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"Fathers shall not be put to death because of their children, nor shall children be put to death because of their fathers. Each one shall be put to death for his own sin." -- Deuteronomy 24:16
Maybe, but don't go pulling that Deuteronomy stuff in Alaska, California or Florida. Your kid messes up in those states, and you're gonna fry!
The New York Times reports lawmakers in Alaska and California have new laws on the books to visit the price of tardiness, absenteeism and other sins of the child upon the parent. The Florida Legislature is considering cracking down on parents, as well.
Just take a look at standardized test scores and graduation rates. What do all the "best" schools have in common? They have involved parents.
Ah, but how do you motivate parents to get involved, you ask? There are a lot of complicated answers to that question, but the easiest one is to borrow a page from Sister Mary Dominatra over at Our Lady of Perpetual Discipline and take a few rulers to the right knuckles.
Or, perhaps the sting of fines, parenting classes and other acts of penance.
Hear that fiendish chortling in the distance? The Times reports it could be coming from teachers, happy to see the bony finger of judgment point in another direction for a change.
They're feeling a mite persecuted lately, The Times reports, with Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker declaring open warfare on his state's teachers' union and politicians across the land slamming teachers for underachieving students.
Now, The Times reports, politicians are turning their hairy eyeballs on parents.
"Any kind of problem in an academic setting, and people blame the teachers," Indiana state Rep. Linda Lawson tells the newspaper. "They say things like 'If teachers were more responsive, didn't have the summers off, worked an eight-hour day.' But no one looks at the parents."
Well, they're looking now.
Lawson introduced a bill requiring parents to spend three hours each semester volunteering either in the school building or at a school-related function. She framed it as an anti-bullying measure, even though it would apply to all parents, not just the parents of bullies.
She tells The Times she wants to increase parent-teacher interaction.
"Teachers were telling us: 'We can only do so much in the classroom. We have no control over what happens with these kids at home,' " Florida state Rep. Kelli Stargel tells The Times.
Her remedy? Grade parents on their involvement in their kids' education, then post their grades on the kids' report cards. Uh-oh. Looks like someone may get his Xbox taken away. Sorry, Dad. Sucks being you.
Grading parents. Yeah, that ought to boost teachers' popularity.
"We don't feel that the teacher having to grade the parent is really going to improve that relationship," Cindy Gerhardt, the president of the Florida Parent-Teacher Association, tells The Times.
Alaska doesn't bother with grading parents. It hits them where they live -- right in the wallet. Parents get fined when their kids are habitually tardy or absent. And parents in California can face misdemeanor criminal charges for similar offenses.
Americans love to punish people, Diane Ravitch, an education historian and the author of "The Death and Life of the Great American School System," tells The Times.
"If we could just find the right person to punish," she says. "Punish the teachers. Punish the parents. It's Dickensian. What we should be doing instead is giving a helping hand."
Jesus might agree with that. From John 9:1-3:
"As he passed by, he saw a man blind from birth. And his disciples asked him: 'Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?' Jesus answered, 'It was not that this man sinned, or his parents, but that the works of God might be displayed in him.' "
Modern translation: "Geez, why do you people always have to have someone to blame?"
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ReaderComments (Page 6 of 10)
5-23-2011 @ 4:30PM
kc said...Good thing I don't have kids. lol. Recken there'll be ppl moving to other States. But then every State will b doing that. I think it's wrong. It could land in Court some day. Thanks God I don't have kids. Whatever they do, not my problem. lolol.
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5-23-2011 @ 4:46PM
Harry Hurt said...The reason the schools and the teachers don't want the parents involved is because the parents will want their children to grow up to pursue PROFIT in their futures. They want the govarmint to shape America's future children, into socialists, welfare mongers, and democrats. Keep the parents out of it so the liberals can do their evil work.
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5-23-2011 @ 4:44PM
BO said...I don't care if you teach, what you teach, that you teach. when you teach, where you teach, who you teach, why you teach: I only care HOW you teach for that public money you spend each year.
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5-23-2011 @ 4:44PM
joe said...Finally, finally, FINALLY!!!!!!!!!! It's only taken how many years for people to finally get it!!!!!!!! Kids are as they are because of the way they are raised. And that is the end of it. Period. No debate. And to hold those that raise them responsible makes 100% sense. I cringe everytime someone blames a schoool or a teacher for a student's issues. It is not the school's or teacher's problems. It is the parents. Now, of course that this is out in the open, how many weeks will it take for some idiot who claims they know about child rearing to squelch this "new" approach? I'm counting!
