.
Students tend to be intrigued with the lives of their teachers outside of school. Running into a teacher at the movie theater is like an out-of-body experience; shouldn't they be at home grading papers?!
Today's teachers probably felt the same way when they were in high school, but, instead of chance run-ins at the grocery store, students can just go to Google to learn more about their educators.
Munroe argues that her blog was not "stumbled upon" by students; it was "dug up." How it was discovered, however, is irrelevant. What matters is that it was found.
Look, I get that a frustrated teacher might turn to writing as an outlet to complain about her bratty high school students. But why not keep a journal? Or privately e-mail her closest friends? Posting it on a live blog, even with minimal subscribers, is just foolish.
In a recent post, Monroe defends her actions: "Contrary to what seems to be popular belief, I didn't -- and don't -- feel negatively toward all students. As I mentioned in another blog that nobody chooses to talk about, there were delightful students in school, too."
And while the so-called "delightful" students may appreciate her remarks, that doesn't make up for what was said about the not-so-delightful ones. I don't classify myself as being overly sensitive, but I would feel extremely uncomfortable being in a classroom and knowing my teacher pegged me as "rat-like" or "frightfully dim."
The students who were called these names deserve better.
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ReaderComments (Page 2 of 12)
2-15-2011 @ 6:09PM
Jezzika said...Let me guess... you're one of the "whiners" she was talking about? You're offended because you're an indestructable teenager and you don't quite understand why you get in trouble for acting out. When you're, well, your age, you think you're right all the time. Today's teens also, from what I've personally seen, are rude, disrespectful and obnoxious. As long as the teacher did not mention any names, I see no problem here. Sure, she could have used a penname to better hide these posts that were supposed to be private, and yes, password protecting her page would have been better as well. However, if parents would learn to not be afraid of their kids "hating" them and learn to be a little less sensitive (everyone has opinions, get over it), and actually teach their kids to be respectful and polite and teach them to listen to their teachers and not talk back or make nasty comments in class, maybe this teacher wouldn't have to find a way to vent about the unnecessary behaviors going on during her class. Come on people... you're getting upset because this teacher said something negative about your brats... errr... little angels... that are misbehaving and causing greif for her? Really? So much for preparing them for all the judgment they'll face in the adult world. Get a backbone, really.
2-15-2011 @ 7:18PM
LSULinebacker64 said...It's hard to describe my thoughts without disturbing someone elses thoughts to badly. It's always something.... It would be fine once again IF again IF one didn't pick up their thoughts on what someone else was doing at one time. If they would have let it be and left it alone, all would be still, calm and normal now. No Bother!
2-15-2011 @ 7:18PM
Cheryl said...How rude! You have every right to be offended. I definitely don't think teachers have the right to say nasty things about their students no matter what. It's just not professional. Vent to a friend in a personal message or email. Don't possibly humiliate your students by publicly posting things about them. It doesn't matter that it didn't mention their names. If you think you're going to get and only want the "good" students, find another profession. You are there to "serve" all students no matter how likeable they are. If you look close enough, beneath the surface, they aren't so bad at all. They are people, too and deserve to be treated as such.
2-15-2011 @ 8:02PM
phil said...Drew, you were right to feel offended by the juvenile actions of one of your instructors. I am certain that this story involved a public school, as it would be considered a no-brainer to bounce a teacher who publicly exhibits such poor judgment. As it stands, this instructor has hired a lawyer, who must be opposed by a school board lawyer, whose bill is paid by your taxes. Remember..."your childs education is too important to be left in the hands the government."
2-15-2011 @ 7:48PM
Willie McMillie said...Eh Drew - "Offended" ?
Why because her comments were an accurate depiction
of student behavior? She's not there to be abused. Somehow I figured students attended school to learn - not be butt holes.
I saw her interview - she came off bitchy, so if no names were used,
what's the problem?
Now she's going to initiate legal action - too much drama.
2-15-2011 @ 7:48PM
Kate said...She should have told these kids this stuff to their face, without the profanity. Just remain matter of fact and give them a crummy grade.
2-15-2011 @ 8:31PM
citygirlretired said...Offended?? You should have been thankful someone was caring enough about her students she was at least SEEING there were issues and talking them out with her FRIENDS.. not some D.A** who thinks S/He is clever. Too many kids are getting away with murder because the ACLU and other freek outfits are suing your parents for PARENTING> Get a life. Grow up, Amount to Something. Contribute meaningfully to society.
