State Laws Punishing Parents for the Sins of the Children
Filed under: In The News, Education: Big Kids, Education: Tweens, Education: Teens
"Fathers shall not be put to death because of their children, nor shall children be put to death because of their fathers. Each one shall be put to death for his own sin." -- Deuteronomy 24:16
Maybe, but don't go pulling that Deuteronomy stuff in Alaska, California or Florida. Your kid messes up in those states, and you're gonna fry!
The New York Times reports lawmakers in Alaska and California have new laws on the books to visit the price of tardiness, absenteeism and other sins of the child upon the parent. The Florida Legislature is considering cracking down on parents, as well.
Just take a look at standardized test scores and graduation rates. What do all the "best" schools have in common? They have involved parents.
Ah, but how do you motivate parents to get involved, you ask? There are a lot of complicated answers to that question, but the easiest one is to borrow a page from Sister Mary Dominatra over at Our Lady of Perpetual Discipline and take a few rulers to the right knuckles.
Or, perhaps the sting of fines, parenting classes and other acts of penance.
Hear that fiendish chortling in the distance? The Times reports it could be coming from teachers, happy to see the bony finger of judgment point in another direction for a change.
They're feeling a mite persecuted lately, The Times reports, with Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker declaring open warfare on his state's teachers' union and politicians across the land slamming teachers for underachieving students.
Now, The Times reports, politicians are turning their hairy eyeballs on parents.
"Any kind of problem in an academic setting, and people blame the teachers," Indiana state Rep. Linda Lawson tells the newspaper. "They say things like 'If teachers were more responsive, didn't have the summers off, worked an eight-hour day.' But no one looks at the parents."
Well, they're looking now.
Lawson introduced a bill requiring parents to spend three hours each semester volunteering either in the school building or at a school-related function. She framed it as an anti-bullying measure, even though it would apply to all parents, not just the parents of bullies.
She tells The Times she wants to increase parent-teacher interaction.
"Teachers were telling us: 'We can only do so much in the classroom. We have no control over what happens with these kids at home,' " Florida state Rep. Kelli Stargel tells The Times.
Her remedy? Grade parents on their involvement in their kids' education, then post their grades on the kids' report cards. Uh-oh. Looks like someone may get his Xbox taken away. Sorry, Dad. Sucks being you.
Grading parents. Yeah, that ought to boost teachers' popularity.
"We don't feel that the teacher having to grade the parent is really going to improve that relationship," Cindy Gerhardt, the president of the Florida Parent-Teacher Association, tells The Times.
Alaska doesn't bother with grading parents. It hits them where they live -- right in the wallet. Parents get fined when their kids are habitually tardy or absent. And parents in California can face misdemeanor criminal charges for similar offenses.
Americans love to punish people, Diane Ravitch, an education historian and the author of "The Death and Life of the Great American School System," tells The Times.
"If we could just find the right person to punish," she says. "Punish the teachers. Punish the parents. It's Dickensian. What we should be doing instead is giving a helping hand."
Jesus might agree with that. From John 9:1-3:
"As he passed by, he saw a man blind from birth. And his disciples asked him: 'Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?' Jesus answered, 'It was not that this man sinned, or his parents, but that the works of God might be displayed in him.' "
Modern translation: "Geez, why do you people always have to have someone to blame?"
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ReaderComments (Page 2 of 10)
5-23-2011 @ 2:27PM
Reem said...If you are concerned about the kids then why do you all put junk tv out there for kids to see! Sleep and nutrition is not the most importatn thing. Having a well rounded smart interactive society is key. I never seen much junk on TV like I have seen here in the US. We, at our home, have discontinued cable all together because of all the stupied reality and bad quality shows. There is nothing of substance anymore! The end result is that our kids are fantastic students!
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5-23-2011 @ 3:26PM
stew said...your comments show that YOU are one of the blames. too much junk on tv, so you just do the typical knee-jerk reaction and discontinue tv.
my kids started watching tv when they were very young. no....we didn't like a lot of the stuff on tv. so, instead of just saying no to tv....you take the time to teach your kids that not everything on tv is real. there are too many things on tv that are worthwhile.
and, yeah...my kids were both honor students and advanced placement students.
bottom line? you don't just take something away because you feel its not worth it. make it a lesson in itself.
sure...most of tv is crap. but, if you explain to your kids, instead of denying them, they will get a better understanding of things out there.
