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Boy, 8, Arrested for 5th Time in 4 Months
Filed under: In The News, Behavior: Big Kids
Police have repeatedly been called to arrest an 8-year-old boy. Credit: Getty
It's been a busy four months.
No, this is not another Charlie Sheen story. This is all the work of an 8-year-old boy.
The Orlando Sentinel reports the child, who attends Riverside Elementary School in Orlando, Fla., spends most of his time at the school in a unit designed to help students with significant emotional or behavioral problems.
He spends the rest of the time, it seems, with police.
Arrested on March 1 for the fifth time since November, the newspaper reports, the boy spent the next three days in juvenile detention.
His rap sheet would make young Al Capone jealous with charges as aggravated battery, criminal mischief and aggravated assault with a deadly weapon.
Are these repeated field trips to the hoosegow helping?
Maybe not, school officials tell the Sentinel, but they're necessary to protect others.
The problems allegedly began Nov. 10 when, according to the newspaper, police responded to reports of the boy assaulting a teacher and spitting on a another adult.
"Take me to jail!" he allegedly demanded. Police obliged.
Calls to police are a last resort and are made only when "the student gets so unruly and out of control," Ron Pinnell, a senior school administrator in Orlando, tells the Sentinel. "It's not something they take lightly. You have to think through it."
This might be the end of the line for the boy -- at least at Riverside. His mother, through the Orange County Public Defender's Office, tells the Sentinel her son will not be returning to school.
Some people fault school officials for the way they have handled the situation, the newspaper reports.
Robert Wesley, an Orange County public defender, tells the Sentinel he has taken the case personally because his younger brother has a disability and sometimes lashes out.
"Why aren't we dealing with this more holistically? Why are we dealing with it the way we deal with an adult who has hit somebody or damaged some property?" he asks the newspaper.
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ReaderComments (Page 5 of 13)
3-04-2011 @ 5:22PM
Sandra said...When is this child going to get a correct diagnosis? This is more than behavioral. Get him to the right doctor!!!!
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3-04-2011 @ 5:29PM
Marie said...This child should not be arrested he should be helped mentally. Obviously there is something wrong and must be addressed. Shame on the school just to assume he is a little monster. A child that young acting out like that obviously has a problem and should be helped not arrested.
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3-04-2011 @ 5:29PM
Vinsmom99 said...I really feel for parents of children with special needs. However, I finally have to say I am tired of my well-behaved child having to find ways to deal with these kids. My son often is victimized by these special needs children only to be told he is the one who needs to adjust. When you consider how many years special teachers are supposed to go to school in order to work with these special needs kids, how can anyone expect my 10 year old to be equipped to do so? Someone has to take control and if that means calling the police then so be it.
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3-11-2011 @ 11:28AM
cal said...This situation is usually what obtains where there is no father around. Unfortunately your society makes it difficult to discipline children to make a better person/society. It is always difficult for women/mothers to handle unruly children especially the boys, this is where the role of a father comes in no matter how weak he might be unless he is dead. Sad enough modern society is encouraging single parenting and when issues go out of control the society at large pays for it. Since this boy is showing macho signs, send him to his father if he is alive and let them face each other as men. Meanwhile keep guns away from him.
3-04-2011 @ 5:48PM
Joe said...As long as the courts insist that kids such as this must have access to regular public schools (placating parents) and school administrators have "special" classes within those schools for these kids (trying to best deal with a student who really should not be there) thus placing other students and teachers at risk during those periods when the kid is not in "special" class, this sort of stuff will happen.
Political correctness will not allow us to recognize the reality that some of us have no business being turned loose on the general population.
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3-04-2011 @ 5:45PM
Christina said...First of all let me explain something to those of you that think the school is doing the right thing. Schools were encouraged over the last twenty years to use inclusion to include children with disabilities who were once excluded in private centers. These private centers educated not just children who were emotionally disturbed but also children with varying other overt disabilities included those who were mentally retarded. The group that shouted loud and strong for inclusion was the ARC ( Association for Retarded Children ) and for thier children it made sense. They were capable of being social with peers despite not keeping up accademically. However, these special centers were outfitted to deal with these kinds of outbursts and chalenges faced by those children who are mentally and emotionally disturbed.
The school systems have figured out its cheaper to put a classroom in each school and call it a Level 5 class and place emotionally disturbed children in it, rather than having a special center and more personel. In the meanwhile you have a child who should be getting help in a special center instead being blamed for the fact that he was born with a mental disability and cannot control his actions, arrested.
Now has this school system offered to have this child sent to a special school outside of his school district where they specialize in emotional disturbances? Are they willing to pay the 30,000 to 50,000 a year it will cost for the tuition and transportation?
Instead lets blame it on the kid with the disability and arrest him.
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3-04-2011 @ 5:39PM
andy said...people becaome teachers of special needs children so they do not have to work and are nothing more than high priced baby sitters.
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3-04-2011 @ 6:45PM
Megan said...Andy, that is so ignorant. I have seen the hard, frustrating, and sometimes rewarding work many of these teachers do. They are not babysitting, they are helping to educate children who don't learn in conventional ways. Their jobs are harder than regular teachers' (and their jobs are hard enough), because they have to figure out different ways to teach for each individual child. Special needs teachers should be highly honored. (Maybe you're bitter because you didn't get the special needs help you needed when you were young.)
