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Blogging About Your Students Is Not a Fireable Offense
by Amy Hatch
After venting about her students online, a teacher could be expelled from her job.
Natalie Munroe was escorted out of Central Bucks East High School last week after some students discovered what Munroe thought was a private blog.
The teacher says she never thought to protect her website with a password -- after all, her only readers were friends and family, and the majority of her posts dealt with her private life. But a brief series of personal essays on the state of education and her high school English students set the suburban Philadelphia school abuzz last week.
In her posts, Munroe frequently used profanity and suggested that some of her students dressed like street-walkers, over-estimated their intellectual prowess, and called them "rat-like" and "rude, lazy, disengaged whiners."
Now, Munroe is in danger of being fired for publishing her opinions online, PhillyBurbs.com reports, despite the fact that her lawyer, Steve Rovner, tells the news organization the Central Bucks school district does not have an "Internet policy."
Firing Munroe would be wrong, plain and simple.
Was what she did naive? Yes. The Internet is a public forum, after all. Was it indiscreet? Perhaps. But was it against the law? No.
What Munroe did, in fact, was her fundamental right as a United States citizen. She exercised her First Amendment right to express any opinion, no matter how unpopular, unpleasant or vile.
The Internet has opened a whole new frontier when it comes to the public expression of our opinions. Self-publishing has given rise to a whole new generation of voices, voices that otherwise may have never been heard. Voices that would have been otherwise disenfranchised. Voices that brought into the sunlight issues that were previously buried in the dark.
Take Heather Armstrong, another blogger who was fired for sharing her opinions about her employer on her uber-popular blog "Dooce."
Armstrong also used her blog as a forum to write about her private battle with depression, which landed her in the hospital for several days when her daughter was just an infant. Her willingness to open up about that experience helped raise the profile of clinical and post-partum depression, especially among the population that often experiences it -- mothers.
As a parent, I completely understand the instinct toward outrage. Would I be furious if a teacher insulted my child in a public online forum? You bet your bippy I would.
But as a journalist who makes her living from writing online, I shudder at the thought that Munroe might be terminated from her job for expressing her personal opinions on her personal blog.
And, let's be frank: Our educational system really is in crisis. Why is it so terrible that someone who sees it from the trenches should share her concerns and questions, profanity and acerbic commentary aside?
If Munroe is fired, a dangerous precedent will be set. The Internet is a powerful medium, one that certainly has its dark corners, but also one that has the potential to create conversations about subjects that affect us in the most fundamental ways.
Silencing those voices? Now, that would be worthy of expulsion.
A Lesson for Blogging Teachers: Actions Have Consequences
by Jessica Samakow
We see it again and again. An Internet scandal erupts and it's always the same defense: "I didn't think anyone would see it."
From teen sexters to Congressmen posting their pictures on Craigslist, the guilty parties all play the victim, acting surprised when their dirty laundry is aired across the Web.
Now, high school teacher Natalie Munroe could lose her job for negatively blogging about her students. Following the pattern of those under fire before her, she says "her blog was never meant to be widely read," USA Today reports.
OK, so maybe she didn't intend for her students to discover her blog, but that's simply not a viable defense. If something is posted on the Web, someone will find it.
High school teachers and counselors often remind teens how powerful the Internet is, noting that colleges now evaluate not only formal applications, but a student's online presence, as well. The general rule they tell teens: Don't post anything on the Internet you wouldn't want the world to see or read.
And, now that a Google search can be performed from your cell phone and Facebook is so easily accessible, this advice is both crucial and obvious. So, then, if teens are expected to take certain precautions on the Web, why shouldn't their teachers be held to the same standard?
This isn't a matter of free speech. True, we can say what we want in this country, but that doesn't mean we don't have to face consequences. A teen who rants on Facebook about how many shots of tequila she consumed last Saturday night deserves to get busted by her parents. An employee who tweets about his evil dictator of a boss will likely get reprimanded, if not fired.
And a teacher who blogs that her students "dress like streetwalkers" and have an "unrealistically high perception of (their) own ability level" should be penalized, as well.
Students tend to be intrigued with the lives of their teachers outside of school. Running into a teacher at the movie theater is like an out-of-body experience; shouldn't they be at home grading papers?!
Today's teachers probably felt the same way when they were in high school, but, instead of chance run-ins at the grocery store, students can just go to Google to learn more about their educators.