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5-23-2011 @ 4:46PM
flyspech said...So Scott, what grade would you give to your English teacher?
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5-23-2011 @ 4:51PM
Charlotte said...Having been an educator for 35 years, I wish I had the answer. I believe parenting classes should be mandatory. During my tenure, I found there were a great many parents who really had good intentions, but really didn't have a clue as to how to be a parent. We can't wait until a child is 5,6 or 7....by that time, an achievement gap is already evident.Parents have to convey the message that education is to be VALUED! Students need to understand that it is their job, responsiblity to put their best effort into all of their studies. That education has its own rewards.In addition,those students whose families are on public assistance should not see this as a way of life (we are now into the 3rd generation in some families). Some type of work fare program must be tied into public assistance so that children can see their parents as productive members of society and not aspire to "stay home and get paid" as I have heard some young students say.
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5-24-2011 @ 12:18PM
trot blevins said...me and my wife were each charged with a class d felony because our little girl missed 37 and a half days of school over a three year period, my wife is 45 and never been in trouble a day in her life and she was arrested and stripe searched like a murderier would be,and most of the days our daughter missed school we had doctors excuses but in indiana they dont count because your kid was still not in school,this is just another way to take away the rights we are suppose to have,are the parents going to be payed .
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5-23-2011 @ 5:01PM
Ian said...The public school system gets $$ for every day your kid sits in the classroom ($160 daily for each student in our district) and major $$$ for ranking higher and higher on state tests. please, kids are a cash cow to them, they care NOTHING about education. Teachers who spent years of their lives learning to "teach" in a public setting have to teach as the State Board of Education tells them to- not always how they think subjects should be taught. Add the fact that they make baby sitting wages- the bad teachers just do that- baby sit..good teachers who care- have to babysit for puny wages and actually teach for free Don't blame teachers for the higher ups making rules that are stupid...parentsin the US now think "that is what I pay taxes for- the teacher to do the job--but hten turn around and whine because they basically loose their parental rights...cant have it both ways .... we Homeschool..I do not have to deal with this- if parents dont like it, do the job yourself- simple as that
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5-23-2011 @ 5:01PM
highstep101 said...I don't think dictatorship through laws is the answer. Kids will be kids no matter the education or parenting. This really isn't the answer but it is a way for school in exteremly entitlement states to get a hold of more money so they can continue to over spend. But then again in this democratically run country people are fined for pretty much everything else so why not for parenting too.
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5-23-2011 @ 5:09PM
ptumember said...To geek
It is a teacher's job to teach, as it is a parent's job to make sure the child DOES the homework to reinforce what was taught. It is the parent's job to make sure his or her child stays after school or gets to school early to receive extra help for the topics the child doesn't understand. It is the parent's job to make sure his or her child STUDIES for any assessment that may be given in class. It is the parent's job to make sure the child gets up to get to school on time. It is the parent's job to make sure that the child goes to bed at an appropriate time. It is the parent's job to make sure the child has food whether it be from the home, money for school lunch, or filling out necessary paperwork for free or reduced lunch. It is the parent's job to know where his or her child is, and make sure his or her child is NOT out in the streets getting into trouble. I am sure you will all agree that I haven't listed anything unfairly. As you see, the parent plays a MUCH bigger role in the child's education.
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5-23-2011 @ 5:15PM
scott said...UNIONS
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5-23-2011 @ 5:18PM
airodee said...There's absolutely nothing wrong with having a big family!!
I'm the oldest of 6, and absolutely disgusted with comments from the likes of "blah-blah-blah" & "Cathy".
Who the hell do you think you are to judge? And such is the case, thank goodness, you and people like you, can stay on your own birth control just fine, We'll populate the planet with -nice- people who actually -like- children.
Kids are amazing, even the toughest ones who've been through alot. Shame on us adults who "think" they're grown up, but still act like the spoiled brats they themselves condenm.
Pro-choice means just that- you get to choose. You don't judge for having kids, and we don't judge those who don't.
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5-23-2011 @ 7:39PM
Phil Greenberg said...The biggest flaw in this is NOT that standardized tests are high in schools where parents are involved, but are best where schools and parents have more money. We punish the schools that don't test well. The parents have a lot to do with it, but maybe the state and fed's should also take a closer look at how they're treating the schools.
My wife and I direct or children towards the answer without giving the answer. If we do it all for them, they will never learn.
Maybe we should also look at the curriculum these schools are using. The "Spiral" curriculum doesn't work for every student.