Look around you - do you see anything there that would entice me to pay 90-100K a year for?? We old fogeys still control some pretty hefty purse strings... think about it ...
2-15-2011 @ 8:35PM
mcguich said...An accurate depiction of student behavior??? Rat like? That's accurate? Yes, students can be rude. Adults can be rude, too. That's normally where the students get it from. The way people, in general, talk to each other is terrible! It's no wonder where our students get it from. They learn it at home, on the internet and from teachers who don't know how to set a good example.
2-15-2011 @ 10:28PM
karen said...I'm thinking that if a student recognizes him or herself as the subject of a remark about dressing like a streetwalker, then..
A. The shoe fits.
B. He or she is proud to express his or her individuality with that wardrobe
C. Both A & B
2-15-2011 @ 10:12PM
jw said...Well dude, ARE you one of the *****? You must know that most of the vermin your age ARE. If you jerkwads showed some respect to others you would not be IN that blog! Grow up and grow a pair and become what your parents are not raising, a responsible, respectful member of the human race!
2-18-2011 @ 11:10AM
Mcguich said...Thank you JW for setting such a fine example
2-15-2011 @ 3:35PM
Cassie said...SHE sounds like the whiner and is definitely in the wrong profession! You have to watch all entries you make every step of the way when adding info anywhere online. It can catch up with you. If it regarded my child in the blog, you'd better believe we'd be meeting together in the principal's pronto!
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2-15-2011 @ 5:42PM
Lynda said...r u kidding me! if his behavior happened in my classroom you and your child would be in the principals office pronto. Most teachers feel this way because there is a profound lack of respect from most students - even in the lower grades and those parents blame it on the teachers. Since when is it the teachers job to correct disrespectful behavior - last time I checked teachers were hired to teach, not raise your friggin kid!!!
2-16-2011 @ 12:57PM
xy_60613 said...Cassie, no names was mentioned in the blog so you would not know if it was your child.
and if names were mentioned and what was mentioned is true about your child, then you need to evaluate first your parenting style rather than taking it out on the messenger. take ownership on being a lousy parent for once and do some to correct it.
2-15-2011 @ 3:40PM
adgirl said...Look, I'm all for venting and First Amendment rights and all that, but let's face it: what this teacher did was ultimately undermine her professionalism.
I wouldn't see a doctor who bitched about his patients online or an accountant who did the same about his clients. Would you???
So if you're going to vent about your job on a blog, and be nasty about it, at least have the brains to use a pseudonym. Lesson learned.
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2-15-2011 @ 5:06PM
Bri said...You do have a point about using a pseudonym, but how easy would it be for someone else to create a blog using a fake name--e.i. your name. If we tell people to use fake names, who's to say that someone won't use your name and get you into trouble? I think that if this school tries to fire this teacher, they would have a hard time fighting this battle. All the teacher has to do is say, "That's not mine! Someone is using my name!" Anyone can set up an email account with any name they want--teaching people to provide fake information may very well lead to more trouble for others.
2-15-2011 @ 5:11PM
jcole72722 said...This woman did NOT list her name, school, or any of her students names. One of the schools students had (I don't think this is the correct terminology) "tracked her blog" back to her. I believe that since she took such pains to hide her identity that to snoop into the account was wrong. If you tell someone something in private and someone else overhears and repeats the private conversation, is that right? Of course not. This woman was just venting.
2-15-2011 @ 3:42PM
Melly said...It all comes down to respect. She doesn't respect her students or parents and cannot expect respect in return. When did being an adult and setting a good example become obsolete. I wouldn't want this person as a teacher for any of my children.
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2-15-2011 @ 4:00PM
ntimprssd said...I agree. This individual exhibited a total lack of respect for her position as an educator and her students and their families. It appears the bar is set very low when it comes to the character of some we trust to educate our children.
2-15-2011 @ 5:41PM
old enough to remember said...It most likely is that the students and their parents do not respect teachers. Too many parents do not support education and blame the teachers (you sound like one of those people!). I can understand the teacher's frustation with her students who are more interested in looking sexy to the opposite sex. They do not care about getting an education to help them survive in the world when they get out of school. This is true in both poor urban districts and in upscale suburban districts.