Munroe argues that her blog was not "stumbled upon" by students; it was "dug up." How it was discovered, however, is irrelevant. What matters is that it was found.
Look, I get that a frustrated teacher might turn to writing as an outlet to complain about her bratty high school students. But why not keep a journal? Or privately e-mail her closest friends? Posting it on a live blog, even with minimal subscribers, is just foolish.
In a recent post, Monroe defends her actions: "Contrary to what seems to be popular belief, I didn't -- and don't -- feel negatively toward all students. As I mentioned in another blog that nobody chooses to talk about, there were delightful students in school, too."
And while the so-called "delightful" students may appreciate her remarks, that doesn't make up for what was said about the not-so-delightful ones. I don't classify myself as being overly sensitive, but I would feel extremely uncomfortable being in a classroom and knowing my teacher pegged me as "rat-like" or "frightfully dim."
The students who were called these names deserve better.
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ReaderComments (Page 3 of 12)
2-15-2011 @ 5:59PM
SS said...What happen to students respecting teachers or their elders or authority figures??? Parents are not teaching their children basic respect to start with, and you expect a teacher to not need to vent at the end of a day when they have spent the entire day being disrespected by the majority of students? and no support from the parents who can't even be bothered to attend parent teacher conferences......teaching children is supposed to start at home and be augmented by the schools, most parents these days expect to have everyone else but themselves teach their children! If she, in fact, did not use specific names or specfically identify any individuals, she should not be fired. These people need to put their energy into fixing a failing educational system instead of whining about people venting their frustrations.
2-15-2011 @ 3:44PM
btlenut said...Free speech means that the government can't restrict your speech. It doesn't mean that you can't be fired for doing something as stupid and thoughtless and inconsistent with the job duties that this teacher did.
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2-15-2011 @ 8:41PM
Cynthia said...The school is not the government. They are an employer. They have the right to dismiss an employee for cause. They are not putting the teacher in jail for breaking the law. She is losing her job.
2-15-2011 @ 3:44PM
Kat said...This teacher sounds like a very immature and hateful woman. If she doesn't like kids then she has no business being a teacher.
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2-15-2011 @ 3:47PM
Cheryl said...Recently, a student was blogging about a teacher. That student NAMED the teacher and the kid got suspended. Well, the good old ACLU stepped in and got the kid un-suspended. So....I guess we are teaching our children that they can bad mouth a teacher and NAME that teacher but teachers can't generally vent about their students. Sounds fair.....NOT.
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2-15-2011 @ 3:47PM
mike hylton said...Oh my gosh she had the ball's to write what the parents are to blind to see and what the students are to stupid to realize, and funniest of all is she probably hurt the self esteem of some of these stupid uninterested kids,, how will they ever live knowing the truth about them self's lol,, way to go teach we need more like you,,
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2-15-2011 @ 4:04PM
Kat said...I'm glad you can relate mikie!
2-15-2011 @ 3:48PM
Jeff said...If it regarded your child maybe you should take a better look at your child. Is your child dressing like a street walker to go to school? Is your child acting out in school? Maybe you are failing as a parent by not connecting with your child and teaching them morals at home. The teacher isn't the only one to blame here. Where are these children learning to behave this way? If parents took some responsibility for their children for a change maybe the brats wouldn't be so rat like and dressing bad and start acting civilized for a change. Stop blaming the teachers for everything.
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2-15-2011 @ 3:51PM
Professor Fate said...I am constantly amazed at people who are dumb enough to post stuff on the internet and then are surprised that someone whom they did not want to read it did, in fact, read it. Still and all, she did not call the students by name so she should not be suspended or punished. Or have we abolished the First Amendment completely?
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2-15-2011 @ 3:53PM
Lightenup said...How would anyone know who she was talking about?? She didn't mention any names.
And if you can guess by her description of you or your child, then YOU need to worry about YOU or YOUR CHILD.
**Newsflash** Teachers don't like all of their students. They are not required to and it would be impossible to do so. So many students are rude, disrespectful, lazy, etc. Would you like them (if they weren't yours)? NOPE
My opinion is she needs to be more discreet, but she shouldn't be fired behind this--especially since there is no written, signed policy in her manual.