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5-23-2011 @ 5:24PM
jadep said...I think it's a good idea,but should take it a step further and punish the fathers as well. If there is a 2 parent family they both are responsible for making sure their child does his/her homework and prepares for tests. It may be a little harder for a single parent home, but it is equally important for the child to have that encouragement.
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5-23-2011 @ 5:24PM
Tom said...I don't have much of a problem with this, although if it gets administered by a bunch of morons, it won't work. Go into a school and look at the hellion kids, go to juvenile court and look at the kids that go there, go to any place where a bunch of foul-mouthed disrespectful kids hang out, then go look at the parents. Often you'll see where it all comes from, whether it's taking no interest in the kid at all, or in defending the kid in all circumstances right or wrong and the facts be damned. Our school system is not supposed to be a glorified day care center for miscreants. Kids that want to learn can't because of all the little a@@holes in the class, and teachers can't teach or maintain disclipline because of the same kids. Until schools become enviornments that are safe from distraction and fear for the good kids, out overall academic progress is going to go down and down. We need to keep the eggheads and their theories out of the schools, and go back to more basic things that seemed to work well for centuries, like disclipline, which is the key to becoming educated anyway. These states may not have hit upon the perfect program, but at least they are willing to try something, rather than the other 47 that just bemoan the problem.
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5-23-2011 @ 5:36PM
tiera said...I'm a student in high school and i don't think we should blame teachers, parents, or even the students cause we are all individuals. So with that being so we all learn different and if we're going to bring my father God into this, you would know that he made us unique and special in our own way, even if we have the same job or had/have the same classes together in school. God gave us special gifts(to every individuals) and we are to use, and I'm pretty sure blaming someone was a gift.
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5-23-2011 @ 5:26PM
rlg4675 said...There are a lot of factors in play here. One no child left behind is a total failure. Teaching to test scores is a total failure. High paid bureaucrates running the school districs are a problem. Tenure has let far too many bad teachers have job security.Like any job I believe the good workers or in this case teachers are worth their weight in gold but, the bad ones need to go. I also agree that parents need to be involved, but we do not have the same training as teachers do. I as a Fire/Paramedic do not expect non medical trained people to help me put an IV into a patent and administer IV drugs. I do help my children with their home work, but at times find myself lost because I was not taught the same things that they are. With the economy being what it is many of us are finding that we have to work more than one job to make ends meet. This affects the time we can spend with our children and their home work. I do not remember having the same amount of home work my children do now, untill I was in high school. One last thought ," The Greatest Generation" fought a world war, put a man on the moon and either cured or stopped some of the worst diseases ever known to man kind.... all with a 1920's to a 1940's education. Hmmm kinda makes you wonder.
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5-23-2011 @ 5:29PM
Jana said...Gifted with an IQ of 134, my daughter was bored in school, even with advanced classes usually reserved for college-bound seniors. She also possessed truant and manipulative behaviors of a deviant teenager. I worked diligently to raise my children properly and even had the means to put my career on hold for 10 years. NONE OF THAT MATTERED. Watch your child, but most importantly, be very aware of who their friends are. My daughter was a brief friend of our esteemed Mayor's daughter. Sounds nice right? Guess who bought,sold and used the drugs - and who got busted? Yes! My daughter spent her 9th grade year in Juvy and the Mayor's daughter? She passed onto 10th grade on 4 E's and 2 D's!!! . Unless the parents are sitting on their teenagers every moment of every day, even the best and the brightest can go astray. Still want to blame the parent? OK then, let's just put electronic tethers on all of them.
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5-23-2011 @ 5:31PM
Maureen said...Parents are the single most important influence on their child's academic performance. They are their child's best advocate. Public schools are mandated by law to accommodate all learners. No one is looking to "punish" anyone. Maybe a little motivation might induce more parental involvement. Teachers and support staff cannot do their jobs without parental support. The kids falling through the cracks are the ones whose parents are sending them to school for babysitting service and not an education. Get involved and see how high your kid can fly when he knows YOU CARE.
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5-23-2011 @ 5:31PM
Carm said...My parents did not care about my grades in school. I did. I wanted to excel. My parents pushed me out of college after two years. Insisted that I had to get married and pop out children because I was the girl. My grades were always higher than my brother's. In fact, several times I was the top student at various levels. Yet each time, my parents did not care. I went back to college on my own but
if I had the support from my parents, I could have gone much further.
The kid needs to understand what an education can do for him/her and he/she must be willing to fight for it.
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