SmackDown: Would You Publicly Punish Your Child?
Filed under: In The News, Opinions, Teen Culture

If you wear your failure, will you be motivated to improve? Illustration by Dori Hartley
Public Punishment Is a Much-Needed Dose of Discipline
by Jessica Samakow
I always wondered about the slackers in high school. You know, those kids who never turned in their homework on time and wrote two sentences as answers on tests when the question clearly asked for three paragraphs. As I watched them snooze on their desks, I would think to myself, "Hmm, do their parents just not care?"
If a kid is failing, I wondered, how could their parents not get involved?
One Florida mom did get involved when her child was failing in school, but some are questioning her tactics. Ronda Holder is being criticized for forcing her 15-year-old son James to stand on a street corner with a sign reading, "GPA 1.22 ... honk if I need education," Salon.com reports.
Some claim that this act was both humiliating and ineffective, and she was even reported to the Department of Children and Families.
I could understand how this punishment would be cruel if given to a child who was truly trying their hardest in school and was just having difficulty understanding the curriculum.
But, as Holder says, this was not the case with her son. She says she has tried anything and everything to get him to raise his grades. Her many attempts to help him were unsuccessful, but it was ultimately his indifference to the matter that prompted her to punish him publicly.
Completion weighs heavily on high school grades, so, even if a student fails a few tests, in many cases, as long as they have completed all of their assignments, they can still pass the class. It is probable that a kid who tries hard and completes his work, even if he is having a lot of trouble understanding will perform better than a kid who slacks off out of laziness.
Ronda Holder had her son's best interest at heart. She values education and wants him to do the same. If that means embarrassing him into caring, then, so be it. Even if he starts making an effort in school just to avoid humiliation on the streets, his grades will most likely improve.
And, isn't academic success the ultimate goal? Isn't that a win for everyone involved?
Instead of criticizing a mom who is exhausting all options to salvage her son's education, shouldn't we be criticizing the parents who do nothing at all?
Holder's son is probably not the only kid who is failing in his school, and he is certainly not the only kid in the nation who's struggling. But, unlike Holder, many parents sit back and watch their kids fail without doing a thing. If anyone should be reported to the Department of Children and Families, it should be them.
One day, when this slacker of a teen is mature enough to realize that his mom acted on his behalf, he will thank her. So, in the meantime, we should be applauding her -- not criticizing her.
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Shaming and Humiliating Teen is Not Tough Love; It's Tacky and Abusive
by Mary Beth Sammons
Any parent of teens knows that just about anything –- like your mere existence -- that draws attention to your kid is embarrassing. A pimple popping up on her face is mortifying; to her it's the size of a billboard and the whole world is noticing. Parents know this. That's why we don't blast tunes and sing loudly in the car and why we shrink to make ourselves invisible in public with them to ease the embarrassment.
So how appalling is it for a mom to purposefully hurtle her son into the spotlight and an adolescent nightmare of shame?
Fed up by their son's lack of effort to shape up academically, Tampa mom Ronda Holder conjured up the idea to stick the 15-year-old on a street corner with a chest-to-trunk poster board of his bad grades dangling from his neck, according to the St. Petersburg Times.
The Tampa hair stylist tells the Times she wants her son James to realize the importance of an education. "I don't want any of my kids to stand by the side of the road asking for change," she tells the newspaper.
What is she thinking?
Certainly, there are some child-rearing experts that profess that shame is the only effective way of breaking down misbehaving youth (i.e. the nuns in my Catholic grade school who would pluck gum-chewing kids from their desks and as punishment make us stand face forward to the blackboard as they administered a "tap" with the "board of education.") Humiliating, mortifying and a searing memory for life.
But, this takes the tough-love concept to a new level. To me, it is the worst low-class disciplinary solution, and screams of the mom's laziness and lack of creativity in helping her son get back on track. Instead, why not try sitting down and helping him with his homework? Or reaching out to school teachers, staff and a tutor for support and help? Or seek counseling? (For herself, of course.)
As a mom of three teens, there have certainly been moments when I've been at my wit's end. I've yanked cell phones, grounded, reached out to school advisers, talked to them and screamed at them, though I cringe at that. But I can't imagine tossing my kid out of the car and propping him on a street corner with a billboard broadcasting what should be dealt with as a private family matter.