5-23-2011 @ 2:25PM
Tammie said...I have 6 kids, work full time and go to school full time to finish my Masters. My husband works a job that keeps him out of town 4 days out of 7. While I would love to be that "volunteer" at school functions, dances, programs and the like, when the programs are after 5pm, and involve an interuption of the little one's regular routine, attending these things is less about enjoyment and helping, and more about annoyance and inconvenience. Teachers want parents to be involved and be responsible, and I totally agree. However, it takes both parents to work to make ends meet. And then when they add these programs to evenings when parents "should" be aiding with homework, what do they expect parents to do? I may be a "super mom" to my kids; but these schools are asking a lot looking for "supermoms" and "superdads" to have the financial stability to take time off from work to spend a day (or evening for those parents who work opposite shifts to avoid having to need to pay for babysitters) to be "more involved" in school functions. As to the problem with truancy, sometime it is no ones fault but the child's. With 6 kids, everyone makes it out the door on time, every day; except the oldest. He can never find his belongings, or he just drags himself out of bed, instead of getting up quickly in the morning, Getting him up earlier is not the solution, he still waits until the last minute, or takes extra time in the shower. While I agree that parental involvement in childrens' school lives has decreased since the beginning of the 21st century, these states need to consider the changes in society and the needs of the family that the parents put first.
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5-23-2011 @ 2:52PM
autisticparent33 said...I completely agree with you. my Husband works over 12 hours a day sometimes longer for a IT firm I have to work in the day some very strange hours in order just to get my son off to school. He is austistic so he needs someone to make sure he is all situated before heading out despite his age. I have IED meetings twice a year thats not so bad... but when it comes to parent teacher conferences during the week when I am supposed to be at work instead of weekends. dinners and brunches at the schools and other various things they have PTA and so on. it is just tough to get to those when we Have to work. there is no option. I'm pretty sure there are other parents out there that are even worse off than I am . perhaps a disobedient child who is just hardheaded.. you send them to the bus but how are you to know they enter the school... there is only so much a parent Today can do without getting arrested to discipline a child today... schools cannot have it both ways.
5-23-2011 @ 3:18PM
Tina said...Tammie, It sounds like you have a lot on your plate. Too much, in fact. In today's society it is a financial struggle to have even two children. How do parents justify having six children, then overwhelm themselves with having to have both parents working full time, not to mention also going to school working a your master's degree. The concept of "it takes a village to raise a child" no longer applies, unless you are blessed to have both sets of grandparents, aunts and uncles living close by to help. Even so, their probably working too and can't expect to be burdened with the care-taking of your kids. One of you needs to cut back drastically with work and leave the master's on hold till the youngest is in at least middle school (that's about the time they won't want you around so much). But, your kids are missing out on the one thing they need most in this world right now and that is attention from their parents. And please don't cry "we can't afford it". In todays society people should not think it is their right to have so many kids and then bicker when the schools ask for your participation. These are your children, for God's sake, even pets deserve better. Quit having more kids and start giving the ones you've already produced the one-on-one attention they deserve.
5-23-2011 @ 3:40PM
bla bla bla said...You should think before you had 6 KIDS, dahhhh
5-23-2011 @ 4:33PM
Caitlyn said...Six kids..smdh! If you and your hubby had stop with just one or two you wouldn't be complaining like the lame parent you are! Next time use birth control.
5-23-2011 @ 4:42PM
Carol said...After many years of teaching, I saw a definite change in the way parents respond to the school's attempt to educate children. I was a single parent with children in a school system other than the one where I was employed. I wasn't a perfect parent, and I couldn't volunteer in the school very often. However, my kids knew that if they were late for class I would not bail them out with a phony excuse. If they didn't do homework, I would not make up excuses. If they were a discipline problem in school, I would not step in to shield them from consequences, and there would be additional consequences at home. My kids knew that the family was a cooperative enterprise, and their job was school, mine was supporting them. There were no excuses for poor behavior. If something was truly beyond their control, such as a lesson or topic that they could not master, help was always there. However, there was never any thought that they could argue their way out of a situation that they created. You might be surprised at the amount of flack I took for that approach. However, successful kids are the result.
