San Francisco: A Town Without Kiddies?
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San Francisco, home to the Golden Gate Bridge, is the second priciest city in the country. Credit: Getty Images
Census figures show the city has 5,278 fewer children than it did in 2000. That's because San Francisco -- next to New York City -- is the second priciest city in the country in terms of housing and living expenses.
The San Francisco Chronicle reports that the high cost of living is forcing middle-class families with children to live elsewhere. According to the paper, though, some local hipsters are happy to see them go.
Margaret Brodkin, the former of head of the Department of Children, Youth and Their Families tells the Chronicle that they fail to see the big picture. She calls the census figures "beyond depressing."
"A city is better off when it has families," she tells the Chronicle. "I worry because one of the things that happens is that the family population becomes increasingly polarized. We have very poor families and better-off families, and that isn't good for any community."
San Francisco risks losing more than its children, the Chronicle reports. Middle-class professionals such as police officers, firefighters and teachers may also find the city too expensive to live. In a major crisis, you don't want to wait for extra emergency personnel to commute to work.
But let's not get melodramatic here.
"It's not like there aren't any children in San Francisco," Hans Johnson, a demographer at the Public Policy Institute of California, tells the newspaper. "It's not some sort of Orwellian or 'Blade Runner' future that we're talking about, but it certainly is different than other big cities in the country."
The city actually has 3,000 more children under 5 than it did 10 years ago. The problem is that it lost more than 8,000 kids older than 5.
Only 13.4 percent of the city's 805,235 residents are younger than 18 -- one of the smallest percentages of any city in the country.
California Lt. Gov. Gavin Newsom tried to make San Francisco family-friendly when he was mayor from 2004 to 2011 with universal preschool, universal after-school programs, universal health care, revitalized parks and libraries and a working family tax credit.
"I don't think there's a city in America that can lay claim to half those initiatives," Newsom tells the Chronicle. "Without them, I think the city would be struggling much more."
Still, he admits, schools are a problem.
"It's not that we don't have outstanding schools. We do. It's just that we don't have enough of them," he tells the Chronicle.
Chelsea Boilard, the family policy coordinator for Coleman Advocates for Children and Youth, tells the Chronicle the numbers are troubling. "Some might call it the Manhattanization of San Francisco, that it isn't able to support a thriving, working-class community," she says.
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ReaderComments (Page 1 of 5)
6-21-2011 @ 11:38AM
Pat said...You think it might have something to do with having a large percentage of gay men and women? Duhhh
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6-27-2011 @ 8:00AM
Emmaly said...I buy almost everything except food and clothing from online auctions. Most people aren't aware of the almost unbelievable deals that they can get from online auction sites.
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all legit.
How they can sell gift cards, laptops, cameras, and all kinds of goodies that we all want for 50-90% off, I don't know. I do know that I bought my son an iPad there for less than $100 and my husband a $250 Loews gift cards for $48. Why would I even think about shopping anyplace else?
6-21-2011 @ 3:23PM
Ken Howes said...You just said that the emperor has no clothes--then again, he probably lives in San Francisco.
6-21-2011 @ 5:04PM
Linda said...Pat, lol I agree. San Francisco cultural corruption is running people out. It's not exactly family friendly.
6-21-2011 @ 5:35PM
Brenda said...Gay people adopt kid's all the time, I don't think that has anything to do with it. They also for the most part have seccessful carears, and lots of money. I think the issue is the cost.
6-21-2011 @ 6:20PM
IRISH said...How do you know if the population of San Francisco is happy?
6-21-2011 @ 6:31PM
360Dunk said...Actually, San Francisco is only 15% gay, not much more than Atlanta, Seattle, Boston, and Minneapolis, all of which are pushing 13%.
Characterizing San Francisco as mostly gay is a foolish statement. The overwhelming majority of San Franciscans, myself included, are straight.
6-21-2011 @ 8:12PM
Jane said...This is for joseedpolrdf is an idiot. The idiotic remarks like his make these comment boards a joke.
6-21-2011 @ 8:25PM
Joanne said...That is either ignorant, or a lie. I tend to think you are a liar joseedpolridf@aol.com, and an anti-Semite. You are just full of hate. The vast majority of pedophiles are white men. Being gay is equally spread across the whole of society. Being born gay is like being born straight.