Shame and humiliation is never the path to take. And here's another thought, after watching news clips with the mugs of missing teens who have vanished from bus stops and outside concert halls, is planting your kid in harms way, really that great an idea?
I agree with the child protective services and the psychologists who weighed in on this story saying: "It definitely would fall within the category of emotional abuse," Arlinda Amos, a licensed clinical psychologist and ombudsman for the Hillsborough Children's Board. "It's shame, embarrassment and humiliation. This will be a lifelong memory for him."
Here's my suggestion for this mom. Why doesn't she wear a sign and stand on a street corner: "Honk if you think I should be ashamed of myself!"











ReaderComments (Page 5 of 48)
2-22-2011 @ 3:09PM
Blonde Beauty said...I have to agree with you, wholeheartedly! I embarrassed my son, the first time unintentionally, and it worked like a freaking charm. Then, he started to get out of line a few months later, and I'm talking, this kid was,
at the time, only about 16 or 17 (he's 21yo now, and so much different, thank goodness lol), so I knew he would eventually grow out of his rebel ways, and he did. But, some teenagers need an ass-whooping (so to speak, not physically), to really learn about respect and good manners... Lo and behold, my son has impeccable manners! lol
2-22-2011 @ 3:17PM
Ted said...Lazy kids are normally the result of lazy parents. Stay involved and know what the kids are doing. Teaching doesn't end with the school day, it is supposed to continue at home until the home work and studying is done. I wonder what the mothers gpa is? Actions speak louder than words so a low gpa I assume.
2-23-2011 @ 3:42PM
Lacie said...Amen Ted.
2-22-2011 @ 2:21PM
P.J. said...Shame won't work, just make him feel bad about himself.
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2-22-2011 @ 2:28PM
mandy said...he should..
2-22-2011 @ 3:03PM
Sue said...I can't believe that this mom feels it is the right thing to do and I see that her son is a good son because he is actually doing what she wants by standing on the corner with that stupid sign! Yes he has low scores but doing what she did to him will not increase anything, especially his will to do better. Where did you go wrong MOM! I have two kids and at one point one of them thought it was "funny" to get lower grades then what they were capable of doing. I threatened to quit my job and go to school with them every day to make sure they were there in class paying attention. I was told that I would never do that to them and I replied "Watch Me". Needless to say that was enough of a threat and the grades improved. Perhaps Mom should go back to school with him to see exactly what the problem is although I think the problem may be in the home and the relationship or lack of relationship with Mom.
2-22-2011 @ 3:28PM
Jody said...Sue....so you think this Mom shouldn't use embarassment about his grades and lack of caring to improve them in order to be successful in life a good way to get his attention that she is serious about him "shaping up"? But you were going to quit your job and walk your kid from class to class to make sure he did his work and got good grades? Don't you think that would have embarassed your kid to death in front of his peers? That his Mother has to take him by the hand and walk him to his classes? Give me a break..that would be soooo much more of an humiliation and embarassment than this kid is going through! If she gets through to him then a little embarassment will have been worth it...getting help from the schools is a joke and most families don't have the money to put the kid in "therepy" to fix his lack of initiative....sometimes you have to do what it takes to get through to your teenager...taking away privileges, restriction, using every avenue open to you through your school system (which, in a lot of them, is not much) and yes, even, a little embarassment.
2-22-2011 @ 4:38PM
whatever said...Mind your own business. Let a PARENT do what is best for HER child. That is what's wrong with the kids today. Parents cannot raise them how the feel is right. BUT OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!
Way to go MOM.
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2-22-2011 @ 2:24PM
Samantha said...I am shocked for this child; yes, he's just a child. There are innumerable ways for him to become a good student & this mother is totally off the grid. His indifference points to his lack of understanding; he may be dyslexic, or any number of other adversities.
I suggest that she find out what is physically bothering him that it can be treated. Then & only then will he have the ability to understand & one day become a good student.
We've all been humiliated in one way or another. I guarantee you, those are the moments that forever prey on our minds. I know, I found out years later that I was 'directionally dyslexic'; couldn't put the numbers in the right places, or adjust a pattern in sewing class.