5-23-2011 @ 4:51PM
shamikaisgreat said...@Tammie..you claim you and your hubby don't have time to help with after school activities nor get your oldest child out of the house on time bc you work and go to school and your hubby is gone 4 out of 7 days in the week? but yet yall found the time to keep having sex and bang out 6 damn kids???? You and your husband sound like two LOSERS!
5-23-2011 @ 2:33PM
Don Ranski said...Parents do have responsibility - BUT- not every kid is a genius. I was fortunate to have good teachers in school, and that's where I learned. My parents never sat with me to do homework. There are far to many teachers today that simply don't know how to TEACH!
And, I've had a few of those. Besides, there's too much emphasis on worthless topic's that frustrate kid's and cause them to zone out.
Algegra in 4th grade?? Diagraming a sentence? When was the last time you did that? Get back to basic's. Teach a kid to read and write and do basic math and they can figure the rest out for themselves. It's the government screwing up the system, not the teachers or parents!!!!!!!!
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5-23-2011 @ 4:41PM
mmemond said...Diagramming a sentence is a "basic." It teaches the parts of speech & their proper location in a sentence.
5-23-2011 @ 4:52PM
Carol said...One of the most valuable things I ever learned was how to diagram a sentence. Was it fun? No. However, my profession requires me to read long and detailed material, my knowledge of diagramming has enabled me to ferret out meaning that might otherwise pass me by. Just because you can't immediately see the use of something does not mean or even imply that it is "useless knowledge." In fact, I personally think that the term "useless knowledge" is an oxymoron.
5-23-2011 @ 2:25PM
Glenn Posner said...Yes...the buck stops with the parents....
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5-23-2011 @ 5:38PM
Jana said...Spoken like a person who does not have a teenager.
5-23-2011 @ 3:19PM
Rayyz said...repugos are supposed to be for less government. !!
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5-23-2011 @ 3:35PM
gbsmitty said...Lawson is a liberal Democrat genius. You know, the people who don't care what your do as long as it's mandatory.
5-23-2011 @ 2:27PM
Melanie said...The schools failed my child - a brilliant human who nearly flunked out because she was so bored. The teachers didn't want me hanging around. They rarely tried to contact me - ever. Some of the teachers didn't understand the basics of ADHD. Most tried to force my child to do everything THEIR way (no flexibility).
In high school she out-manipulated everyone and cut over 50 days one year (I didn't find out until the last 6 wks of school).
She's now in college, pulling 4.0's and happy to be challenged and allowed to learn the way she learns best. (Yes, the teachers tried to force my square peg into a round hole). I've lost all respect for teachers and I'm SO happy my child is out of the system.
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5-23-2011 @ 2:43PM
Anthony said...I'm sorry, but what exactly do you think happens at a job in the real world? Do you think they just let you do whatever you want your way? No. They want you to do things THEIR way so they get done. This is partially what school is there for, to get your child ready for the REAL WORLD.
So now, when your 4.0 wonder child gets out of college and finds out the real world isn't full of parties and easy electives and she can't find that golden job that lets her do everything her way and on her time, you can enjoy supporting her because you'd rather blame the school for trying to teach her a regimen than take responsibility for being such a great parent that you didn't even know she was ditching for months.
5-23-2011 @ 3:32PM
wayne said...If you missed 50 days of work how long would your employer keep you? Or if you were an employer how long would you keep someone on your payrole that dumped as many days? No matter how brillent someone is if they are not there they are not getting the work done.
5-23-2011 @ 3:12PM
vaultingligo said...I am so tired of hearing people say teachers need to "do their job" or "teachers don't even try to help". As a child of 2 teachers, both teaching for 30+ years, I have been around the teaching profession enough to know there are great teachers and those that are not. But how do you expect to get great teachers when we pay them crap? Both my parents have master and phds and teach middle school science. These days people with those kinds of resumes are not teaching. They can make way more money somewhere else. My point is, if you want high quality teachers that make more of an effort you need to up their pay. An increase in pay will help make teaching positions more coveted, thus making it more competitive to become a teacher. With competition you can ensure better applicants get these teaching positions. And no, I am not a teacher.