6-21-2011 @ 12:48PM
Mike Lanza said...The central problem is that there is no such thing as a neighborhood public school in SF. The effort to integrate and equalize schools has ripped neighborhoods apart, driven families away, and ultimately destroyed the very schools that this effort was aimed at supporting. Nice job, SF...
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6-21-2011 @ 1:48PM
leslie said...8,000 children leaving over the age of 5? directly related to the fact that you cannot get the elementary school that you want or live nearby. when parents are forced to accept a school that is farther away than is convenient in the mornings or one that they consider is below standards for education or safety, then they'll move from the city. i pay parochial tuition for my kids to go to school elsewhere because the public school system made sending my kids to their schools untennable for our family's work schedules. yet i still pay a lot in property taxes. want the kids to stay? fix the school assignment problem......
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6-21-2011 @ 7:42PM
baz'smom said...but Leslie.. ur kids are getting a better education!
6-23-2011 @ 7:58PM
Dan Harrington said...Schools have been so politicized, it is true. Perhaps some new faces recently elected will stem the tide on the School Board, and we can concentrate more on the schools themselves. I encourage you to remember that a few parents can make a huge difference in the daily lives of a school community, and ten more involved can make a dramatic impact in the goings on at that school...we most need to show our children that we care about them, and their teachers and administrators, instead of blaming them for 100% of the education anguish. If we realize that schools are ALL of OUR responsibility, then we don't have to go around looking for the best school; we can make our neighborhood school the "best school."
6-21-2011 @ 2:16PM
nuzzy said...What do you expect from a city that promotes alternative lifestyles, behavior contrary to what fosters child development and an out of this world Liberal philosophy. Any rational person would not want to raise children in Frisco. It is what it is! Can't explain the reality away. Nice job Nancy adn crew. Sad, it was a great city at one time long ago.
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6-21-2011 @ 4:01PM
max2u2 said...Hateful and bigoted comment nuzzy. Id rather have kids growing up there than in some asbackwards Republican/ hater community!
6-21-2011 @ 5:03PM
isisreptiles said...It's better for kids to grow up in a liberal and tolerant community which embraces different kinds of people living different kinds of lives. Much better than some uber-conservative backwards-thinking community with a "my way or the highway" mentality.
6-21-2011 @ 5:32PM
LOU said...It's easy to see why SF, however beautiful, is losing it's children when they become school age. Just read the previous comments with the attitude that the rest of the country is "backword's". Hubris of the ignorant has no bounds.
6-21-2011 @ 8:10PM
ebony said...I was born and raised in SF, and while it is a very tolerant and gay friendly city, homosexuality is not shoved down anyone's throat. Children are exposed to it more on television then in the streets. People who don't live here have warped ideas of what goes on. I moved away because as a mother of 2 children it was not affordable. I paid more for daycare than I did for rent. The schools are not that bad compared to some other counties.
6-21-2011 @ 8:23PM
bud said...I am not surprised at the response you getting. In 1969 I was in the Haight. A few years ago when I was there the ghetto turned into a worse ghetto. As far as schools California schools are bad enough without the SF atmosphere. Since I believe in old fashion moral values I would never let a child of mine live or be schooled in SF county. LIke the race card those who fear reality will play the BIGGOT CARD. Let them, it changes nothing.
6-21-2011 @ 8:25PM
Joanne said...The problem is that everyone wants to live here, so the cost of housing goes up. Lots are small, and many people want a large lot so they can have a pool and a yard where kids can run around and play. We are a city where half the City is apartments, where everyone shares one back yard. We have lots of parks with playground equipment and tennis and basketball courts, but people still like to raise their kids in the burbs, where it is sunny in the summer. We get lots of fog in the summer in our burbs on the West side, and the weather isn't very good in the winter. People have more alternatives now than they used to have. Since the housing crash, people who can afford to buy, can afford to buy outside SF, because our housing market didn't lose much. You can go from a 25 x 100 foot lot to a 50 x 150 foot lot and afford the payments. Lots of people live in SF, and work in the East Bay across the Bay Bridge, or down the Peninsula, even as far as San Jose, Silicon Valley, 50 miles away. You can get there by train if you want, and there are stops along the way.
San Francisco is a beautiful, civil place to live. There are lots of things for everyone to do. Children who were not raised here, can't wait to move here as soon as they are old enough to make that choice.