Yet, I had the ability to study hard with homework; slowly, but it kept my grades up. I also became a great seamstress & ended up working 17 years in accounting & payroll. BUT, I still remember being humiliated when I had to ask questions. If you don't know, you MUST ask, that's how we learn.
I hope this young man gets excellent guidance.
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2-22-2011 @ 2:33PM
fred said...You know, this mother had to have a fairly strong relationship with her son because he didn't just throw the sign down on the sode of the road, call his buds on his cell, and ditch her.
2-22-2011 @ 3:44PM
Laura said...Absolutely label the kid...No way around it...just diagnose a problem, get a little pill into him and that fixes everything. Everyone is way off here. My gosh, if people would quit worrying about what mental illness he has and get with the reality of how our system is no longer working because there are such restraints on discipline at school and at home..maybe our whole country would get better. What is wrong with a little consequence for poor behavior? Good gosh, everyone is acting like she tarred and feathered him. It's a SIGN FOR GOSH SAKES!!! If he is embarrassed, get with the program and get the FREE EDUCATION that is offered. Get off your soap boxes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2-22-2011 @ 2:24PM
C3737 said...I challenge any one of you to be a teacher for a day. The lack of respect and lack of motivation that students have is unbelievable! Bravo to this mom for trying everything. We spend so much time worrying about kids feelings that we are creating a generation that wants everything handed to them, thinks they deserve an A just because they showed up, and is incapable of thinking for themselves. At least this mom care enough to do something.
And to csi8299....this in no way compares to a parent forcing their child to kill their pet!
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2-22-2011 @ 2:50PM
fred said...The sad part too.. a 22 yr old that learned how to use the system and be lazy as hell. NO job, no want a job, no want to bathe, or anything. Mom was told had to give in to what he wanted from cps! of course. so he grew up knowing he could do what wanted and get what wanted and just doesnt have to do a thing! So guess what? We have a society of kids that know they can do as please and the parents and society have to bow to them. We have to do something before they are all saying they are crazy and taking my social security! What a joke we have become...and another thing...why are we allowing people to come over here from other places and take our money????
2-22-2011 @ 2:58PM
Melissa said...The issue being, does this method work? Because it sounds like you're just reveling in the revenge. I'm questioning the intelligence of anyone here who just automatically accepts discipline without thinking of the consequences. Does it even MATTER to you if it ends up not working at all?
2-22-2011 @ 3:35PM
kirk said...It does matter to me if it works. I truely would like to see his grades improve over the next 6 weeks for the rest of his life. Being lazy is no way to go through life. Maybe this will be the kickstart he needs so he will never be in the same position again.
2-22-2011 @ 8:12PM
Louise said...I have been a teacher in the poorest performing high school in my city. I have raised three kids with very differnt outcomes. I have also used my education to be a volunteer reading specialist. This child is without a doubt being abused, and one can only imagine what he endures in the "privacy" of his home. When a child is told he is no good, he internalizes and fulfills that idea. Ideally this child would be removed from his sick home, but there are very few places he can go. If anyone out there cares, volunteer with your public library or school district.
2-22-2011 @ 2:23PM
BENINRB said...Hooray for Ms. Holder. If more parents would take an interst in their child's (mis)behavior then there would be less dysfunctional kids out there.
Ms. Sammons is totally off base here. She thinks that coddling this poor young man is the naswer. believe me it's not.
I am a retired deputy probation officer and worked with delinquent kids for over 20 years. We had many who came into our system and left with marginal education skills, such as reading on a second grade level and unable to read or write. Where are their families?
We as parents owe our children the structure and discipline as well as our love and support to guide them on a productive road to adulthood.
I applaude Ms.Holder and her efforts to guide her son.
Take a lesson Ms. Sammons.
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2-22-2011 @ 2:35PM
momof4 said...Horray for the mom!!! If her son cannot handle a small amount of embarrassement that people will soon forget, then how will he ever handle the trials & tribulations out in the real world? At least this shows that she cares, and wants her son to make a good life for himself by getting an education. Parents need to stop coddling their children and start preparing them for adulthood.
2-22-2011 @ 2:24PM
Chris said...Amen, this woman should be given a medal and the key to the city. We have enough dumbasses and wastiods in society. This young person needs to take an interest in his future or better learn the phrase "would you like fries with that?"
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2-23-2011 @ 9:07AM
co said...Good for her. I support her 100%
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