3-05-2011 @ 10:00AM
firefly1678 said...A Orlando news website says that this boys mother ignored a previous court order to get her son therapy. I believe that in itself is the most telling sign of what is going on here...lack of parental care and supervision.
There are MANY emotionally disabled kids whose parents do care and do everything they can but we must also admit that there are those that just don't gibe a d@mn and those kids should be removed and sent to a facility where they can receive the proper treatment and care. It is not "cruel" nor "unusual" to do so because I personally know kids that were removed from the home (some at their parents' readults because they had no other way of getting their child help) and are now highly productive and successful adults. And THAT is what is most important in the end...
3-04-2011 @ 6:16PM
XLMB said...My heart goes out to this parent. My child will be 8 this year and although his problems are not to this degree it takes a horrible toll on you emotionally and physically, and makes you wonder if you did something wrong as a parent or during your pregnancy. The fact the child has been arrested so many times infuriates me!!! You do not handle a child with these types of problems, ESPECIALLY AN 8 YEAR OLD by putting them in Juvi... What a bunch of aholes!!!!!
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3-04-2011 @ 7:36PM
robin wills said...the boy has no disability.. he told them to take him to jail and they listened to him and took him to jail (did what the boy said to do). after a short period he is back to where he was, boasting of what he did and where he's been...building his resume so to speak...
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3-04-2011 @ 5:54PM
Capwhan said...Gotta wonder if he is white, black, or Spanish.
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3-04-2011 @ 8:21PM
vikki said...why the hell should it matter?
3-04-2011 @ 5:58PM
miah said...My head is spinning with all of the advice from you arm psychologists. Give it a rest. Obviously, you do not know all the facts and haven't the slightest idea of what should be done to help this young man overcome whatever is the cause of his behavior. As for blaming the parents--again, you know nothing of his upbringing or his home life. give it a rest .
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3-04-2011 @ 6:02PM
Sandy said...As a nurse I have to ask: Is thise child on medications? Has the medications been reviewed and adjusted. I care for a little girl with behavior problems and the medications must be reviewed at times with growth and behavior patterns. This child need to have a review from a psychiatrist and maybe even placed in a mental in-patient facility to adjust the medications.
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3-04-2011 @ 6:06PM
leon said...Knuckel sandwich
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3-04-2011 @ 6:08PM
leon said...Knuckle sandwich
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3-04-2011 @ 6:11PM
Sandy said...The problems with the education system is "money" is always the key issue. Parents always have to fight for every dollar for their child. The school is always reluctant to spend the money, even when the state money is given in thousands of dollars for each special need child. When the parents want the school to get the necessary equipment and educational material for special need children, they always need a IEP, the educational must do list for the school, with each child and an advocate to protect the parents and the children's rights. The IEP specifies what each child needs in the school, the classroom, restriction to activities and class time, tutoring time, if the child needs an aide at all times during classtime, and any special equipment, etc.
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3-04-2011 @ 6:25PM
kitty said...As the mother of a child who has issues similar to this, I totally support the school. My son beat up my daughter on the school bus and the school gave me the option to press charges since both children involved were mine. I DID! It was not something I wanted to do but it was something that needed to be done because my job is not to be his buddy, it is to be his mother. The school gets a bad wrap because they are limited in what they can do but it is the PARENTS who made it that way. If parents would let their children be held accountable and not try to blame EVERYONE ELSE for their child's short comings then maybe the schools could teach our children and not worry about who they will offend or who is going to sue them.
On one of the many occasions I visited the principal's office, I asked if I could sign a paddle plan so he could be punished at school. I was told the superintendent "frowned" on paddling children. I asked if I could borrow their paddle and the principal said the superintendent had given orders to prevent any physical punishment on the school grounds -- including parents. Where was she when I got my behind wailed on 20 + years ago?? I only had to receive 2 paddlings in school (kindergarten and 1st grade) for me to figure out that I did not want to be a bad student.
My son continues to do stuff at school and his principal is fighting for him. He goes to a great school (just not a great school system) and I have given them the name of his probation officer and told them that I would FULLY support whatever they had to do to keep order in their school and provide the children who wanted to learn the ability to do so. If that means that because my son decides to steal or beat some one up or other criminal acts that he has to go to jail, I will hate it as his mother but I am not the one who makes that choice. He does. I have another child at home who is the polar opposite and excels in both her behavior and her school work. Obviously something I did was right or I would not have her. They have both had the same upbringing and were taught the same morals. She has chosen to live by them and he chooses daily to rebel against them.
I would hope that, like I did with my own son, that this boy's mother gets him help. She can request counseling and other mental health assistance from the department of juvenile justice. For this boy's sake, I hope she does.
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3-04-2011 @ 7:02PM
Megan said...@ kitty: So, now that you've had your son arrested (as a good parent would), he's all better now, right? Problem solved. Oh, wait, you already answered that. But the spanking, that works, right? Oh wait, you already answered that. I guess the harsh disciplinary measures you use with your child don't fix his problems. Thanks for answering that. (You might want to try a different approach.)