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2-15-2011 @ 7:03PM
wydani said...As long as the teacher didn't list specific names, I think she has every right to blog about anything she wants. I am not a teacher but I do agree that this younger generation feels too entitled. They are not as savvy or as smart as they think they are. Get a life and learn that the 1st amendment gives us the right to blog about whatever we want.
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2-15-2011 @ 3:55PM
Puppie said...She was pretty stupid.....
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2-15-2011 @ 3:56PM
Mark said...Stop letting your kids dress like streetwalkers and teach them some manners and there will be nothing to blog about... PARENTS need to step up and accept resposibility for your children's actions, outfits and attitudes. YOU ARE THE ONES WHO RAISED THEM THAT WAY. Don't get mad because a teacher points out your faults as parents.
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2-15-2011 @ 3:56PM
jaywest said...She should stop, as soon as all of the syudents stop. What's good for the goose.....
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2-15-2011 @ 4:02PM
loli said...I wouldn't for free speech. I'd fire her for being a bad teacher. Our job as teachers is largely motivational and aspirational. Every student needs to be held to standards, but also needs to believe we see their potential.
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2-15-2011 @ 4:06PM
tinplater said...She only expressed the feelings she has that are shared by many if not most teachers. Problem is she expressed them in a form where she had no control over who read them. As long as she didn't publicly discredit individuals, she is, in my opinion, only guilty of making an uninformed or unthought out decision to vent. The defense that she thought it wouldn't be read is valid. Clearly she wouldn't dream of doing that again. I am also quite certain she wouldn't have posted it in the first place if she thought her students would read it. Have any of you sent an e mail "reply to all" that you thought was just going to one individual? I would cut her some compassion.
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2-15-2011 @ 4:10PM
Jim said...Why should she be fired? She has a right to express herself to friends and family. Yes, she should have used password protection, but if some kid had hacked into her blog, this lynch mob would be still calling for her head. This is called freedom of speech. It's right in the Constitution. The school knows this and is just posturing to satisfy some imbeciles in the community. The lady is right about the dress and behavior of kids; its an abomination. The schools have lost all discipline and academic standards because teachers have been stripped of nearly all authority. You can't win being a teacher this days, so my advice; don't become one.
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2-15-2011 @ 5:15PM
Kate said...This is my former school. My sister attends this school. The students at this school, and most schools, are expected to respect certain rules about what they express and freedom of speech has certain limitations within the walls of a high school.
I was incredibly disappointed to learn that a teacher from my former school had done this. I can't imagine students at that school wanting to ever have her as a teacher again--afraid of what she might really be thinking of you. It's a teacher's job to make a student feel safe and have them leave the classroom knowing more than when they entered. She didn't do her job.
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2-18-2011 @ 12:04AM
Bob said...She is evidently burned out from having to deal with the undisiplined and illmannered 'HO's' and 'Players' we have allowed our children to become. Unfortunately, the truth hurts like a bitch sometimes. Should she have vented in a public forum? No. Is she correct? Unfortunately, yes!
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2-15-2011 @ 5:02PM
Marie said...As a teacher i feel what she did was unprofessional. If she needed to vent she could have done so using her own E-Mail. Yes, everything is public domain but at least her E-Mail is paramount to privacy as her own personal mailbox. On the other hand, as long as she did not use the students names her constitutional right to freedom of speech should be honored. We protect the rights of Neo-Nazis, racist of all colors, homosexuals and even deviants who use the network to download pornography. Why are teachers and police officers fair game?. Those of you who still are naive enough to think teaching is a noble profession that idea went out long ago with standardized tests, President Bush's twisted interpretation of NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND, and politicians who get elected bashing the teaching profession. And by the way it is only a "noble" profession when it is okay with college graduates with years of training and extra graduate classes to go without cost of living raises or taking money from our salaries to pay our pensions like we make a six figure salary to begin with! Teachers NEVER see a six figure salary- ever! Other than Nursing and Social Work there is no other profession that is treated so shabbily and underpaid as school teachers. Good Luck in getting college kids who take out 30-40,000 dollars in loans to start at a beginning teaching salary of 34,000 in the grand sunshine state of what Governor Scott is making a living hell for service related professionals. Freedom of Speech means just that- "freedom of speech." This teacher needs to stop paying useless union or association dues(if you live in a no- strike state like Florida) and hire a good lawyer to sue the school board.
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